Is Obama's candidacy constitutional?

[gocolts 300]

Actually, they ARE the embodiment of Conservativism and the GOP. Without a check of the Dem party, this is what your belief structure looks like in policy action. Sorry your belief structure is a resounding failure.

 

GWB positions on nearly every imaginable topic are the anti-thesis of the belief structure of liberalism.

You seem to know about as much about conservatives as you did about Memorial day before everyone educated you. My belief structure of conservatism would do greta if a conservative was to ever get in there. Why do you think GWB's approval ratings are so bad??? Do you think they only ask liberals??? Bush and McCain are not even close to conservatives. About the only thing conservative Bush did was SCOTUS appointments. Billions for AIDS in Africa is not being a conservative. NCLB is not conservative. Prescription drug plan Bush got was not conservative. Spending money like a drunken liberal is not conservative. Amnesty for illegal aliens is not conservative. Do you get the picture yet. Hell, Bush was even thrilled when the democrats took over because he thought he was going to get his amnesty BS pushed through.

 

I thought you were captain obvious, maybe it should be captain clueless.

[Snoopy1 0]

I enjoy sleeping with black guys. No problems with that. No problems voting for one I like either, like Condi.

I just think this one isn't qualified enough, and only speaks in broad terms, without any real substance. And that I do not trust.

 

Of course I also like them to be constitutionally able to do the job.

 

 

I like this "reason" that I've been hearing more and more of...specially since the Kerry-Bush election, as if President Bush when campaigning either time didn't speak in broad terms...yeah, he was just sooooooo full of specifics when stumping---just a new popular 'buzz smear' tactic developed by the Roves of the right.

[itsjjw 0]

I like this "reason" that I've been hearing more and more of...specially since the Kerry-Bush election, as if President Bush when campaigning either time didn't speak in broad terms...yeah, he was just sooooooo full of specifics when stumping...

I didn't know that Bush was running again?

[gocolts 300]

I didn't know that Bush was running again?

Everything has to always go back to Bush for the liberals.

[itsjjw 0]

Everything has to always go back to Bush for the liberals.

I plan on either a write-in vote for Hillary or voting 3rd party this year.

[gocolts 300]

I plan on either a write-in vote for Hillary or voting 3rd party this year.

As a conservative, I feel completely left out with no one to vote for. I can't vote for either of the two clowns running for R and D at this point so I will probably do something similar. It is unbelievable that the last person of each party that I would want both got their parties nomination.

 

It is a good indicator, unless you are a total dumbass like KD, that McCain is pretty liberal since a lot of liberals think McCain will be acceptable as POTUS. I have read lots of liberals from this forarm and FBG's say they are fine with the two choices they have this year. Most still have BO's balls in their mouths, but plenty have stated that they feel good about both candidates this year.

[itsjjw 0]

As a conservative, I feel completely left out with no one to vote for. I can't vote for either of the two clowns running for R and D at this point so I will probably do something similar. It is unbelievable that the last person of each party that I would want both got their parties nomination.

 

It is a good indicator, unless you are a total dumbass like KD, that McCain is pretty liberal since a lot of liberals think McCain will be acceptable as POTUS. I have read lots of liberals from this forarm and FBG's say they are fine with the two choices they have this year. Most still have BO's balls in their mouths, but plenty have stated that they feel good about both candidates this year.

 

How about voting for Barr?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I plan on either a write-in vote for Hillary or voting 3rd party this year.

 

Certainly, itsjjw's "political knowledge" knows no bounds. All the people in the world could not fill it's expansive confines. If you don't believe me, just ask the untold numbers who have intimate knowledge of it. Anyone who has experienced it will tell you that it was like viewing the edge of an endless abyss. Many have said that they were afraid of falling into its depths, never to return. Some believe that such a person would be eaten by one of the many of the dark creatures that lurk within it's slippery walls.

 

I, for one, will engage it no more, for I do not wish to succumb to one of the many ills that that can result.

[gocolts 300]

How about voting for Barr?

That is a possibility for me. His ACLU connection raises some concerns for me, but it isn't anything near as bad as the concerns I have about Obama and McCain at this point.

[itsjjw 0]

Certainly, itsjjw's "political knowledge" knows no bounds. All the people in the world could not fill it's expansive confines. If you don't believe me, just ask the untold numbers who have intimate knowledge of it. Anyone who has experienced it will tell you that it was like viewing the edge of an endless abyss. Many have said that they were afraid of falling into its depths, never to return. Some believe that such a person would be eaten by one of the many of the dark creatures that lurk within it's slippery walls.

 

I, for one, will engage it no more, for I do not wish to succumb to one of the many ills that that can result.

:yawn:

[itsjjw 0]

That is a possibility for me. His ACLU connection raises some concerns for me, but it isn't anything near as bad as the concerns I have about Obama and McCain at this point.

That is a rather contradictory connection. I wasn't aware of that. Although I do like the ACLU for the most part.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

:yawn:

 

Are you sure you were yawning, or did you just reflexively open up your yapper to swallow a cack?

[itsjjw 0]

Are you sure you were yawning, or did you just reflexively open up your yapper to swallow a cack?

:yawn: yet another show of intellect. :yawn:

[Korben Dallas 0]

Apologize for what? I never said that he didn't have one. I merely questioned why he wasn't producing it.

 

Personally I hope the one you posted is legit; I'd hate to see either side lose the choice of their voters based on a technicality.

 

Jerry, my bad, I really don't mean for you to apologize. I'm waiting for Colts to. Of course he won't, he'll just move on to the next dishonest slander...

 

It's legit and here's a future hint. It's important to ask for something before you make up a lie that its being withheld.

 

It is legit. Provided by the Obama campaign. And if you think the ABC, CBS, or NBC has closer connections to the Obama campaign than Kos. They could only dream of his market share on politics.

And Fox..thats funny

[Korben Dallas 0]

As a conservative, I feel completely left out with no one to vote for. I can't vote for either of the two clowns running for R and D at this point so I will probably do something similar. It is unbelievable that the last person of each party that I would want both got their parties nomination.

 

It is a good indicator, unless you are a total dumbass like KD, that McCain is pretty liberal since a lot of liberals think McCain will be acceptable as POTUS. I have read lots of liberals from this forarm and FBG's say they are fine with the two choices they have this year. Most still have BO's balls in their mouths, but plenty have stated that they feel good about both candidates this year.

 

 

Do you just make everything up? You've been caught spreading a lie here.

 

Instead you move on to McCain is a liberal. Just because he sucks, doesn't mean you get to pretend he's not your guy.

 

And find me a single self respecting liberal or democrat that follows poltics at all that thinks McCain isn't a dirty POS. I'll be waiting.

[itsjjw 0]

Jerry, my bad, I really don't mean for you to apologize. I'm waiting for Colts to. Of course he won't, he'll just move on to the next dishonest slander...

 

It's legit and here's a future hint. It's important to ask for something before you make up a lie that its being withheld.

 

It is legit. Provided by the Obama campaign. And if you think the ABC, CBS, or NBC has closer connections to the Obama campaign than Kos. They could only dream of his market share on politics.

And Fox..thats funny

But how does that relate to his mother's age at the time he was born?

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

But how does that relate to his mother's age at the time he was born?

 

Can you read?

[itsjjw 0]

Can you read?

Barely. I went to school in NY.

 

Her age is not on the BC

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Can you read?

 

She may not be able to read, but she can sure write her number on bathroom stalls!

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Barely. I went to school in NY.

 

Her age is not on the BC

 

As stated, it does not focking matter how old she was. The blogger used an uncited "law" to prove his point, but it was a red herring. I gave you the link to his "source" and showed that there is nothing in there that matters about her age at the time.

[gocolts 300]

Do you just make everything up? You've been caught spreading a lie here.

 

Instead you move on to McCain is a liberal. Just because he sucks, doesn't mean you get to pretend he's not your guy.

 

And find me a single self respecting liberal or democrat that follows poltics at all that thinks McCain isn't a dirty POS. I'll be waiting.

You can't even follow simple threads and conversations, can you. Or are just excited to try for a chest pounding moment that you act like I wrote this article or was saying this proves he is not a citizen. Whichever is the case, I am not spreading a lie unless you can show me where I said this was all a done deal and he was not eligible.

 

I found an interesting story and posted it to get some thoughts. I never said anything like "look, Obama isn't a US citizen!" Like JK, I was curious as to why he wouldn't nip this in the bud pretty quick, which I stated in my very first post. You come in here with your "How dare you focking question ANYTHING about the messiah Barrack Obama." I just focking asked.

 

You are the one who started in with the dumbazz comment that GWB and McCain are a perfect example of a republican. They are not. I gave you specifics as well. I am not moving on to anything. I was trying to explain why GWB was not what you said.

 

I have been against McCain for POTUS even before he started this run. I was against him even in his other runs for POTUS. He votes the wrong way to often. He is not my guy. I even voted for focking Hillary Clinton in May, not McCain. So you just keep on going with your whatever the fock you call this that you are doing.

 

So what do you do now, call me a racist??

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

You can't even follow simple threads and conversations, can you. Or are just excited to try for a chest pounding moment that you act like I wrote this article or was saying this proves he is not a citizen. Whichever is the case, I am not spreading a lie unless you can show me where I said this was all a done deal and he was not eligible.

 

I found an interesting story and posted it to get some thoughts. I never said anything like "look, Obama isn't a US citizen!" Like JK, I was curious as to why he wouldn't nip this in the bud pretty quick, which I stated in my very first post. You come in here with your "How dare you focking question ANYTHING about the messiah Barrack Obama." I just focking asked.

 

You are the one who started in with the dumbazz comment that GWB and McCain are a perfect example of a republican. They are not. I gave you specifics as well. I am not moving on to anything. I was trying to explain why GWB was not what you said.

 

I have been against McCain for POTUS even before he started this run. I was against him even in his other runs for POTUS. He votes the wrong way to often. He is not my guy. I even voted for focking Hillary Clinton in May, not McCain. So you just keep on going with your whatever the fock you call this that you are doing.

 

So what do you do now, call me a racist??

 

Racist!

[gocolts 300]

 

Racist!

[Korben Dallas 0]

You seem to know about as much about conservatives as you did about Memorial day before everyone educated you. My belief structure of conservatism would do greta if a conservative was to ever get in there. Why do you think GWB's approval ratings are so bad??? Do you think they only ask liberals??? Bush and McCain are not even close to conservatives. About the only thing conservative Bush did was SCOTUS appointments. Billions for AIDS in Africa is not being a conservative. NCLB is not conservative. Prescription drug plan Bush got was not conservative. Spending money like a drunken liberal is not conservative. Amnesty for illegal aliens is not conservative. Do you get the picture yet. Hell, Bush was even thrilled when the democrats took over because he thought he was going to get his amnesty BS pushed through.

 

I thought you were captain obvious, maybe it should be captain clueless.

 

 

The difference between me and you is this. I readily admitted as quickly as possible that I was incorrect on Memorial Day. I would argue that my mistake was rooted in good intentions and that including more people in the celebration of their service was not harmful. You on the otherhand refuse to ever admit when you wrong. See this thread and the Obama tape thread and the Obama is Muslim, and the Obama family are terrorists, and on and on. All were wrong. But you won't come back and admit it, you won't think for even a moment to yourself, "Maybe my whole philosophy on politics is based on lies and pettiness"

 

I do know why Bush's approval rating are bad. Because he's a corrupt dirtbag and people have now seen him and conservativism in action and do not like it.

 

Of course Bush and McCain are conservatives! You don't get to throw them out of their own party and movement, its their movement, you just vote for it. Has it ever occurred to you that MAYBE YOU AREN'T. The politicians that represent the movement are the embodiment of the movement. From Newt, to Rush to GW to Cheney to Haskert to Frist. From 2000 until 2006, every level of government was governed by the conservative experiment. Both executive and legislative government, including a massive purge of most qualified civil servants in nearly every major department down to the state level were replaced by "true conservatives". Many would argue 94 would be the correct start.

 

This is what conservative government looks like. Morally bankrupt, corrupt and uncapable of doing anything but damage to the people and the country.

 

This is what conservatism looks like when it moves beyond foolish imagination and actually has to perform the functions of the state. Because morons like you believe that government sucks, when you get to run it, you lie, cheat, rob and corrupt because, "Hey,that's what government does!" and boy has that been proven over and over.

 

As for your examples….

Billions for AIDS in Africa is not being a conservative. - True, but this was a thimble in the ass of humanitarian effort. This is a strawman. We spend more in 4 days in Iraq than our total giving.

 

NCLB is not conservative. - You must be on crack. It's exactly conservative. Creating an multi-billion dollar unfunded mandate to collapse the public school system, using completely false statistics made up by a bunch of corrupt Texas politicians , while taking millions of dollars of lobbying money from private learning centers? That is conservativism at its best.

 

Prescription drug plan Bush got was not conservative - It absolutely was a perfect example of conservativism. Take a potentially worthwhile public project and turn it into a financial bonanza for your pharm friends while screwing over the very people you hoped to help.

 

Spending money like a drunken liberal is not conservative. But it is Colts, Cons ALWAYS spend like crazy. Reagan -check, Bush I-check, Bush II and congress- check. The difference is that they just don't pay for it. They're like little valley girls with credit cards. The difference is never in the spending, its that liberals are fiscally responsible, and conservatives don't give a f$%k because they are rich and don't care about the impact to the middle class.

 

Amnesty for illegal aliens is not conservative - I only sort of agree. First, I don't remember this happening, except when Reagan did it. Wait, what? The only group to propose amnesty were the arch-hero of conservatives and when conservatives controlled the entire governement ? Hmmm….did it ever occur to you that they are just pulling your leg so you'll vote for them, much like the gay marriage and bible in schools crap that just never seems to get into the legislation?

Having cheap labor is ALWAYS in the conservatives interest. Just not in the racists interest? Hmmmmm….Which one are you colts?

 

I notice that you left out -criminal corruption, mountain top mining, environmental destruction, abstinence education, fascist civil rights abandonment, agenda based war, croynism appointments, fiscal mismanagement, encouragement of deregulation which led to the mortgage crisis and demolishion of the american safety net. All also bastions of the conservative movement. This is what you wanted and now you have it.

 

I think your real problem is that you don't like that the general public has seen what conservatives stand for and have said, "wait, these people suck."

 

I get the picture Colts and I think I'm tired of looking at it. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are an unemployed, poor person that votes against his interests in the dream that they'll be rich and be rewarded for being evil…good plan.

[footballpowers 0]

You can't even follow simple threads and conversations, can you. Or are just excited to try for a chest pounding moment that you act like I wrote this article or was saying this proves he is not a citizen. Whichever is the case, I am not spreading a lie unless you can show me where I said this was all a done deal and he was not eligible.

 

I found an interesting story and posted it to get some thoughts. I never said anything like "look, Obama isn't a US citizen!" Like JK, I was curious as to why he wouldn't nip this in the bud pretty quick, which I stated in my very first post. You come in here with your "How dare you focking question ANYTHING about the messiah Barrack Obama." I just focking asked.

 

You are the one who started in with the dumbazz comment that GWB and McCain are a perfect example of a republican. They are not. I gave you specifics as well. I am not moving on to anything. I was trying to explain why GWB was not what you said.

 

I have been against McCain for POTUS even before he started this run. I was against him even in his other runs for POTUS. He votes the wrong way to often. He is not my guy. I even voted for focking Hillary Clinton in May, not McCain. So you just keep on going with your whatever the fock you call this that you are doing.

 

So what do you do now, call me a racist??

 

I'll put my money on you being liked about as much in real life as you are here

[Korben Dallas 0]

You can't even follow simple threads and conversations, can you. Or are just excited to try for a chest pounding moment that you act like I wrote this article or was saying this proves he is not a citizen. Whichever is the case, I am not spreading a lie unless you can show me where I said this was all a done deal and he was not eligible.

 

I found an interesting story and posted it to get some thoughts. I never said anything like "look, Obama isn't a US citizen!" Like JK, I was curious as to why he wouldn't nip this in the bud pretty quick, which I stated in my very first post. You come in here with your "How dare you focking question ANYTHING about the messiah Barrack Obama." I just focking asked.

 

You are the one who started in with the dumbazz comment that GWB and McCain are a perfect example of a republican. They are not. I gave you specifics as well. I am not moving on to anything. I was trying to explain why GWB was not what you said.

 

I have been against McCain for POTUS even before he started this run. I was against him even in his other runs for POTUS. He votes the wrong way to often. He is not my guy. I even voted for focking Hillary Clinton in May, not McCain. So you just keep on going with your whatever the fock you call this that you are doing.

 

So what do you do now, call me a racist??

 

Colts- You are without a doubt a racist. That's not news

[gocolts 300]

The difference between me and you is this. I readily admitted as quickly as possible that I was incorrect on Memorial Day. I would argue that my mistake was rooted in good intentions and that including more people in the celebration of their service was not harmful. You on the otherhand refuse to ever admit when you wrong. See this thread and the Obama tape thread and the Obama is Muslim, and the Obama family are terrorists, and on and on. All were wrong. But you won't come back and admit it, you won't think for even a moment to yourself, "Maybe my whole philosophy on politics is based on lies and pettiness"

 

I do know why Bush's approval rating are bad. Because he's a corrupt dirtbag and people have now seen him and conservativism in action and do not like it.

 

Of course Bush and McCain are conservatives! You don't get to throw them out of their own party and movement, its their movement, you just vote for it. Has it ever occurred to you that MAYBE YOU AREN'T. The politicians that represent the movement are the embodiment of the movement. From Newt, to Rush to GW to Cheney to Haskert to Frist. From 2000 until 2006, every level of government was governed by the conservative experiment. Both executive and legislative government, including a massive purge of most qualified civil servants in nearly every major department down to the state level were replaced by "true conservatives". Many would argue 94 would be the correct start.

 

This is what conservative government looks like. Morally bankrupt, corrupt and uncapable of doing anything but damage to the people and the country.

 

This is what conservatism looks like when it moves beyond foolish imagination and actually has to perform the functions of the state. Because morons like you believe that government sucks, when you get to run it, you lie, cheat, rob and corrupt because, "Hey,that's what government does!" and boy has that been proven over and over.

 

As for your examples….

Billions for AIDS in Africa is not being a conservative. - True, but this was a thimble in the ass of humanitarian effort. This is a strawman. We spend more in 4 days in Iraq than our total giving.

 

NCLB is not conservative. - You must be on crack. It's exactly conservative. Creating an multi-billion dollar unfunded mandate to collapse the public school system, using completely false statistics made up by a bunch of corrupt Texas politicians , while taking millions of dollars of lobbying money from private learning centers? That is conservativism at its best.

 

Prescription drug plan Bush got was not conservative - It absolutely was a perfect example of conservativism. Take a potentially worthwhile public project and turn it into a financial bonanza for your pharm friends while screwing over the very people you hoped to help.

 

Spending money like a drunken liberal is not conservative. But it is Colts, Cons ALWAYS spend like crazy. Reagan -check, Bush I-check, Bush II and congress- check. The difference is that they just don't pay for it. They're like little valley girls with credit cards. The difference is never in the spending, its that liberals are fiscally responsible, and conservatives don't give a f$%k because they are rich and don't care about the impact to the middle class.

 

Amnesty for illegal aliens is not conservative - I only sort of agree. First, I don't remember this happening, except when Reagan did it. Wait, what? The only group to propose amnesty were the arch-hero of conservatives and when conservatives controlled the entire governement ? Hmmm….did it ever occur to you that they are just pulling your leg so you'll vote for them, much like the gay marriage and bible in schools crap that just never seems to get into the legislation?

Having cheap labor is ALWAYS in the conservatives interest. Just not in the racists interest? Hmmmmm….Which one are you colts?

 

I notice that you left out -criminal corruption, mountain top mining, environmental destruction, abstinence education, fascist civil rights abandonment, agenda based war, croynism appointments, fiscal mismanagement, encouragement of deregulation which led to the mortgage crisis and demolishion of the american safety net. All also bastions of the conservative movement. This is what you wanted and now you have it.

 

I think your real problem is that you don't like that the general public has seen what conservatives stand for and have said, "wait, these people suck."

 

I get the picture Colts and I think I'm tired of looking at it. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are an unemployed, poor person that votes against his interests in the dream that they'll be rich and be rewarded for being evil…good plan.

First off, you didn't readily admit to that in the Memorial day thread. You even try to "Justify" yourself for being wrong in this very post with your "I would argue that my mistake was rooted in good intentions......." You did admit you were wrong, but not how you describe it as "Readily admitted" it. You had to through in a "But." Ahh, here it is:

 

 

I'm more than willing to accept I'm wrong about the traditional purpose of Memorial Day, however, I refuse to change my ideology of what I think its about.

 

I have admitted I was wrong before and it isn't a big deal to me. You can think that all you want and I won't lose any sleep because of it. Thanks for taking the time to point out so well that you have no clue what conservatism is all about with the rest of your post. I could not have asked for a better demonstration of your lack of knowledge of what conservatives believe than what you provided.

[kpbuckeye 3]

seriously KD, you have no focking clue what a conservative is.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative

 

You like to throw it out there like you know something but have not a focking clue. Especially if you think GWB is one.

There are may aspects to conservatives, social, economic, etc.

It pretty much shows what a hack that you really are because you so easily label someone.

Myself, I have conservative views, my social views are far from conservative bc I don't like big brother legislating morals I am very liberial in that aspect. It could be argued that a true conservative feels the same way but some conservative thinking folks believe that keeping old traditions is important. Point being, a conservative person's views cannot be put into black and white as you have done, its always shades just like that of being liberal. I don't know what your obsession is with putting labels on people instead of ideas and thought but whatever. If anything it makes you look like a racist if you are going to apply labels to everyone. why not think for yourself? Do a little reading and figure out what you are pointing fingers about in the first place.

[Me_2006 14]

You guys are STILL talking about this?

 

 

have we gotten to the Democrats making fun of GoColts for being disabled/not working yet?

has Patsfatboy made anymore sensible, fair posts?

has RP showed up to say the word Hussein as many times as possible?

Anyone been called a racist yet?

has the word "messiah" been used since my last post?

 

 

 

 

...seriously guys. Stop saying the same old crap in different threads. And grow the fock up. Please.

[footballpowers 0]

You guys are STILL talking about this?

have we gotten to the Democrats making fun of GoColts for being disabled/not working yet?

has Patsfatboy made anymore sensible, fair posts?

has RP showed up to say the word Hussein as many times as possible?

Anyone been called a racist yet?

has the word "messiah" been used since my last post?

...seriously guys. Stop saying the same old crap in different threads. And grow the fock up. Please.

 

But it's so easy......and fun!!!!

[gocolts 300]

You guys are STILL talking about this?

have we gotten to the Democrats making fun of GoColts for being disabled/not working yet?

has Patsfatboy made anymore sensible, fair posts?

has RP showed up to say the word Hussein as many times as possible?

Anyone been called a racist yet?

has the word "messiah" been used since my last post?

...seriously guys. Stop saying the same old crap in different threads. And grow the fock up. Please.

Ya, I just wanted to respond to KD. Put a check by all the above for what has been done.