VaTerp 0 Posted September 6, 2008 I drafted MJD in the 2nd and really like him for the long haul but Im thinking of benching him this week in favor of Ricky or Chris Johnson at my flex spot. SJax and Turner are getting the nod at RB this week. (PPR League and Yes, I know you dont care) Here's my thinking. Jacksonville is missing their starting center, has some other issues on the O-line, and have said themselves that they are out of sync right now. Tenn may ahve the best run D in the league when Haynesworth is healthy and motivated both of which he is right now. And MJD has gotten off to slow starts in each of his first 2 seasons. Last year week 1 against Tenn he had only 10 total touches for 60 yards and no scores. His good game against the Titans came when Haynesworth was out. So even though this is a thinly veiled WSIS thread Im really just interested in thoughts on MJD. Are other owners starting him with confidence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleaver08 0 Posted September 6, 2008 I had him last year as a #2 and ended up starting Fargas for the last half of the season in his place, because he was too inconsistent. I hope you do not end up another disgruntled MJD owner. In the week 1 scenario against TEN, I would definitely start Ricky instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryChinaski 1 Posted September 6, 2008 I'm starting him as a RB2, but I'm not overly-confident in doing so. I am very high on him this season, as I think this will finally be the year that he leaves Fred Taylor behind. But with that said, if someone had a decent matchup other than MJD - I would definitely understand. But, in your scenario, I think I would still play MJD. SJax and Turner both have excellent matchups, you probably won't need a super-high game to pull in the victory. So in my mind, that would rule out Chris Johnson and Ricky Williams - just because you don't know what you would be getting. With MJD, you atleast know that he's going to get a good bit of touches, and is probably pretty much guaranteed 60/70 yards - whereas Johnson and Williams could possibly out-perform them, I believe their downside to be much lower. As for me, he will be in my starting lineup. But I'll also have Lynch/Jacobs/CalvinJohnson/ to help secure the win. I'm counting on MJD to show up and have a decent game, but I don't think I will need him to dominate, to pull in a victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zmanzzzz 1 Posted September 6, 2008 you need a little help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,925 Posted September 6, 2008 id play ricky. he has a history of lighting up my Jets rush defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted September 6, 2008 Over your other two choices.....hell yeah I am playing him over Ricky and Perry in one league. There is this crazy theory out there called start your studs.....and border line studs, the latter is where MJD is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 6, 2008 I drafted MJD in the 2nd and really like him for the long haul but Im thinking of benching him this week in favor of Ricky or Chris Johnson at my flex spot. SJax and Turner are getting the nod at RB this week. (PPR League and Yes, I know you dont care) Here's my thinking. Jacksonville is missing their starting center, has some other issues on the O-line, and have said themselves that they are out of sync right now. Tenn may ahve the best run D in the league when Haynesworth is healthy and motivated both of which he is right now. And MJD has gotten off to slow starts in each of his first 2 seasons. Last year week 1 against Tenn he had only 10 total touches for 60 yards and no scores. His good game against the Titans came when Haynesworth was out. So even though this is a thinly veiled WSIS thread Im really just interested in thoughts on MJD. Are other owners starting him with confidence? Where do you get all of this information about Jacksonville? I was under the impression that Jax may be missing one lineman but haven't heard anything about "other issues" for that OL. Sure there's Collier but he's a backup anyway. And where have you heard them state their "out of sync"? I have a hard time sitting MJD because he's so explosive. He can take it to the house on any play which leads me to starting him over Lendale who is.....well......not explosive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted September 6, 2008 1) To zman, save it on the lil help stuff. I admitted its a thinly veiled WSIS. But so is a lot of stuff on here. I really just wanted some discussion on MJD. Everyone else seemed to get that. 2) Whitewonder, the Jets matchup is the major reason for considering Ricky. 3) HenryC brings up an interesting point. MJD prolly is the safest choice and as much as Id like to think I dont need a big game out of him my opponent has a pretty good team with good matchups as well and I think EVERY point will count this week. 4) Gocolts, I KNEW somebody would hit me with the never bench your studs theory. I agree with that to an extent but I ALWAYS look at matchups and sitations. And MJD is not a STUD yet. I think his value will come over the course of the season but I cant give him stud status right now. Thanks for the replies. Think Im leaning toward Ricky right now but gonna do some more research and prolly wont decide until Sunday morning. Anyone else have any info on the Jax O-line or any other thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted September 6, 2008 I don't draft guys in the 2nd round I'm afraid to start. I have Jones-Drew in 3 leagues and YES I am rolling him out in all 3!! With confidence!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryChinaski 1 Posted September 6, 2008 VAterp - If you hear anything else about MJD/Jax - try to post back into the thread, as I'm in a similar situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt_Russia 0 Posted September 6, 2008 You drafted him in the 2nd round; there was obviously something you liked about him. It's week 1. Play him. If you drafted him expecting 80-100 total yards and a TD every week, you're going to be sorely disappointed. He's a guy that will get you a handful of points for 3 weeks and explode on the 4th week. If you spend all season swapping him in and out of your line-up, you're going to miss his big weeks. Miss his big weeks, and you just wasted your 2nd round pick. Pair him with a consistent scorer at RB1 and put him in your line-up and leave him there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravenwood 1 Posted September 6, 2008 The TD's are what makes MJD a good play and even with 15 carries, chances are he gets one. Plus you have a stud RB to absorb some of the blow if he has a bad game. You've got to start at top 15 RB and definitely not Chris Johnson. I drafted MJD in the 2nd and really like him for the long haul but Im thinking of benching him this week in favor of Ricky or Chris Johnson at my flex spot. SJax and Turner are getting the nod at RB this week. (PPR League and Yes, I know you dont care) Here's my thinking. Jacksonville is missing their starting center, has some other issues on the O-line, and have said themselves that they are out of sync right now. Tenn may ahve the best run D in the league when Haynesworth is healthy and motivated both of which he is right now. And MJD has gotten off to slow starts in each of his first 2 seasons. Last year week 1 against Tenn he had only 10 total touches for 60 yards and no scores. His good game against the Titans came when Haynesworth was out. So even though this is a thinly veiled WSIS thread Im really just interested in thoughts on MJD. Are other owners starting him with confidence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted September 6, 2008 1) To zman, save it on the lil help stuff. I admitted its a thinly veiled WSIS. But so is a lot of stuff on here. I really just wanted some discussion on MJD. Everyone else seemed to get that. 2) Whitewonder, the Jets matchup is the major reason for considering Ricky. 3) HenryC brings up an interesting point. MJD prolly is the safest choice and as much as Id like to think I dont need a big game out of him my opponent has a pretty good team with good matchups as well and I think EVERY point will count this week. 4) Gocolts, I KNEW somebody would hit me with the never bench your studs theory. I agree with that to an extent but I ALWAYS look at matchups and sitations. And MJD is not a STUD yet. I think his value will come over the course of the season but I cant give him stud status right now. Thanks for the replies. Think Im leaning toward Ricky right now but gonna do some more research and prolly wont decide until Sunday morning. Anyone else have any info on the Jax O-line or any other thoughts? MJD is what I consider a borderline stud. So I agree he is not "Stud" status just yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Where do you get all of this information about Jacksonville? I was under the impression that Jax may be missing one lineman but haven't heard anything about "other issues" for that OL. Sure there's Collier but he's a backup anyway. And where have you heard them state their "out of sync"? I have a hard time sitting MJD because he's so explosive. He can take it to the house on any play which leads me to starting him over Lendale who is.....well......not explosive. Couldnt find it with a quick search but I know I read that they have concerns about their O-line play right now. Meester, the center is out for a few weeks and I think they have shuffled some guards around. There was even a thread on here about how this site had lowered its projections on MJD and offensive line issues was one of the main reasons. Your right about the explosiveness though. I don't draft guys in the 2nd round I'm afraid to start. I have Jones-Drew in 3 leagues and YES I am rolling him out in all 3!! With confidence!! Im not afraid to start him. Im just looking at all my options. And once the season starts its not about where you drafted somebody. Its about getting the most points possible each week. I just have a feeling that THIS WEEK Ricky MAY be set up to give me more points than MJD. You drafted him in the 2nd round; there was obviously something you liked about him. It's week 1. Play him. If you drafted him expecting 80-100 total yards and a TD every week, you're going to be sorely disappointed. He's a guy that will get you a handful of points for 3 weeks and explode on the 4th week. If you spend all season swapping him in and out of your line-up, you're going to miss his big weeks. Miss his big weeks, and you just wasted your 2nd round pick. Pair him with a consistent scorer at RB1 and put him in your line-up and leave him there. Of course there are a lot of things I like about MJD. His explosiveness, his consistent TD production, involvement in the passing game, etc. Nothing about that changes if I sit him in week 1. I drafted him for his value over the course of the season. And I knew when I drafted him that there would be weeks where he doesnt put up much due to his relative lack of touches. I dont plan on juggling him all year BUT as I stated in my first post I may sit him THIS WEEK b/c this is a particularly bad matchup with all of the things I mentioned. I think he continues his trend of slow starts as it may take the O-line a game to adjust to a new center, and they are playing a dominant run D on the road. The TD's are what makes MJD a good play and even with 15 carries, chances are he gets one. Plus you have a stud RB to absorb some of the blow if he has a bad game. You've got to start at top 15 RB and definitely not Chris Johnson. Good point. And I drafted MJD because I felt there was a significant drop off in my rankings after the top 15 and had I passed on MJD in the second I wouldnt have got a 2nd RB from that group. Thanks for all the opinions. Just using this thread to kind of think outloud. I have a tendency to overthink things and theres a good argument for me to just put the best player in the lineup and roll with him. Still thinking about it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted September 6, 2008 Thanks for all the opinions. Just using this thread to kind of think outloud. I have a tendency to overthink things and theres a good argument for me to just put the best player in the lineup and roll with. Still thinking about it though. I agree, and that is what makes FF fun. That being said, Week 1 is not the time to start playing matchups IMO. I'd wait a few weeks to see how Ricky and the Fins running game looks before making such a choice. That also being said, I've got an interesting dilemma with Brees (TB) and Warner (SF). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father murphy 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Not that I wouldn't start MJD because I would- but if you're looking to get anything out of Ricky, it's going to need to be early in the season. I think Ronnie takes back the role within 4 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted September 6, 2008 Not that I wouldn't start MJD because I would- but if you're looking to get anything out of Ricky, it's going to need to be early in the season. I think Ronnie takes back the role within 4 weeks. I thought about this, but objectively that in and of itself does not warrant starting him over a better option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted September 6, 2008 I agree, and that is what makes FF fun. That being said, Week 1 is not the time to start playing matchups IMO. I'd wait a few weeks to see how Ricky and the Fins running game looks before making such a choice. That also being said, I've got an interesting dilemma with Brees (TB) and Warner (SF). Just incase you forgot or haven't thought about yet, I wanted to throw this out there since you are still deciding. Miami won 1 game last year. Now this isn't the end all be all or anything, just a small nugget that may sway you one way or the other. Obviously I have nothing at stake here, just trying to help out. jerryskids, I don't see how you can bench Brees when you consider the advice you just gave. Go Brees......if you really wanted an opinion and weren't just touting that nice QB roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted September 6, 2008 :thumbsup: Just incase you forgot or haven't thought about yet, I wanted to throw this out there since you are still deciding. Miami won 1 game last year. Now this isn't the end all be all or anything, just a small nugget that may sway you one way or the other. Obviously I have nothing at stake here, just trying to help out. jerryskids, I don't see how you can bench Brees when you consider the advice you just gave. Go Brees......if you really wanted an opinion and weren't just touting that nice QB roster. I know, but cripes... Warner torched the Niners for close to 5 hunny last year, TB's defense is still pretty good... in the end I'll most likely go Brees, but it is so tempting. alsohomerfanwerds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tditty 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Ten D is solid and they're playing at home. Usually defenses are a step or two ahead of offenses in the early part of the season. Is Ricky splitting carries with Brown? The Jets D should give up big yards but if Miami gets down early they may be forced to throw a lot. Tough call but I would lean toward Ricky. I'm stuck with the same choice between MJD or Parker (at home against HOU) to go along with LT. I'm leaning Parker right now, but worry about MJD breaking a long one. Any Jag fans hear anything about how much they'll be using Taylor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted September 6, 2008 I know, but cripes... Warner torched the Niners for close to 5 hunny last year, TB's defense is still pretty good... in the end I'll most likely go Brees, but it is so tempting. alsohomerfanwerds I hear you. Hell, I have played a player because of being on a night game or on my local station, when it's a close call. I remember one night needing a big game from Shaun Alexander and his was playing Sunday night or Monday night. Some times, a lot of time, stars shine in thee spotlight. I was literally yelling and cheering when he got his 4th TD in the first half, and he wasn't even done. Something nice about watching your players live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father murphy 0 Posted September 6, 2008 I thought about this, but objectively that in and of itself does not warrant starting him over a better option. Agreed. I would go with MJD myself. Just wanted to express my opinion on Ricky's limited worth as he was also part of the poster's equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BREWSTER_MIL 0 Posted September 7, 2008 I'm having the same problem. I think I'm going to sit MJD and start Maroney against KC. I like to play match ups. Your not going to be right every time but over time if you play the right guy 65-75% of the time. Then your ahead of the game. Just my .02 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rosslive99 1 Posted September 7, 2008 Is MJD still returning kicks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites