kilroy69 1,023 Posted August 8, 2009 Not Manny injecting him with what he was using. Yea right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,352 Posted August 8, 2009 What's a "supplament" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted August 9, 2009 Ortiz: I know my name is on the list, but it has to be a mistake. I never did steroids. ARod: Dammit! Why didn't I think of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted August 9, 2009 I'd just like to add that I never inhaled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted August 9, 2009 What is the better 'excuse' for failing a drug test? "It must have been something that was in my over-the-counter, completely legal supplements" or "The test must have been faulty. I've never taken steroids" Or the Ortiz-combination-of-the-two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted August 9, 2009 What is the better 'excuse' for failing a drug test? "It must have been something that was in my over-the-counter, completely legal supplements" or "The test must have been faulty. I've never taken steroids" Or the Ortiz-combination-of-the-two? It seems to be working for the Williams boys in Minny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,665 Posted August 9, 2009 Ortiz: I know my name is on the list, but it has to be a mistake. I never did steroids.ARod: Dammit! Why didn't I think of that? The union obviously was willing to go to bat for Ortiz. Why? I have no idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 1 Posted August 9, 2009 his 1st answer told it all: no comment. If he -really- didn't do it, and I were in his shoes I'd be: I never used steroids! I used many supplements before they were MLB approved, but never steroids. Tell you what, I'll even take a polygraph test to prove it. Espn can hire the tester and i'll pay them for it and the results will speak for themselves. If you have 50mill in the bank and your entire career reputation on the line, that's a puny investment for hugely good results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highlight66 0 Posted August 9, 2009 If it was supplements,why don't these dinks get all the crap they use and have it tested so EVERYONE knows what not to use. I'm tired of the excuse "it must have been an OTC supplement". Well,which one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 1 Posted August 9, 2009 If it was supplements,why don't these dinks get all the crap they use and have it tested so EVERYONE knows what not to use. I'm tired of the excuse "it must have been an OTC supplement". Well,which one? THEY DO But they didn't do so up until about 7 years ago. Back then when korey stringer died, congress banned ephedra and andro type supplements. Those were much much less powerful than anabolic steroids, but they could still test you positive. The excuse that they were tainted is weak. It was quite rare to find a company adding actual roids to a supplement for effectiveness, but it sure made a popular excuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted August 9, 2009 The union obviously was willing to go to bat for Ortiz. Why? I have no idea. And this is exactly why the guys like Giambi and ARod, who actually man-up and just tell teh truth, are so hard to find. It's so much easier to just play dumb and leave some doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,352 Posted August 9, 2009 And this is exactly why the guys like Giambi and ARod, who actually man-up and just tell teh truth, are so hard to find. It's so much easier to just play dumb and leave some doubt. So they are ok, even though they cheated? Will you give Obama a free pass when he finally admits that he is actually an undercover agent for Al Qaeda? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted August 10, 2009 So they are ok, even though they cheated? No, but doing steroids and being honest when caught makes you a better person than doing steroids and lying when you get caught. Is there anyone who disagrees with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 1 Posted August 10, 2009 lying = they think you're an idiot and they are without fault being even somewhat honest = they actually have some regret and consider fan's opinions. although that doesn't go for all. for exa Aroid, his whole 'honesty' deal was just a PR move, his handlers idea not his Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted August 10, 2009 lying = they think you're an idiot and they are without faultbeing even somewhat honest = they actually have some regret and consider fan's opinions. although that doesn't go for all. for exa Aroid, his whole 'honesty' deal was just a PR move, his handlers idea not his I still can't think of anyone who handled it better than Jason Giambi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 1 Posted August 10, 2009 I still can't think of anyone who handled it better than Jason Giambi. as far as well known players...yup. and it wasn't even about his simply apolorgizing to the fans. what impressed me was his grand jury testimony where he told -everything-. getting gh shots in the gut, cycles, side effects, everything. most the other athletes in that trial lied their azzes off and paid a price. he caught some flack for not admitting those things in the press conf, but verifying that his leaked testimony was true was enuf for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted August 10, 2009 No, but doing steroids and being honest when caught makes you a better person than doing steroids and lying when you get caught. Is there anyone who disagrees with that? Americas a forgiving country, even as an animal lover I REALLY feel Vick paid his dues, no reason to not let him play until the 6th-7th week of this NFL season. Donte Stallworth killed a man for gods sake while under the influence, yet Vick served a harder sentence. Yeah, honesty is admirable, but the question is would they do it whitout the advice of agents and otherwise? Probably not. They all make me mad casue I dont believe ANY of these guys would just ever man up on their own Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,352 Posted August 10, 2009 I still can't think of anyone who handled it better than Jason Giambi. Barry Bonds did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted August 10, 2009 Barry Bonds did If by "better" you mean, taking so many different roids that your head actually changes shape and you get to go from a great all-around player to a fraud of a power hitter and break a record you have no reason even getting a sniff at, then yes, I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
