just_want_2_win 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Buy low QB Rodgers Buy low RBs Slaton Forte Ronnie Brown LJ Turner S. Jackson Portis Jacobs Chris Johnson DeAngelo Buy Low WRs R. White Andre Johnson Marshall Housh Edwards Steve Smith (Car.) Royal Avery DeSean Jackson Colston Sell High RBs Mike Bell Julius Jones Caddy Benson Jamal Lewis (!) Sell High WRs/TEs Carlson Devery Henderson Crayton Burleson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llano 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Good post -- comments and suggestions below (took out the players that no one would sell low) Buy low QB Rodgers Cutler Schaub Buy low RBs Slaton Ronnie Brown LJ (not sure if this is buy low, but people will lose sight of the fact that it was the Ravens D) S. Jackson Portis Chris Johnson R. Bush (if you look at him as flex player with great upside, rather than RB1 or 2, then you might actually be able to get him for what he's worth given the negativity on him today) Felix Jones Beanie Well Knowshon Moreno FWP (actually, wait one more week and then buy really low) Buy Low WRs/TEs R. White (only because he's a new generally agreed WR1; otherwise, any sensible owner would not make any decision based on 1 game) Marshall (maybe, but maintain expectations) Housh (not sure if this really qualifies; he underperformed, but SEA passing offense didn't; doubt owners would sell low) Edwards (maybe, but maintain expectations) Steve Smith (Car.) (one more ridiculous week from Delhomme and Smith will be really cheap. Though, 4 more bad weaks from Delhomme and that might be the right price) E. Royal Avery (I don't think this is right; Bulger looks horrible; not sure many folks want to own ANY Rams WR) Colston (given the history last year and Brees' record-breaking day, some Colston owner is getting too nervous) Boldin Heap (I think he'll actually have a solid year, but he's probably your TE2 and you might be able to sell for top ten TE1-quality talent) Sell High RBs -- great list Mike Bell Julius Jones Caddy Benson (maybe not; he's a RB1 on a team that looked mediocre, not horrible) Jamal Lewis (!) (maybe not; Davis showed nothing to warrant the hype) Sell High WRs/TEs Carlson (disagree; looks to be possible top TE) Devery Henderson (agree -- he has a history of inconsistency on an offense that spreads it around) Crayton (not sure I agree; if I was a Crayton owner, I'd hold on to him as possible breakout candidate) Burleson Heap Sell High QBs Sanchez (some people just love to have a "hot rookie" on their squad, let them get 'em while he's hot) Hasselbeck (again, he'll probably have a decent year, but if he's your QB2 flyer, now's the time deal him to someone who thinks they need a QB1 for quality upgrade somewhere else) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llano 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Just to clarify a few errors -- The Heap stuff under "Buy Low" is meant to be for "Sell High" and I know Benson is a RB2, I just meant he was an unquestioned starter on his team; I think he'll be a decent RB2 and definitely a solid flex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted September 15, 2009 The original post is nothing but a list of hyped up players who overperformed, and vice versa. What about some insight? Not everyone of those players listed merely had a "bad game" - some will just simply not be that good this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaguilar2549 0 Posted September 15, 2009 The original post is nothing but a list of hyped up players who overperformed, and vice versa. What about some insight? Not everyone of those players listed merely had a "bad game" - some will just simply not be that good this year. I agree, but there have already been a few threads about how someone thinks these guys are bust! Like the Steve Slaton bust thread! I am looking for that type of owner and trying to make a deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big D 0 Posted September 15, 2009 Brandon Marshall is a great buy low candidate. I was surprised how much he was targeted considering he was non-existent in camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 15, 2009 Sell Low - LT2 (This focker is done.) Also, disagree about Carlson. I think he's an emerging potential top 5 TE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted September 15, 2009 Julius Jones. See STL Rams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkustes03 4 Posted September 15, 2009 Sell High: most of my rbs Thomas Jones Julius Jones McGahee All on my team....All looked good.... Probaly not gonna finish that way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
da_mane_man 1 Posted September 15, 2009 how about Adrian Peterson for sell high? he's not gonna do that every week. you might bew able to get mjd and something else for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted September 15, 2009 Sell Low - LT2 (This focker is done.) Also, disagree about Carlson. I think he's an emerging potential top 5 TE. Agree on LT. I was really high on him coming into the season. I was wrong. The guy just doesn't have it....to be fair though, the Raiders looked alright on defense. Still, LT is a matchup play now. Get what you can for him. I'm witholding judgment on all Seahawks until they play a real pro team. Carlson has top 5 potential...no doubt. But will that line hold up? And if it doesn't, will he be asked to stay in to help block? I still think Schaub turns it on soon. Probably won't happen this weekend at Tennessee. Two straight sub par games might have some owners skittish and you might be able to get him on the cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 15, 2009 I'm witholding judgment on all Seahawks until they play a real pro team. Carlson has top 5 potential...no doubt. But will that line hold up? And if it doesn't, will he be asked to stay in to help block? He's obviously not going to catch 2 tds every week but after a very productive rookie season with nobodies throwing him the ball, I like his chances in his second year with a real NFL QB and an improved offense. Also, I'm not opposed to trading him but I don't feel the need to unload him for anyone after one big week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llano 0 Posted September 15, 2009 The original post is nothing but a list of hyped up players who overperformed, and vice versa. What about some insight? Not everyone of those players listed merely had a "bad game" - some will just simply not be that good this year. The above-quoted post adds absolutely no value and is sadly part of the reason this sight has lost utility over the past few years. How can you post something complaining about lack of insight, which itself provides no insight? Which players do you think merely had a bad game and which players will simply not be that good this year (distinguishing between the two is kind of the point of the post)? The original poster provided his opinions -- his list inherently took the opinion that his Buy Low folks were good players that had bad days and his sell high players had exceptionally good days, but not likely to repeat over the season. Other posters provided their opinions on a more limited range of players. There are just too many of these crap posts these days that criticize and offer no value of their own. Sorry kmbryant, I do not mean to single you out, as I have no idea about your other posts, but this particular post adds no value. Back to trying to add value -- I think Thomas Jones has been underappreciated. I wouldn't sell him High; I'd keep him and let him rack up points for me throughout the year again. Leon Washington is talented and will see more touches, but hopefully that will keep Jones fresh and injury-free. Greene will take over at some point, but that may not be until next year. If I'm at NYJ, I say if it ain't broke don't fix it. Jones was a top-5 RB last year (fantasy-wise and real-life), I think people are down on him one year early. I was actually hoping he'd have a bad day so I could try to buy him low. He got drafted two slots ahead of where I was targeting him given the negativity he was receiving and I regret not picking him up when I had the chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 15, 2009 how about Adrian Peterson for sell high? he's not gonna do that every week. you might bew able to get mjd and something else for him. As a Peterson owner I've already thought about this. As a guy who traded for LT in the 2nd week of the 2006 season, I may think better of trading AP. If he's about to embark on his career year and put up 30 td's and over 2000 yards, I want to be the guy that's holding him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
just_want_2_win 0 Posted September 15, 2009 As a Peterson owner I've already thought about this. As a guy who traded for LT in the 2nd week of the 2006 season, I may think better of trading AP. If he's about to embark on his career year and put up 30 td's and over 2000 yards, I want to be the guy that's holding him. I wouldn't trade AP. I think with his cake schedule that you'll be seeing a ton of games like Week 1 from him; this might be his career year. The only worries are injury (get Chester Taylor or make sure you have quality depth at RB behind AP) and Favre continuing to really underwhelm so that D's can play the run. Even with the latter, though, I don't think you see Peterson have truly bad days, just less spectacular ones. I don't think even landing MJD and say AJ together would give you the consistently frightening lineup presence that AP does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted September 15, 2009 The above-quoted post adds absolutely no value and is sadly part of the reason this sight has lost utility over the past few years. How can you post something complaining about lack of insight, which itself provides no insight? Which players do you think merely had a bad game and which players will simply not be that good this year (distinguishing between the two is kind of the point of the post)? The original poster provided his opinions -- his list inherently took the opinion that his Buy Low folks were good players that had bad days and his sell high players had exceptionally good days, but not likely to repeat over the season. Other posters provided their opinions on a more limited range of players. There are just too many of these crap posts these days that criticize and offer no value of their own. Sorry kmbryant, I do not mean to single you out, as I have no idea about your other posts, but this particular post adds no value. Back to trying to add value -- I think Thomas Jones has been underappreciated. I wouldn't sell him High; I'd keep him and let him rack up points for me throughout the year again. Leon Washington is talented and will see more touches, but hopefully that will keep Jones fresh and injury-free. Greene will take over at some point, but that may not be until next year. If I'm at NYJ, I say if it ain't broke don't fix it. Jones was a top-5 RB last year (fantasy-wise and real-life), I think people are down on him one year early. I was actually hoping he'd have a bad day so I could try to buy him low. He got drafted two slots ahead of where I was targeting him given the negativity he was receiving and I regret not picking him up when I had the chance. My post added about as much insight as the Original Post. Everyone on this site can tell you which QBs had bad games, which RBs had great games, etc. etc. But when someone starts a thread titled Buy Lows/Sell Highs, I'm expecting a little input. Maybe something like, well S. Smith had a bad game, but he was double covered, had had a few drops, just missed on a TD, or something along the lines of insight. Listing every player who didn't live up to their week1 hype is not a Buy/Low Sell/High Thread. Its merely a list of players at their position. I agree that many people on here add nothing, and am convinced some people actually only try to pick fights with people. But its also threads like this that have no added insight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,870 Posted September 15, 2009 My post added about as much insight as the Original Post. Everyone on this site can tell you which QBs had bad games, which RBs had great games, etc. etc. But when someone starts a thread titled Buy Lows/Sell Highs, I'm expecting a little input. Maybe something like, well S. Smith had a bad game, but he was double covered, had had a few drops, just missed on a TD, or something along the lines of insight. Listing every player who didn't live up to their week1 hype is not a Buy/Low Sell/High Thread. Its merely a list of players at their position. I agree that many people on here add nothing, and am convinced some people actually only try to pick fights with people. But its also threads like this that have no added insight. Well maybe he thinks all the guys under "buy low" will still have good seasons (even though some people may think they won't). And he must think the guys under "sell high" won't really have great seasons (some people may still think they will). No, there wasn't much insight, but I got the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted September 15, 2009 how about Adrian Peterson for sell high? he's not gonna do that every week. you might bew able to get mjd and something else for him. Probably not a good idea. As an AP owner, I'm not expecting 180 yards and 3 TDs per week, but he's too talented, and his schedule is toooo ridiculously easy to trade for anything less than a #1 RB AND #1 WR. I'm talking like S. Jackson and Calvin Johnson, and only then if your thin at WRs. Look at his schedule - Detroit - should put up similar #s to week 1 SF/GB - tougher matchups, but still middle of the road. STL - should rip through them like a hot knife through butter BAL/PITT - very tough matchups, but it is AP we're talking about so who knows GB again Detroit...enough said Seattle...enough said Chicago - he torches CHI and they are without Urlacher now Arizona/Cincy...enough said Carolina - their D looked horrendous against the run Chicago again I see 2 tough matchups in the middle of the year. Other than that, I see pretty favorable matchups all the way through, with cakewalks against Detroit TWICE, Seattle, STL, and Cincy (and Chicago twice for that matter) He got the goalline carries, which was my biggest concern coming into the season...at this point, Im half expecting about 1,800 yards and 20 TDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mhaggy 0 Posted September 15, 2009 I definitely disagree about selling Burleson high. Hass was raving about him during training camp, he fits in perfectly with that offense *and* they're going to be throwing a lot. I believe that Branch comes back next week... but who cares. Branch is done - he only went 30 rec/412 yds/4 tds last year and he's never had a 1000 yd receiving year in his career so it's not like he's some top talent that is going to come back and demand a lot of looks. Stick with Burleson people. Everyone needs to stop over thinking things - don't sell high on AD, you're never going to get back what you would need to to trade him away. He's just one of those guys whose talent makes him impossible to trade. Plus as a poster mentioned above me, his schedule is awesome. Also, I don't get why people were so down on Thomas Jones all preseason and now are saying to sell high on him. The Jets have a rookie QB who they are going to try and protect by running the ball a lot, their receiving corps isn't great by any means, they have a fantastic O-line, TJ gets the goalline carries and the HC is coming from a top-3 rushing team in the league last year. Leon Washington is there? So what. He's been there for years now and has never set the league on fire or anything and Shonn Greene is zero threat. I drafted TJ in every league I could and I am loving it I think the whole buy low/sell high thing is kinda silly after week 1 since only the most bipolar of people are going to be dumping guys that underperformed after only one week, but yeah... I guess sell high on Henderson, Mike Bell, JJ, etc. if you can but I find it difficult to believe that you could get a whole lot for these guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingstowne Dealers 14 Posted September 16, 2009 Probably not a good idea. As an AP owner, I'm not expecting 180 yards and 3 TDs per week, but he's too talented, and his schedule is toooo ridiculously easy to trade for anything less than a #1 RB AND #1 WR. I'm talking like S. Jackson and Calvin Johnson, and only then if your thin at WRs. Look at his schedule - Detroit - should put up similar #s to week 1 SF/GB - tougher matchups, but still middle of the road. STL - should rip through them like a hot knife through butter BAL/PITT - very tough matchups, but it is AP we're talking about so who knows GB again Detroit...enough said Seattle...enough said Chicago - he torches CHI and they are without Urlacher now Arizona/Cincy...enough said Carolina - their D looked horrendous against the run Chicago again I see 2 tough matchups in the middle of the year. Other than that, I see pretty favorable matchups all the way through, with cakewalks against Detroit TWICE, Seattle, STL, and Cincy (and Chicago twice for that matter) He got the goalline carries, which was my biggest concern coming into the season...at this point, Im half expecting about 1,800 yards and 20 TDs I wouldn't call Seattle a cake matchup at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
golfreak 0 Posted September 16, 2009 Sometimes you have to feel good when your hunch is right on. I have Carlson on all 3 money leagues and he scoreed 23/24 and 26 respectively. Of course he won't have that kind of week often but he should be top 5 TE this season. 600+yds and 5tds for a rookie with noone throwing to him to Hasselbeck this year. Picked him in round 12 or later in all 3 leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted September 16, 2009 i just traded mike bell for joe flacco....and love it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dschddny 0 Posted September 16, 2009 Probably not a good idea. As an AP owner, I'm not expecting 180 yards and 3 TDs per week, but he's too talented, and his schedule is toooo ridiculously easy to trade for anything less than a #1 RB AND #1 WR. I'm talking like S. Jackson and Calvin Johnson, and only then if your thin at WRs. Look at his schedule - Detroit - should put up similar #s to week 1 SF/GB - tougher matchups, but still middle of the road. STL - should rip through them like a hot knife through butter BAL/PITT - very tough matchups, but it is AP we're talking about so who knows GB again Detroit...enough said Seattle...enough said Chicago - he torches CHI and they are without Urlacher now Arizona/Cincy...enough said Carolina - their D looked horrendous against the run Chicago again I see 2 tough matchups in the middle of the year. Other than that, I see pretty favorable matchups all the way through, with cakewalks against Detroit TWICE, Seattle, STL, and Cincy (and Chicago twice for that matter) He got the goalline carries, which was my biggest concern coming into the season...at this point, Im half expecting about 1,800 yards and 20 TDs Would you give up Turner and Wayne for AP if given the opportunity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites