Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 Moving the site doesn't make those opposed to it right - it makes the Muslims the bigger people. Congrats on your new low and truly letting the terrorists win. I'm glad this is (potentially) over so the American People can focus on things that actually matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted August 17, 2010 It is the origin/meaning of the name Hussain which is the middle name given to a man who is currently the President of the United States of America. His first and last name is of Kenyan origin. It's a possible clue to a larger puzzle. I think it would be wise to learn the origin and life purpose and upbringing, and belief system of the most powerful man in the world, to be cautious that our way of life in this Country is preserved as per the wishes of the people of the United States. Don't you find it puzzling that the middle name given to our President has a Shiite Islamic origin, or a royal name from Jordan? Do you think that is why Obama spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep his birth certificate under wraps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 Moving the site doesn't make those opposed to it right - it makes the Muslims the bigger people. Congrats on your new low and truly letting the terrorists win. I'm glad this is (potentially) over so the American People can focus on things that actually matter. They're not the "bigger" people. They backed down because they realized the negative backlash against them would be bad for them if they stuck to their plan. They were insensitive toward the families and firefighters, doctors and nurses who sacrificed because of 9/11 terrorist attacks, and we're called out on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted August 17, 2010 Moving the site doesn't make those opposed to it right - it makes the Muslims the bigger people. Congrats on your new low and truly letting the terrorists win. I'm glad this is (potentially) over so the American People can focus on things that actually matter. I dont think I would go as far as you and Me2006 are going. Glad to hear this though. In fact, it makes me think there is a possibility that this wasn't just a total slap in the face by the mooslims to begin with. Then again, this was probably the plan from the get go. An attempt for sympathy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted August 17, 2010 They're not the "bigger" people. They backed down because they realized the negative backlash against them would be bad for them if they stuck to their plan. They were insensitive toward the families and firefighters, doctors and nurses who sacrificed because of 9/11 terrorist attacks, and we're called out on it. :thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 I'm guessing some of the people that are born and raised in the U.S. that are so politically correct as to be on the side of the Muslims wanting to build an Islamic Center and Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero are the same people that say it is insensitive to say "Merry Christmas" and say you should say Happy Holidays instead. Do You so believe the thought that the God of Christianity is a farce that you go so far as to support Muslims and ridicule Christians? Are you knowlegeble about Islam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 They're not the "bigger" people. They backed down because they realized the negative backlash against them would be bad for them if they stuck to their plan. They were insensitive toward the families and firefighters, doctors and nurses who sacrificed because of 9/11 terrorist attacks, and we're called out on it. When did they convert the WTC to a gigantic hospital? And who is this "we" that got called out on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 I'm guessing some of the people that are born and raised in the U.S. that are so politically correct as to be on the side of the Muslims wanting to build an Islamic Center and Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero are the same people that say it is insensitive to say "Merry Christmas" and say you should say Happy Holidays instead. Do You so believe the thought that the God of Christianity is a farce that you go so far as to support Muslims and ridicule Christians? Are you knowlegeble about Islam? Who are you talking to and wtf are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 You're usually reasonable, GoColts, but giving two handjobs to Gepetto's drivel makes me sad for you. Mark Freedom of Religion off the list - all because this is just too close. Which Freedom will we tarnish next? Don't bother responding to him, Turd. Dude is off his rocker crazy in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted August 17, 2010 I'm guessing some of the people that are born and raised in the U.S. that are so politically correct as to be on the side of the Muslims wanting to build an Islamic Center and Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero are the same people that say it is insensitive to say "Merry Christmas" and say you should say Happy Holidays instead. Do You so believe the thought that the God of Christianity is a farce that you go so far as to support Muslims and ridicule Christians? Are you knowlegeble about Islam? It isn't a Christian v Muslim thing. It's a freedom thing. They're allowed to build their place of worship wherever the law allows just as someone is allowed to say 'Merry Christmas' or 'Go fock yourself' or whatever they choose to say. I'm a Christian. That, however, has nothing to do with what someone else is or isn't allowed to do by law. The Bible isn't the Constitution and vice versa. You shouldn't look to the Bible for law and you shouldn't look to the Constitution for morality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted August 17, 2010 I'm guessing some of the people that are born and raised in the U.S. that are so politically correct as to be on the side of the Muslims wanting to build an Islamic Center and Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero are the same people that say it is insensitive to say "Merry Christmas" and say you should say Happy Holidays instead. Do You so believe the thought that the God of Christianity is a farce that you go so far as to support Muslims and ridicule Christians? Are you knowlegeble about Islam? You're both too stupid to realize you both worship a rip-off of the story of Horus. I have no allegiance to either of you lunatics. I'm a devote member of the Church of Harry Potter. Much more original story imo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 You're both too stupid to realize you both worship a rip-off of the story of Horus. I have no allegiance to either of you lunatics. I'm a devote member of the Church of Harry Potter. Much more original story imo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 You're both too stupid to realize you both worship a rip-off of the story of Horus. I have no allegiance to either of you lunatics. I'm a devote member of the Church of Harry Potter. Much more original story imo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 Who are you talking to and wtf are you talking about? There is a wave of political correctness in this Country that is tolerant and OK with pretty much anything anyone does is fine as long as you don't hurt anyone. Well I have a belief system that certain things people do are wrong and I'm not going to just turn a blind eye to it all. It seems to stem from people that are "agnostic" or "atheist" or simply anti-Christianity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted August 17, 2010 You're usually reasonable, GoColts, but giving two handjobs to Gepetto's drivel makes me sad for you. Mark Freedom of Religion off the list - all because this is just too close. Which one will we lose next? Don't bother responding to him, Turd. Dude is off his rocker crazy in this thread. Freedom of Religion was focked a long time ago. Seems like religions have been attacked endlessly, except islam that is. I just think it is strange how this thing was going. Isn't the clown that started this some Hamas sympathizer or some sh1t?? I know technically, it should be okay. But after years of seeing all these other religions attacked relentlessly at every turn for far less, this idea seems insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 There is a wave of political correctness in this Country that is tolerant and OK with pretty much anything anyone does is fine as long as you don't hurt anyone. Well I have a belief system that certain things people do are wrong and I'm not going to just turn a blind eye to it all. It seems to stem from people that are "agnostic" or "atheist" or simply anti-Christianity. You've got to be a plant! This is fantastic! The bolded is exactly how I would describe myself. It's also how I would describe the intent of the existence of the United States of America. I hope you realize, one day, that the person you describe in the underlined portion is a Muslim Extremist. They hate them non-monotheists too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 Isn't the clown that started this some Hamas sympathizer or some sh1t?? Yeah, I saw that episode of Beck too. And as someone who watches every show of his, and most of the time agrees with him, he was reaching with his chalkboard photo connections. Hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 There is a wave of political correctness in this Country that is tolerant and OK with pretty much anything anyone does is fine as long as you don't hurt anyone. Well I have a belief system that certain things people do are wrong and I'm not going to just turn a blind eye to it all. It seems to stem from people that are "agnostic" or "atheist" or simply anti-Christianity. lmao, between this and the gays having sex with monkeys thing, it makes me glad i don't subscribe to any bullshit religion. wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 Freedom of Religion was focked a long time ago. Seems like religions have been attacked endlessly, except islam that is. I just think it is strange how this thing was going. Isn't the clown that started this some Hamas sympathizer or some sh1t?? I know technically, it should be okay. But after years of seeing all these other religions attacked relentlessly at every turn for far less, this idea seems insane. ummm, open your eyes. the muslim religion is attacked on a daily basis on this board. what attacks are you speaking of anyways? when was the last time christianity was "attacked" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 lmao, between this and the gays having sex with monkeys thing, it makes me glad i don't subscribe to any bullshit religion. wow. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm#origin http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf HIV cannot reproduce outside the human body. It is not spread by: Air or water. Insects, including mosquitoes. Studies conducted by CDC researchers and others have shown no evidence of HIV transmission from insects. Saliva, tears, or sweat. There is no documented case of HIV being transmitted by spitting. Casual contact like shaking hands or sharing dishes. Closed-mouth or “social” kissing. All reported cases suggesting new or potentially unknown routes of transmission are thoroughly investigated by state and local health departments with assistance, guidance, and laboratory support from CDC. It's a Sexually Transmitted disease with a disproporionate high level of spread among homosexual men and it was taught that it began with a rhesus monkey. OK, so it is thought that humans came into contact with the monkey's blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm#origin http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf HIV cannot reproduce outside the human body. It is not spread by: Air or water. Insects, including mosquitoes. Studies conducted by CDC researchers and others have shown no evidence of HIV transmission from insects. Saliva, tears, or sweat. There is no documented case of HIV being transmitted by spitting. Casual contact like shaking hands or sharing dishes. Closed-mouth or “social” kissing. All reported cases suggesting new or potentially unknown routes of transmission are thoroughly investigated by state and local health departments with assistance, guidance, and laboratory support from CDC. It's a Sexually Transmitted disease with a disproporionate high level of spread among homosexual men and it was taught that it began with a rhesus monkey. OK, so it is thought that humans came into contact with the monkey's blood. Fine. So then, what does that have to do with gays? What a pud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 Here it is: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_HIV_come_in_to_existence How did HIV come in to existence? In: HIV and AIDS, Autoimmune Diseases [Edit categories] [improve] AIDS Beginnings Answer taken from: http://www.avert.org/origins.htm The first recognised cases of AIDS occurred in the USA in the early 1980s. A number of gay men in New York and San Francisco suddenly began to develop rare opportunistic infections and cancers that seemed stubbornly resistant to any treatment. At this time, AIDS did not yet have a name, but it quickly became obvious that all the men were suffering from a common syndrome. The discovery of HIV, the Human Immunodeficiency Virus, was made soon after. While some were initially resistant to acknowledge the connection (and indeed some remain so today), there is now clear evidence to prove that HIV causes AIDS. It is now generally accepted that HIV is a descendant of a Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIV) because certain strains of SIVs bear a very close resemblance to HIV-1 and HIV-2, the two types of HIV. HIV-2 for example corresponds to SIVsm, a strain of the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus found in the sooty mangabey (also known as the green monkey), which is indigenous to western Africa. It has been known for a long time that certain viruses can pass between species. Indeed, the very fact that chimpanzees obtained SIV from two other species of ape shows just how easily this crossover can occur. As animals ourselves, we are just as susceptible. When a viral transfer between animals and humans takes place, it is known as zoonosis. The most commonly accepted theory of humans getting HIV from the above explained SIV is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIV was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and become HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1) would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain. The other theory is that when a scientist (name unknown) thought monkeys were immune to the Polio virus they injected it into them. The Polio virus mutated inside of monkeys and they showed no immediate symptoms. Over time some people caught it (you can guess how), and now HIV is spread commonly through intercourse and blood transfusions(it's all right, everyone who gives blood has it checked for HIV). Such an awful thought it can't even be mentioned directly in print. So I didn't make it up that man had sex with a monkey and HIV developed from an SIV infected monkey. It's one of two theories on the origin of HIV/AIDS. Thanks for playing though Turd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 So I didn't make it up that man had sex with a monkey and HIV developed from an SIV infected monkey. It's one of two theories on the origin of HIV/AIDS. It's funny cause the first link in this thread you gave us says that it came from eating monkeys: Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world. But now you've gone and got off topic. This is the thread where you prove how big of a nut you are in opposition to religions not named Christianity. Leave the people who like more than missionary style out of this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 Here it is: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_HIV_come_in_to_existence How did HIV come in to existence? In: HIV and AIDS, Autoimmune Diseases [Edit categories] [improve] AIDS Beginnings Answer taken from: http://www.avert.org/origins.htm The first recognised cases of AIDS occurred in the USA in the early 1980s. A number of gay men in New York and San Francisco suddenly began to develop rare opportunistic infections and cancers that seemed stubbornly resistant to any treatment. At this time, AIDS did not yet have a name, but it quickly became obvious that all the men were suffering from a common syndrome. The discovery of HIV, the Human Immunodeficiency Virus, was made soon after. While some were initially resistant to acknowledge the connection (and indeed some remain so today), there is now clear evidence to prove that HIV causes AIDS. It is now generally accepted that HIV is a descendant of a Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIV) because certain strains of SIVs bear a very close resemblance to HIV-1 and HIV-2, the two types of HIV. HIV-2 for example corresponds to SIVsm, a strain of the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus found in the sooty mangabey (also known as the green monkey), which is indigenous to western Africa. It has been known for a long time that certain viruses can pass between species. Indeed, the very fact that chimpanzees obtained SIV from two other species of ape shows just how easily this crossover can occur. As animals ourselves, we are just as susceptible. When a viral transfer between animals and humans takes place, it is known as zoonosis. The most commonly accepted theory of humans getting HIV from the above explained SIV is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIV was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and become HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1) would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain. The other theory is that when a scientist (name unknown) thought monkeys were immune to the Polio virus they injected it into them. The Polio virus mutated inside of monkeys and they showed no immediate symptoms. Over time some people caught it (you can guess how), and now HIV is spread commonly through intercourse and blood transfusions(it's all right, everyone who gives blood has it checked for HIV). Such an awful thought it can't even be mentioned directly in print. So I didn't make it up that man had sex with a monkey and HIV developed from an SIV infected monkey. It's one of two theories on the origin of HIV/AIDS. Thanks for playing though Turd. jesus fock, you're such a clown. no where in the link cited does it posit that gays focked monkeys. plus there are way more than 2 theories on the origin. and come on, wikianswers? would you like me to edit it to say that your dad shoved a monkey up your moms vagina and that's how aids got started? would that become a viable theory in your mind if it said that on a web site that ANYone can edit? thank YOU for playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 It's funny cause the first link in this thread you gave us says that it came from eating monkeys: Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world. But now you've gone and got off topic. This is the thread where you prove how big of a nut you are in opposition to religions not named Christianity. Leave the people who like more than missionary style out of this one. It's not from eating them, it's from hunting them and wounds getting infected from the monkey blood. Try reading the link. HIV doesn't spread from ingestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 jesus fock, you're such a clown. no where in the link cited does it posit that gays focked monkeys. plus there are way more than 2 theories on the origin. and come on, wikianswers? would you like me to edit it to say that your dad shoved a monkey up your moms vagina and that's how aids got started? would that become a viable theory in your mind if it said that on a web site that ANYone can edit? thank YOU for playing. It was a commonly taught idea on the origin of HIV. I don't know what they teach you kids nowadays. Probably whatever liberal agenda wants to be taught so as not to hurt anyone's feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 It's not from eating them, it's from hunting them and wounds getting infected from the monkey blood. Try reading the link. HIV doesn't spread from ingestion. So it wasn't from raping them, then? Glad we got that out of the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 So it wasn't from raping them, then? Glad we got that out of the way. That's only one theory. The other being human having sex with infected monkey - I provided the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 And if that were the case, what exactly does bestiality have to do with homosexuality? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 It's not from eating them, it's from hunting them and wounds getting infected from the monkey blood. Try reading the link. HIV doesn't spread from ingestion. Except it doesn't say anywhere that HIV can't spread from ingestion. If you eat a big bowl of HIV, it can enter into sores in your mouth, esophagus, stomach, etc. It was a commonly taught idea on the origin of HIV. I don't know what they teach you kids nowadays. Probably whatever liberal agenda wants to be taught so as not to hurt anyone's feelings. Commonly taught back in the 1980s? When nobody knew what the fock HIV was? You have overtaken Recliner Pilot in my mind for the dumbest poster on this board. I can't fathom that you actually believe in any of the stuff you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 That's only one theory. The other being human having sex with infected monkey - I provided the link. Like I said, ANYBODY can edit that page to say anything. Or would you like me to demonstrate? I don't want to take it to that level, because I would hate to be the cause of you believing that your parents started AIDS by shoving monkeys in each other. And if that were the case, what exactly does bestiality have to do with homosexuality? Absolutely nothing, it's just a way to justify his hatred for a group of people that have never done anything to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 Like I said, ANYBODY can edit that page to say anything. Or would you like me to demonstrate? I don't want to take it to that level, because I would hate to be the cause of you believing that your parents started AIDS by shoving monkeys in each other. Absolutely nothing, it's just a way to justify his hatred for a group of people that have never done anything to him. It's not just from that wiki website. It was what was taught. They have no proof to say otherwise from what I can find. It's just theories and it's a possibility. No one knows. I'm done talking about it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turducken 0 Posted August 17, 2010 It's not just from that wiki website. It was what was taught. They have no proof to say otherwise from what I can find. It's just theories and it's a possibility. No one knows. I'm done talking about it though. They have no proof to say that aliens didn't come down from space and buttfuck rocks to create the human race, either. Let me guess, you think the human race started when aliens came down from space and buttfucked rocks? I like how you don't deny that you were taught about this bogus theory 20+ years ago when next to nothing was known about the virus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted August 17, 2010 C'mon...we were almost at a breakthrough. We've already determined that you have a lot in common with Muslim Extremists. We were just a couple of posts away from proving that either you have more in common with hedonist homosexuals then you care to admit or that you're just as likely to spread AIDs as they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,384 Posted August 17, 2010 C'mon...we were almost at a breakthrough. We've already determined that you have a lot in common with Muslim Extremists. We were just a couple of posts away from proving that either you have more in common with hedonist homosexuals then you care to admit or that you're just as likely to spread AIDs as they are. What a stupid and unfunny post, and mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 17, 2010 The Muslims were just 'the bigger man' in this situation. Good for them. Just not worth the hassle, although it's a shame that our core values of equality really were shaken on 9/11. The shame is that their holy book is the reason for 9/11....the real shame is that the world still hasn't recognized what their religion is all about even though its portrayed through innocent civilians blood on an hourly basis. Maybe people are finally catching on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted August 17, 2010 I'm guessing some of the people that are born and raised in the U.S. that are so politically correct as to be on the side of the Muslims wanting to build an Islamic Center and Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero are the same people that say it is insensitive to say "Merry Christmas" and say you should say Happy Holidays instead. Do You so believe the thought that the God of Christianity is a farce that you go so far as to support Muslims and ridicule Christians? Are you knowlegeble about Islam? Don't open that can of worms. " Some complain about "Merry Christmas" and want to use "Seasons Greetings." Others complain about "Seasons Greetings" want to use Merry Christmas". Who cares? I want to throw monkey poo at both groups and tell each of them to STFU for ruining the Christmas season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted August 17, 2010 you shouldn't look to the Constitution for morality. Maybe we should. China definately should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted August 17, 2010 ummm, open your eyes. the muslim religion is attacked on a daily basis on this board. That's because Islam is a far bigger blight on humanity than Christianity is. Christianity on the other hand flex it's political muscles all the time forcing their beliefs down everybody's throats. If both would just believe what they want and leave everybody else alone, we wouldn't have these problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted August 17, 2010 I don't give a fock either way!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites