Does Britt surpass Andre Johnson this year?

[stitchface247 0]

I have a guy in my league that just traded Thomas Jones and Brandon Marshall for Andre Johnson. I mentioned that I would have offered Britt instead since he's hot for right now but this guy swore that Britt would wind up actually being better than Andre Johnson. I tend to be behind the curve when spotting breakout stars (traded away Miles Austin early last year for Terrell Owens) but that seems a little dramatic. What is the general consensus?

[brownsseasonticketholder 1]

I have a guy in my league that just traded Thomas Jones and Brandon Marshall for Andre Johnson. I mentioned that I would have offered Britt instead since he's hot for right now but this guy swore that Britt would wind up actually being better than Andre Johnson. I tend to be behind the curve when spotting breakout stars (traded away Miles Austin early last year for Terrell Owens) but that seems a little dramatic. What is the general consensus?

[Beyond Chaos 75]

I don't think Britt will be better, one blow-up game w/ Collins at the helm but believe when Young comes back you won't see anything like he just did. And will he be suspended for his bar fight?

[jocstrap 8]

I don't think Britt will be better, one blow-up game w/ Collins at the helm but believe when Young comes back you won't see anything like he just did. And will he be suspended for his bar fight?

 

 

Andre Johnson has never hit the 10td mark in his entire career

 

Britt has a td for the 5th consecutive week and 7 for the year 1/2 way through the season. AJ can't, nor will apparetly, be ever to make that comment. He but yardage is much more important I suppose

 

Depends on your criteria, but TD's seem to be more relevant on the scoreboard.

[Beyond Chaos 75]

Andre Johnson has never hit the 10td mark in his entire career

 

Britt has a td for the 5th consecutive week and 7 for the year 1/2 way through the season. AJ can't, nor will apparetly, be ever to make that comment. He but yardage is much more important I suppose

 

Depends on your criteria, but TD's seem to be more relevant on the scoreboard.

 

Depends on your scoring system.......I am also referring to the next 10 weeks not the past 7 so it remains to be seen...

[jocstrap 8]

Depends on your scoring system.......

 

 

who wouldn't you want the #1 WR in football? AJ gets that nod. But why the fock can't he get double digit td's?

[Beyond Chaos 75]

who wouldn't you want the #1 WR in football? AJ gets that nod. But why the fock can't he get double digit td's?

 

see above

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see above

 

 

so you edited your original statement? Of course it depends on your scoring.........and the next 10 weeks (this part you added)

 

PPR favors AJ

TD heavy favors Britt

[mobb_deep 920]

I'm not even sure I understand the question.

 

What does Britt have to do with Thomas Jones and Marshall for Johnson?

 

I would veto that quick style. not even close to fair.

[Smileseers 54]

who wouldn't you want the #1 WR in football? AJ gets that nod. But why the fock can't he get double digit td's?

 

Last year was the first season Matt Schaub played 16 games ever for the Texans. It was the first year Schaub threw for more than 15 TDs in a season. AJ had 9 TDs last year.

 

Joc, take off those homer Britt glasses, they are blurring your vision more than your photo is blurring mine. No way that Britt is in the same class as Andre Johnson right now in any format going forward.

[pimptastic69 0]

I'm not even sure I understand the question.

 

What does Britt have to do with Thomas Jones and Marshall for Johnson?

 

I would veto that quick style. not even close to fair.

 

Dumb. Hopefully you're not a commish.

[mobb_deep 920]

Dumb. Hopefully you're not a commish.

 

Whatever man. That trade is obviously unfair.

[pimptastic69 0]

Whatever man. That trade is obviously unfair.

 

For which team?

[eddude119 0]

Whatever man. That trade is obviously unfair.

 

that trade is most certainly not unfair by any means. in most 2 rb flex leagues thomas jones is at best a flex play or bye week sub and johnson is the slightly better wr of the two. the trade is without a doubt even and to say veto is absurd

[eddude119 0]

I have a guy in my league that just traded Thomas Jones and Brandon Marshall for Andre Johnson. I mentioned that I would have offered Britt instead since he's hot for right now but this guy swore that Britt would wind up actually being better than Andre Johnson. I tend to be behind the curve when spotting breakout stars (traded away Miles Austin early last year for Terrell Owens) but that seems a little dramatic. What is the general consensus?

 

to answer your question, if i were the guy offering Thomas Jones and Marshall and you came back at me with Britt i would laugh in ur face and probably not negotiate a trade offer with you again. regardless of this years numbers Johnson has proven himself to be an elite wr...whereas Britt hasnt proven anything. the only thing he has shown is that he can catch td passes from kerry collins the backup qb. cj2k will return to from and vy will be starting and britt will fade from fantasy relevance. to even think that britts name can be mentioned in the same breath as andre johnsons rite now is ridiculous

[R8RMick 242]

to answer your question, if i were the guy offering Thomas Jones and Marshall and you came back at me with Britt i would laugh in ur face and probably not negotiate a trade offer with you again. regardless of this years numbers Johnson has proven himself to be an elite wr...whereas Britt hasnt proven anything. the only thing he has shown is that he can catch td passes from kerry collins the backup qb. cj2k will return to from and vy will be starting and britt will fade from fantasy relevance. to even think that britts name can be mentioned in the same breath as andre johnsons rite now is ridiculous

 

 

Respectfully, I think Britt's value increases when Vince-o is in the game as opposed to Collins. The kid has all the physical talent that AJ has. The only thing holding back Kenny Britt is Kenny Britt. Some day he's going to figure that out, if he already hasn't.

[RLLD 4,230]

Child please.....

[PackYourNut 47]

Just an FYI...

 

Roddy White is the best FF WR!

[Flgatorguy87 160]

to answer your question, if i were the guy offering Thomas Jones and Marshall and you came back at me with Britt i would laugh in ur face and probably not negotiate a trade offer with you again. regardless of this years numbers Johnson has proven himself to be an elite wr...whereas Britt hasnt proven anything. the only thing he has shown is that he can catch td passes from kerry collins the backup qb. cj2k will return to from and vy will be starting and britt will fade from fantasy relevance. to even think that britts name can be mentioned in the same breath as andre johnsons rite now is ridiculous

 

 

You do realize that Britt has caught TD's from VY and Collins alike... While I agree that Andre Johnson is the better player hands down, the statement that "Britt will fade from fantasy relevance" is not a smart one. One other thing to remember is that Kenny Britt is still very young, in his NFL career, in his maturity, and in his age. He was the youngest player in the league last year if I remember correctly since he had just turned 20 at the start of the season. I am a titans homer, and I can tell you VY loves him some Kenny Britt, but the 225/3 week was more about what Philly was or wasn't doing on defense than it was about Collins. So don't think that Collins was the only reason he put up numbers and now has no chance of repeating with a big week unless VY goes down. VY actually throws a better deep ball than collins in my opinion, its one of the stronger points of his game, which benefits Kenny Britt. I would say he is minimum a good WR3 or borderline WR2 every week from here out, and will occasionally put up those 2 TD games because he gets so many looks in the redzone.

[eddude119 0]

You do realize that Britt has caught TD's from VY and Collins alike... While I agree that Andre Johnson is the better player hands down, the statement that "Britt will fade from fantasy relevance" is not a smart one. One other thing to remember is that Kenny Britt is still very young, in his NFL career, in his maturity, and in his age. He was the youngest player in the league last year if I remember correctly since he had just turned 20 at the start of the season. I am a titans homer, and I can tell you VY loves him some Kenny Britt, but the 225/3 week was more about what Philly was or wasn't doing on defense than it was about Collins. So don't think that Collins was the only reason he put up numbers and now has no chance of repeating with a big week unless VY goes down. VY actually throws a better deep ball than collins in my opinion, its one of the stronger points of his game, which benefits Kenny Britt. I would say he is minimum a good WR3 or borderline WR2 every week from here out, and will occasionally put up those 2 TD games because he gets so many looks in the redzone.

 

ok u right i was a bit harsh on that rant. As a jersey guy i know that britt is as talented as any wr in the nfl. the guy was taken out of rutgers first round before he was even of age to drink at a bar. i know he catch passes from whomever throws him the ball but lets be real andre johnson has proven himself to be the best wr in the league. Im not doubting that Britt can outproduce him but from a fantasy standpoint andre plays for a team that can throw the ball, he was the leading wr last year with over 1500 and britt was the titans leading wr with slightly over 700 yards. if you can pull the wool over this guys eyes go for it but as a long time ff player i would never give up an elite wr like marshall and thomas jones for kenny britt

[JTB 52]

Whatever man. That trade is obviously unfair.

 

 

We are still waiting for who gets jobbed in this trade. Frankly, I can't decipher who I'd rather have?

 

About as even as a trade can get.

 

Wait, you are a Liberal so the idea of someone getting 2 of something for 1 is your problem. I got it!

[Tuggernuts 0]

I'm not even sure I understand the question.

 

What does Britt have to do with Thomas Jones and Marshall for Johnson?

 

I would veto that quick style. not even close to fair.

 

Wow. No way that trade should be vetoed.

[jocstrap 8]

Last year was the first season Matt Schaub played 16 games ever for the Texans. It was the first year Schaub threw for more than 15 TDs in a season. AJ had 9 TDs last year.

 

Joc, take off those homer Britt glasses, they are blurring your vision more than your photo is blurring mine. No way that Britt is in the same class as Andre Johnson right now in any format going forward.

 

I know AJ is a phenom. I just wonder why he can never break that 10td barrier - that's all. Britt is on a roll right now though

Personally, I would take AJ over Britt all day, any day.

[mobb_deep 920]

We are still waiting for who gets jobbed in this trade. Frankly, I can't decipher who I'd rather have?

 

About as even as a trade can get.

 

Wait, you are a Liberal so the idea of someone getting 2 of something for 1 is your problem. I got it!

 

It's pretty obvious. If you don't know who got ripped off in that trade, then can I join your league please?

 

Also, I'm Libertarian. Big difference guy.

[JTB 52]

It's pretty obvious. If you don't know who got ripped off in that trade, then can I join your league please?

 

Also, I'm Libertarian. Big difference guy.

 

 

There are others who want you to state who gets screwed. Just state your opinion please.

[mobb_deep 920]

When the trade is that screwy, there really isn't any need.

 

If we were trading $10 for $12, rosters matter. But not when someone is trading $3 for $25.

[bsong 0]

When the trade is that screwy, there really isn't any need.

 

If we were trading $10 for $12, rosters matter. But not when someone is trading $3 for $25.

 

Interesting. This is a common tactic when someone is reluctant to back a critique with an actual stance.

 

Clearly, he thinks it's a better trade for the person getting Andre, but why not back it up? Why just call everyone stupid?

 

See, I would take Andre, but that's not even close to a veto. Vetoes are for people who favor excessive government intervention.

 

How could a true Libertarian possibly be so eager to support government intervention?

[mobb_deep 920]

Interesting. This is a common tactic when someone is reluctant to back a critique with an actual stance.

 

Clearly, he thinks it's a better trade for the person getting Andre, but why not back it up? Why just call everyone stupid?

 

See, I would take Andre, but that's not even close to a veto. Vetoes are for people who favor excessive government intervention.

 

How could a true Libertarian possibly be so eager to support government intervention?

 

If you were a Fantasy Football Expert like I am, you'd see why the trade was unfair. Yes, you'll probably even wise up after seeing this weekends games.

 

In all seriousness, the reality is that too many people like to use the crutch phrase "no collusion equals no veto". That's fine and dandy for cut throat leagues that are all about ripping off the one girl in the league or the guy in the league that doesn't know anything about football. Granted the problem solves itself because the player will feel taken advantage of and not be back next season, but whatever cuz you got yours.

 

But most people play FF because it's a good time and maybe there are a few bucks on the line to make it more interesting. But if the goal is to have a fun league, vetoes are valid and they are necessary. Trades like the one in this thread are the exact reason why.

[pimptastic69 0]

If you were a Fantasy Football Expert like I am, you'd see why the trade was unfair. Yes, you'll probably even wise up after seeing this weekends games.

 

In all seriousness, the reality is that too many people like to use the crutch phrase "no collusion equals no veto". That's fine and dandy for cut throat leagues that are all about ripping off the one girl in the league or the guy in the league that doesn't know anything about football. Granted the problem solves itself because the player will feel taken advantage of and not be back next season, but whatever cuz you got yours.

 

But most people play FF because it's a good time and maybe there are a few bucks on the line to make it more interesting. But if the goal is to have a fun league, vetoes are valid and they are necessary. Trades like the one in this thread are the exact reason why.

 

 

So, which team got the shaft?

[JTB 52]

If you were a Fantasy Football Expert like I am, you'd see why the trade was unfair. Yes, you'll probably even wise up after seeing this weekends games.

 

In all seriousness, the reality is that too many people like to use the crutch phrase "no collusion equals no veto". That's fine and dandy for cut throat leagues that are all about ripping off the one girl in the league or the guy in the league that doesn't know anything about football. Granted the problem solves itself because the player will feel taken advantage of and not be back next season, but whatever cuz you got yours.

 

But most people play FF because it's a good time and maybe there are a few bucks on the line to make it more interesting. But if the goal is to have a fun league, vetoes are valid and they are necessary. Trades like the one in this thread are the exact reason why.

 

 

Still waiting?

[bsong 0]

If you were a Fantasy Football Expert like I am, you'd see why the trade was unfair. Yes, you'll probably even wise up after seeing this weekends games.

 

In all seriousness, the reality is that too many people like to use the crutch phrase "no collusion equals no veto". That's fine and dandy for cut throat leagues that are all about ripping off the one girl in the league or the guy in the league that doesn't know anything about football. Granted the problem solves itself because the player will feel taken advantage of and not be back next season, but whatever cuz you got yours.

 

But most people play FF because it's a good time and maybe there are a few bucks on the line to make it more interesting. But if the goal is to have a fun league, vetoes are valid and they are necessary. Trades like the one in this thread are the exact reason why.

 

I am not a Fantasy Football Expert. I am a Fantasy Football Deity! Keep at it and you will eventually ascend to my status.

 

I agree with you that that there is a clear side to that trade that I'd rather have. But I really am a Libertarian, and admittedly it bothers me when other people claim to be Libertarian and then jump at the chance to have government intervention when they like what the government is doing (and are Libertarian only when the government is interfering with THEM). I never said that vetoes should be reserved for collusion alone, and I agree with you on that point. If you had not said you were Libertarian, I would just assume that you are in fact someone who favors active government (commissioner) intervention, which is fine if that's the league that you want to create.

 

Even you have to admit that your tone is condescending, no? I think it's intentional. But then, why bother posting here if your goal is to chastise other people? I think most people here are looking for meaningful discussion.

 

I'm not in any league with inexperienced football people. Yes, in such a league, the government should be more active and non-libertarian in looking out for the weaker hands. But in my league, people are all very experienced. We don't need the government to solve all our problems and can instead let the free market work. In my league, that trade would never get vetoed, and in fact a lot of worse trades go through because people are actually pretty savvy. Someone just traded Romo for Britt & Orton 2 weeks ago - the kind of trade that would get catcalls no doubt. But he's a smart player - he follows Dallas closely and knows they've had some serious protection problems, including a willingness to put in rookies against likely blitz packages.

 

So, in short - if you want to contribute to the discussion by offering a view on the trade, fine. But if you somehow just feel smarter by telling everyone that they're so stupid they should see what's obvious, then have at it. As a Libertarian, I fully embrace your right to express yourself.

[mobb_deep 920]

Still waiting?

 

I don't know what this even means, but I'm not named JTB.

 

But here is what you need to realize. The trade was in fact needing to be vetoed. It happened and it was wrong. You are the one trying to claim that was actually happened isn't what should have happened, thus the burden is on you.

 

Similar to if you were to claim the Patriots deserved to beat the Jets last weekend and I said the Jets deserved to win. Well, they actually won, thus the burden is on you to explain why the Patriots deserved to win.

[pimptastic69 0]

I am not a Fantasy Football Expert. I am a Fantasy Football Deity! Keep at it and you will eventually ascend to my status.

 

I agree with you that that there is a clear side to that trade that I'd rather have. But I really am a Libertarian, and admittedly it bothers me when other people claim to be Libertarian and then jump at the chance to have government intervention when they like what the government is doing (and are Libertarian only when the government is interfering with THEM). I never said that vetoes should be reserved for collusion alone, and I agree with you on that point. If you had not said you were Libertarian, I would just assume that you are in fact someone who favors active government (commissioner) intervention, which is fine if that's the league that you want to create.

 

Even you have to admit that your tone is condescending, no? I think it's intentional. But then, why bother posting here if your goal is to chastise other people? I think most people here are looking for meaningful discussion.

 

I'm not in any league with inexperienced football people. Yes, in such a league, the government should be more active and non-libertarian in looking out for the weaker hands. But in my league, people are all very experienced. We don't need the government to solve all our problems and can instead let the free market work. In my league, that trade would never get vetoed, and in fact a lot of worse trades go through because people are actually pretty savvy. Someone just traded Romo for Britt & Orton 2 weeks ago - the kind of trade that would get catcalls no doubt. But he's a smart player - he follows Dallas closely and knows they've had some serious protection problems, including a willingness to put in rookies against likely blitz packages.

 

So, in short - if you want to contribute to the discussion by offering a view on the trade, fine. But if you somehow just feel smarter by telling everyone that they're so stupid they should see what's obvious, then have at it. As a Libertarian, I fully embrace your right to express yourself.

 

Give him a break...he lives in California.

[bsong 0]

I don't know what this even means, but I'm not named JTB.

 

But here is what you need to realize. The trade was in fact needing to be vetoed. It happened and it was wrong. You are the one trying to claim that was actually happened isn't what should have happened, thus the burden is on you.

 

Similar to if you were to claim the Patriots deserved to beat the Jets last weekend and I said the Jets deserved to win. Well, they actually won, thus the burden is on you to explain why the Patriots deserved to win.

 

I'm honestly curious, who do you think got the better deal? I already said that I think the person who got Andre got the better deal. Just my opinion.

 

If you think it's "needing to be vetoed," then you must think that someone got the better deal. I am assuming you agree with me, because, I am in fact a Fantasy Football Deity. (But still working on becoming FF God Level.)

[bsong 0]

Give him a break...he lives in California.

 

LOL. So do most of my family. That just makes me like him more.

[mobb_deep 920]

LOL. So do most of my family. That just makes me like him more.

 

A trade doesn't have to be $10 for $10. $10 for $8 is ok. Sometimes $40 for $35 is even ok. But $15 for $40 trades should always be vetoed.

[travis_henrys_baby_momma 10]

From beginning to end this thread is full of FAIL. Wow.

[JTB 52]

I don't know what this even means, but I'm not named JTB.

 

But here is what you need to realize. The trade was in fact needing to be vetoed. It happened and it was wrong. You are the one trying to claim that was actually happened isn't what should have happened, thus the burden is on you.

 

Similar to if you were to claim the Patriots deserved to beat the Jets last weekend and I said the Jets deserved to win. Well, they actually won, thus the burden is on you to explain why the Patriots deserved to win.

 

 

 

[mobb_deep 920]

 

You keep saying "the large majority thought it was not" lopsided, but I only counted 2 people in this thread actually saying it shouldn't be vetoed.

 

Pretty sure if you made a poll and you laid out your argument why it was fair, and I laid out my argument for why it needs to be vetoed, the results would be pretty close. The fact that I already voted to veto it should be evidence enough of that.

[mobb_deep 920]

Dumb. Hopefully you're not a commish.

 

And if I'm the commish, I can just over rule a decision made by the league, then THAT is a league you should want to play in.

 

Can the commish also change the scoring system whenever he wants despite what the league as a whole decided? Damn right he can. I do it all the time.