IAMWood 6 Posted May 26, 2011 I think programs like Social Security are called "entitlements" because you have a guaranteed right to them, by law. Am I wrong that the term "entitlement" is portrayed in a negative light? Or am I just being sensitive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted May 26, 2011 Am I wrong that the term "entitlement" is portrayed in a negative light? Or am I just being sensitive? No I agree, it definitely is. Usually whenever someone uses the word "entitled" it is in reference to a person who thinks they deserve something for no good reason. Like an entitled rich kid who expects everything to be handed to him on a silver spoon even though he's never done anything useful in his entire life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted May 26, 2011 No I agree, it definitely is. Usually whenever someone uses the word "entitled" it is in reference to a person who thinks they deserve something for no good reason. Like an entitled rich kid who expects everything to be handed to him on a silver spoon even though he's never done anything useful in his entire life. Yeah, homedude is all worried about him accepting his entitled healthcare benefit. That is troublesome to me when so much money is wasted/stolen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted May 26, 2011 If you serve in the mitary you earned any benefits that come your way. Porch hangars drinking 40s all day waiting on uncle Sam"s check every month that think they are " entitled" to it do not deserve it. Huuuuge difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted May 26, 2011 If you serve in the mitary you earned any benefits that come your way. Porch hangars drinking 40s all day waiting on uncle Sam"s check every month that think they are " entitled" to it do not deserve it. Huuuuge difference This is my mindset as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted May 26, 2011 Yeah, I'm not sure who cralled up this JTB dudes crack, but he's gone wacko. If anybody derserves a so called 'entitlement' its the military or ex military. I agree they should get the free stuff. I was asking why it was sooooooo important for Mung to be so cavalier about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted May 26, 2011 If you serve in the mitary you earned any benefits that come your way. Porch hangars drinking 40s all day waiting on uncle Sam"s check every month that think they are " entitled" to it do not deserve it. Huuuuge difference Wouldn't one be a racist for not including 40-drinking porch-protectors? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted May 26, 2011 Wouldn't one be a racist for not including 40-drinking porch-protectors? Of course. But I'm a middle aged white guy, so I have to be a racist anyway, right? Might as well save a little cash in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,980 Posted May 26, 2011 Regarding the overall general philosophical question. Like most things, it depends. I like a government that does in fact use the collectve will of the people (taxes) to help provide a 'safety net' for those in certain situations. The problem arises that the way these 'safety nets' are implemented is usually not cost effective. It usually has loopholes the size of OldMaid's underwear. And it usually leads to simply more dependence on the gov't as it is not run properly. So, to be honest, I don't know the right answer. Here's an answer. Don't give people money. It's the equivalent of seeing a homeless guy on the street begging and just handing him money. You have no idea whether he'll use it on surviving, like for food, or for a bottle of Whiskey. So the smart thing in that situation is to give him a sub from subway instead. Then you can be reasonably sure he's getting something beneficial from you instead of wasteful. So I propose not giving people money. Set up shelters than anyone is welcome to come stay at as long as they need. In big warehouse buildings. Beds aplenty, separated by sheets or something similar. Not great accommodations but more than adequate to get by. Per person it's much cheaper than giving Laqueesha welfare for an apartment. Since you're saving a boatload of money and have everyone in the same place you can provide other services onsite to help them - basic health care, basic work training that you can coordinate with community needs, basic life training like money management skills, and all sorts of other things. This also takes out the distinction between those who need it and those who don't. By making it not so comfortable as having your own place you create an incentive for people to want to get out. For those incapable of working for whatever reason they can stay as long as they want/need. There are other nuances and variations on this that I've thought about but you get the picture. The bottom line is don't give people cash. I mean, people on welfare have shown an inability to care for themselves. Why is giving them cash a good idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted May 26, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sutu1ku50H8&feature=player_embedded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted May 26, 2011 But our monthly income has nothing to do with being a veteran. 85% of our income comes from government sources and my wife and I are both healthy and able to work. Does anyone have a problem with this? I do! Then why are you doing it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted May 26, 2011 Then why are you doing it? If I choose not to take these payments it would not change anything so it would be pretty stupid not to take them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
