I just can't get into Breaking Bad

[redtodd 7]

I have no seen all the episodes. I love the show, though at times I think I would be cool with them killing Jessie. He can be annoying at times.

[kutulu 1,661]

I have no seen all the episodes. I love the show, though at times I think I would be cool with them killing Jessie. He can be annoying at times.

 

Hey, man, I'm slingin' mad volume and fat stackin' benjis, you know what I'm sayin'? I can't be all about, like, not annoying you and sh1t, b1tch!!. YO!

[TD Ryan2 316]

Jessie is an interesting character - he's introduced to us as a low life, a failure really, and an unlikable one at that; he's the epitomy of a punk. But as the show develops, we eventually see that Jessie is pretty damn talented, smart, empathetic, loyal, etc - Jessie may actually be "better" than Walter White - "better" as in more "good", more "pure", "innocent", "honest", and maybe even braver and tougher.

 

The whole Walt vs. Jessie dynamic makes a sweeping observation about social economics and how disadvantaged poor kids are - whoda' thunk Jessie was better than Walt when we first met "Captain Cook"? Whoda' thunk Jessie was more of an assett to society than Walt? Walt is the guy who's had every opportunity from his social class (upper middle?) to his education and god-given brains - yet he is a failure - insignificant in society until he becomes Heisenberg and subsequently VERY significant for all the wrong reasons.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Jessie is an interesting character - he's introduced to us as a low life, a failure really, and an unlikable one at that; he's the epitomy of a punk. But as the show develops, we eventually see that Jessie is pretty damn talented, smart, empathetic, loyal, etc - Jessie may actually be "better" than Walter White - "better" as in more "good", more "pure", "innocent", "honest", and maybe even braver and tougher.

 

The whole Walt vs. Jessie dynamic makes a sweeping observation about social economics and how disadvantaged poor kids are - whoda' thunk Jessie was better than Walt when we first met "Captain Cook"? Whoda' thunk Jessie was more of an assett to society than Walt? Walt is the guy who's had every opportunity from his social class (upper middle?) to his education and god-given brains - yet he is a failure - insignificant in society until he becomes Heisenberg and subsequently VERY significant for all the wrong reasons.

 

You do realize Jessy was from a very yuppie WASP type upper class family, right? From what I've observed, Walt has always been low-middle class. He almost made it, but dropped out of that one company and became an underachieving high school teacher.

 

The show is really all about his pride. He has spent his life getting stepped on and grossly underachieving. He continues not for his family(though he likes to tell himself that) he does it for the pride, to show everyone how great he is and how powerful he can be.

[OldMaid 2,130]

Does anybody's besides me want to see Skylar die a slow, horrible, agonizing death? I swear she is the most ungrateful ###### to ever grace a tv screen.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Does anybody's besides me want to see Skylar die a slow, horrible, agonizing death? I swear she is the most ungrateful ###### to ever grace a tv screen.

 

First off, I think you're the first chick I know of that watches BB

 

Secondly, meh, I wouldn't mind seeing it. But her character goes with the great writing of the show. I think her biggest issue with everything is not being in control. Though her biggest reason for doing everything IS family, she is one of those chicks who has to be in control of everything. She thought by running the car wash and being in control of the money would give her some control/handle of everything, but she realizes now she has none.

 

I actually thought she was great last season. Her freak out on Marie was both awesome(because that's what everyone wants to say to Marie) and hard to watch. Anna Gunn does a good job, she doesn't really get recognized because of all the other really strong actors on the show. Cranston/Paul together might be the best acting duo ever on a TV series, they're both almost flawless in their performance which is why they have both won awards.

 

I also don't think the going from house to house thing will last long. That is a more complicated version of the RV. It will be good for now, but Walt won't be satisfied with 150k/week for long. I think they will create a bigger, permanent lab so they can yield 2-300+lbs a week. Before the first half of the season ends, I believe they will find it and they will be bringing in close to a mill a week. Walt wants to prove he can beat Gus, Jessy has the right idea but Walt is never satisfied.

[TD Ryan2 316]

another solid episode... we wanted more Heisenberg, we've got it, and it's the worst possible thing for Walt, his family, and I assume, shortly, the entire show.

 

Walt is so horrible now that he's made Skylar a sympathetic figure. And based on the previews for next week, we will continue to see just how low Walt will go and just how conflicted Skylar, Jessie, etal will be as they tag along with him on this path.

 

The scene with the Heisenberg Hat and then the two cars represents the final descent for Walt... it's going to be very interesting the rest of the way watching him sit atop the crimelord mountain, and I expect that unlike in past seasons, we will almost enjoy it when he comes back down (or rather is "brought" back down).

[OldMaid 2,130]

another solid episode... we wanted more Heisenberg, we've got it, and it's the worst possible thing for Walt, his family, and I assume, shortly, the entire show.

 

Walt is so horrible now that he's made Skylar a sympathetic figure. And based on the previews for next week, we will continue to see just how low Walt will go and just how conflicted Skylar, Jessie, etal will be as they tag along with him on this path.

 

The scene with the Heisenberg Hat and then the two cars represents the final descent for Walt... it's going to be very interesting the rest of the way watching him sit atop the crimelord mountain, and I expect that unlike in past seasons, we will almost enjoy it when he comes back down (or rather is "brought" back down).

 

Good write up as usual, TD... with one exception: Skylar will never be sympathetic in my book. She's never been very supportive of Walt, or even one iota of thankful for anything he's done. She even used HIS money to keep Beneke and herself out of hot water AFTER focking around on Walt with him. She's the epitome of cuntiness IMO and I hate her as a character. She needs to go...

[parrot 789]

Good write up as usual, TD... with one exception: Skylar will never be sympathetic in my book. She's never been very supportive of Walt, or even one iota of thankful for anything he's done. She even used HIS money to keep Beneke and herself out of hot water AFTER focking around on Walt with him. She's the epitome of cuntiness IMO and I hate her as a character. She needs to go...

 

[parrot 789]

another solid episode... we wanted more Heisenberg, we've got it, and it's the worst possible thing for Walt, his family, and I assume, shortly, the entire show.

 

Walt is so horrible now that he's made Skylar a sympathetic figure. And based on the previews for next week, we will continue to see just how low Walt will go and just how conflicted Skylar, Jessie, etal will be as they tag along with him on this path.

 

The scene with the Heisenberg Hat and then the two cars represents the final descent for Walt... it's going to be very interesting the rest of the way watching him sit atop the crimelord mountain, and I expect that unlike in past seasons, we will almost enjoy it when he comes back down (or rather is "brought" back down).

 

 

The debate over killing Lydia was interesting; it was pretty clear Walt didn't give one fock if she lived or died as long as the precursor kept flowing. He's not fighting many internal moral or ethical battles at this point.

[TD Ryan2 316]

Yeah - I don't care for her either - but that's kinda the point - Walt has "outskylared" Skylar. He's just a manipulative, maniacle, ego maniac.

And her acting was on par with the Edie Falco stuff from Sopranos - with the shut ups last week and now the waiting for the cancer this week she's put on an amazing performance.

In her confrontation with Walt we hated Walt the way we hate the oh-so-slick attorney that corners and burys his witness - Walt found his stride and finally put confidence together with his brilliant mind and he's smugly one (2, 3?) steps ahead of everyone including Skylar.

Walt started down this path to save his family - he has clearly failed no matter how successful he becomes as meth kingpin.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

This thread is about how much Breaking Bad sucks, dammit

[kutulu 1,661]

This thread is about how much Breaking Bad sucks, dammit

 

Maybe you don't appreciate quality entertainment.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Maybe you don't appreciate quality entertainment.

 

[OldMaid 2,130]

One of the best awkward dinner scenes, EVAH!

 

I know I say this very week, but... please, please, PUH-LEASE can't Skylar die?

 

Also, it really sucks that there are only two episodes left this season.

[Giants Fan 85]

Jessie is an interesting character - he's introduced to us as a low life, a failure really, and an unlikable one at that; he's the epitomy of a punk. But as the show develops, we eventually see that Jessie is pretty damn talented, smart, empathetic, loyal, etc - Jessie may actually be "better" than Walter White - "better" as in more "good", more "pure", "innocent", "honest", and maybe even braver and tougher.

 

The whole Walt vs. Jessie dynamic makes a sweeping observation about social economics and how disadvantaged poor kids are - whoda' thunk Jessie was better than Walt when we first met "Captain Cook"? Whoda' thunk Jessie was more of an assett to society than Walt? Walt is the guy who's had every opportunity from his social class (upper middle?) to his education and god-given brains - yet he is a failure - insignificant in society until he becomes Heisenberg and subsequently VERY significant for all the wrong reasons.

 

 

I think what you have is Walt, pretty much giving in to the dark said. Here you have this guy that worked hard, was smart, made all the right choices and found himself dying young. Well, relatively young. And because of his pride, he now finds himself where he is, but all of a sudden everything is clicking. Everything is working. Now $5 mil isn't enough, where Jessie still has his whole life ahead of him, cops are onto them, seems like a great time to cash out. Jessie wants freedom, Walt wants power.

 

So yeah, maybe at first everything points to Jessie being the bad guy, but he's likely got more "good" in him than anyone else on the show, besides the crippled kid.

 

Great show. Can't wait to see what happens next.

[CantTouchThis 23]

One of the best awkward dinner scenes, EVAH!

 

I know I say this very week, but... please, please, PUH-LEASE can't Skylar die?

 

Also, it really sucks that there are only two episodes left this season.

 

Not a big fan of them splitting the final season up, but oh well.

 

And yeah, the dunner seen was really bad, but just all part of Walt's plan.

[kutulu 1,661]

Not a big fan of them splitting the final season up, but oh well.

 

 

 

I wasn't at first either but football will take it's place and zombies will be back soon....plus it's something to look forward to. Top to bottom, acting, writing, filming, etc my favorite show ever....I'm pretty sure

[TD Ryan2 316]

One of the best awkward dinner scenes, EVAH!

 

I know I say this very week, but... please, please, PUH-LEASE can't Skylar die?

 

Also, it really sucks that there are only two episodes left this season.

F'n UNBELIEVABLE... that was one of the best scenes ever on television.

Even the way the cameras where used to shoot it... a Triangle with Skylar (left), Jessie (top/center), and Walt (right)... Jessie is the focal point - he's the only one left with any goodness and he's really become the only one we can root for now - an inadvertent protagonist maybe - and Skylar's casually dropped bomb, "soooo...what else did Walt tell you about me... did he tell you about my affair?"

 

Jessie is the innocent one here, he's the last one with any hint of a moral compass left - listening to him stammer and stumble with his inappropriate conversation style was so telling - Jessie's desperation, his desire to want things good/right for everyone, and his complete failure at it was just perfectly written and acted.

 

So, Walt is in the EMPIRE business... Jessie's plea to cash out and remember the beginning and the $750k goal really helped us see exactly what's gone wrong with Walt. Our pasts shape us - whether it's the girl who was unpopular in HS and now want to be PTA mom of the year with her kids school - or the cop who was bullied as a kid and now is a bully cop - or the young academian who had a great idea but sold it off b/c he felt jilted by the girl he first kissed... Walt's anger over losing MegaCorp. is understandable, but it's poisoned him more than any cancer could. Is there any viewer out there that doesn't want to see Walt/Jessie/Mike take their money and get out? Is there anyone who wouldn't take that option?

 

And Walt now has his own patented body disposal method too... we all knew right away what was going on with the bike and kid once we saw those barrels - it was Walters' clean up technique - adn you KNOW you're a bad guy when you become that proficient/efficent at disposing of 14 year old kids and their bikes while the TV is breaking stories about the missing kid.

 

So here's the scorecard for me:

Walter - he's rotten to the core, a good apple gone bad and fully poisoned both physically and mentally.

 

Skylar - a complete c@nt, and now not only a c@nt but a spineless bi@tch that can't lay in the bed she made (literally)

 

Mike - I respect Mike, but he's rotten too. A throwback to what a "real" criminal should be, to what organized crime should be with a full measure of loyalty/code/honor/and bloodshed, brutality.

 

Hank & Marie - not "evil" like Walt and Skylar, but dislikable nontheless b/c they're so focking stupid, if they had half a brain, maybe they'd be evil.

 

Jessie - the new protagonist for me, I want Jessie to come out of this as OK as possible. I want to believe that Jessie can still make something good of himself. Is Jessie the same dirtbag he was when I hated his "Captain Cook" but now he's surrounded by such evil that he looks better? Or has Jessie really improved? I don't know, but he's clearly the best person left and I guess I hope he gets out with a new start on life.

 

EDIT: one more note... Walt's transformation is complete now, I know this b/c I do respect him, I do fear him a bit. Two examples of this:

1. Walt sitting in his chair Godfather style when he asked/told Jessie to stay for dinner - it was the epitome of a "boss".

2. Mike tieing up Walt, Just like with archetypical "real" bad guys, I'm thinking, "Mike, you can't just tie him up, you have to kill him to stop him".

Walt has respect now, but he's lost EVERYTHING else in the process.

[OldMaid 2,130]

F'n UNBELIEVABLE... that was one of the best scenes ever on television.

Even the way the cameras where used to shoot it... a Triangle with Skylar (left), Jessie (top/center), and Walt (right)... Jessie is the focal point - he's the only one left with any goodness and he's really become the only one we can root for now - an inadvertent protagonist maybe - and Skylar's casually dropped bomb, "soooo...what else did Walt tell you about me... did he tell you about my affair?"

 

Jessie is the innocent one here, he's the last one with any hint of a moral compass left - listening to him stammer and stumble with his inappropriate conversation style was so telling - Jessie's desperation, his desire to want things good/right for everyone, and his complete failure at it was just perfectly written and acted.

 

So, Walt is in the EMPIRE business... Jessie's plea to cash out and remember the beginning and the $750k goal really helped us see exactly what's gone wrong with Walt. Our pasts shape us - whether it's the girl who was unpopular in HS and now want to be PTA mom of the year with her kids school - or the cop who was bullied as a kid and now is a bully cop - or the young academian who had a great idea but sold it off b/c he felt jilted by the girl he first kissed... Walt's anger over losing MegaCorp. is understandable, but it's poisoned him more than any cancer could. Is there any viewer out there that doesn't want to see Walt/Jessie/Mike take their money and get out? Is there anyone who wouldn't take that option?

 

And Walt now has his own patented body disposal method too... we all knew right away what was going on with the bike and kid once we saw those barrels - it was Walters' clean up technique - adn you KNOW you're a bad guy when you become that proficient/efficent at disposing of 14 year old kids and their bikes while the TV is breaking stories about the missing kid.

 

So here's the scorecard for me:

Walter - he's rotten to the core, a good apple gone bad and fully poisoned both physically and mentally.

 

Skylar - a complete c@nt, and now not only a c@nt but a spineless bi@tch that can't lay in the bed she made (literally)

 

Mike - I respect Mike, but he's rotten too. A throwback to what a "real" criminal should be, to what organized crime should be with a full measure of loyalty/code/honor/and bloodshed, brutality.

 

Hank & Marie - not "evil" like Walt and Skylar, but dislikable nontheless b/c they're so focking stupid, if they had half a brain, maybe they'd be evil.

 

Jessie - the new protagonist for me, I want Jessie to come out of this as OK as possible. I want to believe that Jessie can still make something good of himself. Is Jessie the same dirtbag he was when I hated his "Captain Cook" but now he's surrounded by such evil that he looks better? Or has Jessie really improved? I don't know, but he's clearly the best person left and I guess I hope he gets out with a new start on life.

 

EDIT: one more note... Walt's transformation is complete now, I know this b/c I do respect him, I do fear him a bit. Two examples of this:

1. Walt sitting in his chair Godfather style when he asked/told Jessie to stay for dinner - it was the epitome of a "boss".

2. Mike tieing up Walt, Just like with archetypical "real" bad guys, I'm thinking, "Mike, you can't just tie him up, you have to kill him to stop him".

Walt has respect now, but he's lost EVERYTHING else in the process.

 

Yep...

 

Not much else to say after this perfectly said write-up.

[CantTouchThis 23]

F'n UNBELIEVABLE... that was one of the best scenes ever on television.

Even the way the cameras where used to shoot it... a Triangle with Skylar (left), Jessie (top/center), and Walt (right)... Jessie is the focal point - he's the only one left with any goodness and he's really become the only one we can root for now - an inadvertent protagonist maybe - and Skylar's casually dropped bomb, "soooo...what else did Walt tell you about me... did he tell you about my affair?"

 

Jessie is the innocent one here, he's the last one with any hint of a moral compass left - listening to him stammer and stumble with his inappropriate conversation style was so telling - Jessie's desperation, his desire to want things good/right for everyone, and his complete failure at it was just perfectly written and acted.

 

So, Walt is in the EMPIRE business... Jessie's plea to cash out and remember the beginning and the $750k goal really helped us see exactly what's gone wrong with Walt. Our pasts shape us - whether it's the girl who was unpopular in HS and now want to be PTA mom of the year with her kids school - or the cop who was bullied as a kid and now is a bully cop - or the young academian who had a great idea but sold it off b/c he felt jilted by the girl he first kissed... Walt's anger over losing MegaCorp. is understandable, but it's poisoned him more than any cancer could. Is there any viewer out there that doesn't want to see Walt/Jessie/Mike take their money and get out? Is there anyone who wouldn't take that option?

 

And Walt now has his own patented body disposal method too... we all knew right away what was going on with the bike and kid once we saw those barrels - it was Walters' clean up technique - adn you KNOW you're a bad guy when you become that proficient/efficent at disposing of 14 year old kids and their bikes while the TV is breaking stories about the missing kid.

 

So here's the scorecard for me:

Walter - he's rotten to the core, a good apple gone bad and fully poisoned both physically and mentally.

 

Skylar - a complete c@nt, and now not only a c@nt but a spineless bi@tch that can't lay in the bed she made (literally)

 

Mike - I respect Mike, but he's rotten too. A throwback to what a "real" criminal should be, to what organized crime should be with a full measure of loyalty/code/honor/and bloodshed, brutality.

 

Hank & Marie - not "evil" like Walt and Skylar, but dislikable nontheless b/c they're so focking stupid, if they had half a brain, maybe they'd be evil.

 

Jessie - the new protagonist for me, I want Jessie to come out of this as OK as possible. I want to believe that Jessie can still make something good of himself. Is Jessie the same dirtbag he was when I hated his "Captain Cook" but now he's surrounded by such evil that he looks better? Or has Jessie really improved? I don't know, but he's clearly the best person left and I guess I hope he gets out with a new start on life.

 

EDIT: one more note... Walt's transformation is complete now, I know this b/c I do respect him, I do fear him a bit. Two examples of this:

1. Walt sitting in his chair Godfather style when he asked/told Jessie to stay for dinner - it was the epitome of a "boss".

2. Mike tieing up Walt, Just like with archetypical "real" bad guys, I'm thinking, "Mike, you can't just tie him up, you have to kill him to stop him".

Walt has respect now, but he's lost EVERYTHING else in the process.

 

 

Walt is the embodiment of bad and evil now. I'm now convinced he would give up his family to create this empire he has envisioned. He has crossed over to the dark side, and it took his wife to nudge him over the edge.

 

It's always been about his pride and gaining respect. From the first episode on, we could see this. Cancer was the excuse, and his reasoning was his family, but, in the end, it was always because of the pride.

 

He's definitely got it now, and now that he doesn't have a shred of decency, anyone in his way will feel his wrath.

[TD Ryan2 316]

So - it brings us full circle to this question(s):

What are we rooting for?

What do you want to see happen?

 

for me, I guess I'm still kinda' rooting for Walt... it's like rooting for Jason in Friday 13th (maybe?)... or maybe it's like rooting for any Sopranos/Pacino type criminal?

Walt is a monster, but the guys he's going against are not much better - these new drug dealers? even Hank and the cops? I root for Walt against them.

 

and I don't know what next week's "meeting" will be but Heisenberg is gonna' be p!ssed when those guy's call the product "Fringe's Blue" again - it's Walt's blue and he won't like it much if you don't respect it.

 

Junior and Jessie are the only "good" guys left... but I don't even really know what I want for them.

[parrot 789]

Finally got caught up on the DVR. Another good episode. Good comments TD.

 

I'm glad we got a little more of the Grey Matter stuff to help better understand what really makes Walt tick. It's not at all about taking care of his family at this point. He could do that pretty well with $5m as Jesse pointed out. I wonder if we will get any more on it, or if that was it? I would really like to get the whole back-story.

 

Loved the dinner scene, Aaron Paul was fantastic throughout. Cracked me up.

 

I also thought the scene with Walt whistling presumably just hours after disposing of a child's body was pretty great. It makes it clear to us, and Jesse hopefully, just how far bad Walt has broken. It also makes it clear that a meth-lab is now Walt's happy-place. There was a ton of implication in that little 30 second scene. Just some great writing.

 

I had a couple issues with the episode of course; "no half-measures" Mike cuffing one of Walt's hands to a radiator with a plastic cuff seemed a little dumb and half-measurish. Also, I thought it was pretty common knowledge that the DEA was on Mike and thus Walt bugging Hank's office? Maybe it was just a preventative measure, but the whole think seemed a little forced.

 

For me the story is not really about Walt anymore, it's about Jesse. I want Jesse to kill Walt in the end, for all the things he's done to him, and taken from him, most of which he doesn't even know about. This HAS to happen; anything else won't feel right to me. Then Jesse walks away clean Clarence Worley style (ETA: Mr. PINK style ) , with the girl and fat stacks of cash, leaving Hank holding his d!ck.

 

I can also see Jesse taking care of Walt's family anonymously, because he is essentially a very decent guy, and the whole think coming full-circle and fulfilling Walt's original goal.

[kutulu 1,661]

Even pros make mistakes.

[nobody 2,586]

So - it brings us full circle to this question(s):

What are we rooting for?

What do you want to see happen?

 

for me, I guess I'm still kinda' rooting for Walt... it's like rooting for Jason in Friday 13th (maybe?)... or maybe it's like rooting for any Sopranos/Pacino type criminal?

Walt is a monster, but the guys he's going against are not much better - these new drug dealers? even Hank and the cops? I root for Walt against them.

 

 

I'm not rooting for Walt so much as I'm rooting against the DEA and The Man.

[parrot 789]

Even pros make mistakes.

 

Yeah, but come on, Mike had ALL NIGHT to make a plan, and that's what he came up with? I realize Walt HAD to get loose plot-wise, but I think they could have made it a little more believable.

[parrot 789]

I also thought the scene with Walt whistling presumably just hours after disposing of a child's body was pretty great. It makes it clear to us, and Jesse hopefully, just how far bad Walt has broken. It also makes it clear that a meth-lab is now Walt's happy-place. There was a ton of implication in that little 30 second scene. Just some great writing.

 

 

I just saw on another site a claim that the song Walt was whistling was...

 

'Lily of the Valley' by Queen. I don't know that it's true, but if it is, and Jesse recognized it, there might have been more going on in that scene than I realized.

[TD Ryan2 316]

I just saw on another site a claim that the song Walt was whistling was...

 

'Lily of the Valley' by Queen. I don't know that it's true, but if it is, and Jesse recognized it, there might have been more going on in that scene than I realized.

good catch - thanks... Lilly of the Valley... that's what Walt poisoned Brock with, I didn't even realize there was a song.

 

Walt had just finished telling Jessie how broken up he was about the kid - Walt was saying that he's losing sleep over it too... and then goes of whistling while he works.

[CantTouchThis 23]

So - it brings us full circle to this question(s):

What are we rooting for?

What do you want to see happen?

 

 

I'm still rooting for Walt all the way. Everything has built up to him creating his own empire, and I absolutely want to see it come to fruition. I am rooting for Jesse just to come out OK in the end, ala not dead and not in jail. Walt I don't care so much about how he turned out, but I am rooting for him to accomplish his goal.

 

The series has to end with Walt dying. I am thinking cancer, I can't see Jesse killing him, he is done with killing. I want to see Walt have a short stint as king pin of a territory that expands even further than Gus's. Then he dies on top, and Jesse and Walt's kids come out OK. Skylar could die. Hank and Marie could die. Mike probably won't last too much longer.

[OldMaid 2,130]

I'm still rooting for Walt all the way. Everything has built up to him creating his own empire, and I absolutely want to see it come to fruition. I am rooting for Jesse just to come out OK in the end, ala not dead and not in jail. Walt I don't care so much about how he turned out, but I am rooting for him to accomplish his goal.

 

The series has to end with Walt dying. I am thinking cancer, I can't see Jesse killing him, he is done with killing. I want to see Walt have a short stint as king pin of a territory that expands even further than Gus's. Then he dies on top, and Jesse and Walt's kids come out OK. Skylar could die. Hank and Marie could die. Mike probably won't last too much longer.

This*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* Except I will be very disappointed if Skylar doesn't die.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

I hate you all.

[kutulu 1,661]

Yo! B1tch...we just be trying to talk breaking bad and sh1t. If you don't like it, bounce, b1tch, yo!

[TD Ryan2 316]

I'm still rooting for Walt all the way. Everything has built up to him creating his own empire, and I absolutely want to see it come to fruition.

yup. me too.

The previews for next week - when Walt, wearing his hat, meets these new dealers and they're in awe that, "it's Heisenberg!" is very cool... and that's just it, it's intoxicating for us to see/experience that as a viewer, you can not imagine how addictive it would be for Walt.

 

Side Story Time:

one time, at the World Series in Fenway, I was sitting in the Monster seats - it was a who's who of celebrities up there that day (long story how I go the tix). This very nice doctor and his trophy wife were sitting next to me and Mrs. TD. Trophy wife started making small talk with me/us and eventually said she thought she recognized me - I went thru everywhere I could possibly know her from and bottom line, I just didn't know this lady - but she wouldn't let it go - she kept insisting, so I just broke down and had a little fun, "OK, OK, you've probably seen a couple of my movies. I didn't want to say anything, but obviously you know so..." She gets all flustered and excited, practically jumping out of her Monster seat. She's whacking her husband on the shoulder, exclaming, "Arthur, Arthur! I told you! What was he in? I told you!". Art looks over and still can't place me, he's all . I'm laughing now. She's still asking, "what were you in" and as I'm laughing, I say, "I was just kidding, really- - I wasn't in anything". She didn't believe me. She eventually let it go, but the whole rest of the night, she though I was some famous celebrity that she just couldn't place.

It was fun.

Now imagine the rush of being Heisenberg... for real... not just duping some ditzy doctor's dame.

The rush of the respect and fear has to be intoxicating and addictive for Walt, ESPECIALLY for a guy like Walt.

[parrot 789]

I'm still rooting for Walt all the way. Everything has built up to him creating his own empire, and I absolutely want to see it come to fruition. I am rooting for Jesse just to come out OK in the end, ala not dead and not in jail. Walt I don't care so much about how he turned out, but I am rooting for him to accomplish his goal.

 

The series has to end with Walt dying. I am thinking cancer, I can't see Jesse killing him, he is done with killing. I want to see Walt have a short stint as king pin of a territory that expands even further than Gus's. Then he dies on top, and Jesse and Walt's kids come out OK. Skylar could die. Hank and Marie could die. Mike probably won't last too much longer.

 

You might be right about Jesse not killing Walt, though I still think it's possible if he somehow became aware of the things Walt has done. I too still root for Walt on some level and like the idea of him reaching higher yet, but I don't see any way he goes out on top. The story is something of a morality tale and I just can't imagine Gilligan not having Walt's sins catch up to him and having a day of reckoning. And I still think that reckoning will be at the hands of Jesse. Maybe he won't kill him, but I think he will be the agent of his downfall somehow.

[OldMaid 2,130]

You might be right about Jesse not killing Walt, though I still think it's possible if he somehow became aware of the things Walt has done. I too still root for Walt on some level and like the idea of him reaching higher yet, but I don't see any way he goes out on top. The story is something of a morality tale and I just can't imagine Gilligan not having Walt's sins catch up to him and having a day of reckoning. And I still think that reckoning will be at the hands of Jesse. Maybe he won't kill him, but I think he will be the agent of his downfall somehow.

I think if the tune Walt was whistling is correct, then this definitely sets the stage for Jesse being the one to take Walt down. Jesse's becoming much smarter than he was in the beginning, so I can see him making the connection between Walt and Brock's poisoning.

[OldMaid 2,130]

5 minutes in... and Walt is already: "Say my name."

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That was the pinnacle for Walt - congrats, they know your name - but so what? Who cares Walt.

It's all downhill from here. It all begins to unravel now.

 

Peace is important - Jessie would rather leave the 5mil to go play video games in peace. Mike just wants to due in peace. And if Walts ego could have left well alone - they'd still HSBC Gus, a job to shut up and do, lots of money, and s much better chance for peace.

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That was the pinnacle for Walt - congrats, they know your name - but so what? Who cares Walt.

It's all downhill from here. It all begins to unravel now.

 

Peace is important - Jessie would rather leave the 5mil to go play video games in peace. Mike just wants to due in peace. And if Walts ego could have left well alone - they'd still HSBC Gus, a job to shut up and do, lots of money, and s much better chance for peace.

 

I was expecting, and wanted, Walt to say "You're right" to Mike on the river bank. 7.5 million a year he and Jessie would be earning. $7,500,000 a YEAR. The way it was set up, it could have gone on for a decade or more. They had a great thing going. Essentially a 9-5 that was very, very good paying and no risks really at all.

 

It was never about the money, as Walt recently said. It's all about the power. He is the old, white, bald Scarface. He WILL have a hard fall once he reaches the top, but I really can't even see that happening.

 

But another fantastic episode. I am starting to think both Skylar and Jesse have the potential to flip. Todd is a fishy character, though he is just what Walt needs. Jesse is emotional and thoughtful. Todd is cold and calculated. That is exactly what Walt needs right now. BTW, Todd is Matt Damon's brother, and the resemblance is uncanny.

[TD Ryan2 316]

I was expecting, and wanted, Walt to say "You're right" to Mike on the river bank. 7.5 million a year he and Jessie would be earning. $7,500,000 a YEAR.

I too wanted that - but if he could say Mike was right, he could/would have walked away with the $5mil last week - as you know, we know now, it ain't about the money/right/wrong/etc, it's about Walt's ego - it's about, "Say my name". Walt is mentally ill the way an anorexic that thinks she's fat is mentally ill.

 

But another fantastic episode. I am starting to think both Skylar and Jesse have the potential to flip. Todd is a fishy character, though he is just what Walt needs. Jesse is emotional and thoughtful. Todd is cold and calculated. That is exactly what Walt needs right now. BTW, Todd is Matt Damon's brother, and the resemblance is uncanny.

Todd is dangerous - he said something a few weeks ago that was telling, "I just want to be a part of this, whatever it takes". Todd too, just wants to be important, respected... that's his primary motive. And they revisited that last night when Walt talked about "payment" and Todd didn't even care. Todd may hsve even more ego sickness than Walt.

 

And here we are again, as viewers, getting exactly what we wanted - the indulgent gratification of, "Say My Name!"... this is afterall everythig we wanted 2 or 3 seasons ago when we craved, "More Heisenberg!". And we craved it because it's what everyman wants... to walk into a restaurant, club, car dealership, sports arena, and have everyone scared/shocked/awed/cow-towing to your every need, want, and desire. It's powerful and intoxicating - you could argue that may be the best benefit of being powerful and famous (or infamous). But Breaking Bad has shown us that it's really not all that great... that it's pretty superficial and meaningless because even though people may treat you that way, you still don't feel invulnerable behind the scenes - whether you're Gus Fringe or Heisenberg, you may walk around being the cat's ass, but it comes with mountains of work and likely tremendous personal cost. It's a message to the assembly line worker that thinks, "I'd just love to be the CEO" - it ain't that easy being CEO and your seemingly lowly, simple, assembly line life may actually be better, more satisfying, and more peaceful than the CEOs.

Once again, Breaking Bad has taught us, "Be Careful What you Wish For".

 

And one final thought - The arc and continuity of the show is terrific. It really feels like they had the whole thing developed from the get-go and haven't had to "make it up as they go". So many TV Series hit the jackpot and then run out of material in that 3rd, 4th, etc season. Breaking Bad has not done that. It's been a solid, consistent, building story arc from the beginning. The ONLY story line that I balked at was the plane crash and all the coincidences. Other than that, A+ to Vince Gilligan

[OldMaid 2,130]

I was expecting, and wanted, Walt to say "You're right" to Mike on the river bank. 7.5 million a year he and Jessie would be earning. $7,500,000 a YEAR. The way it was set up, it could have gone on for a decade or more. They had a great thing going. Essentially a 9-5 that was very, very good paying and no risks really at all.

 

It was never about the money, as Walt recently said. It's all about the power. He is the old, white, bald Scarface. He WILL have a hard fall once he reaches the top, but I really can't even see that happening.

 

But another fantastic episode. I am starting to think both Skylar and Jesse have the potential to flip. Todd is a fishy character, though he is just what Walt needs. Jesse is emotional and thoughtful. Todd is cold and calculated. That is exactly what Walt needs right now. BTW, Todd is Matt Damon's brother, and the resemblance is uncanny.

If by uncanny, you mean a mutant that survived radiation from a nuclear bomb, then yes... the resemblance is uncanny. Why is that always the rule with famous brothers? Rob and Chad Lowe, Matt and Kevin Dillon, Ben and Casey Affleck... One of them always seems to get all of the good DNA.