Gepetto 1,003 Posted May 18, 2012 This is a 12 team 1 ppr league, 6 points for passing touchdowns and all other touchdowns. 2 point bonus for 50 yard receiving or rushing touchdowns by RB/WR/TE. 8 point defensive/special team touchdowns. We have the option to keep 1 player for our 1st round pick. Starting roster requirements: 1 QB 1 RB 3 WR 2 FLEX (RB, WR, TE) 1 TE 1 D 1 K This is a great group of guys and knowledgeable at fantasy football. Please give your opinions on what teams you like, teams you don't, and any comments or thoughts. Here is the breakdown by draft order for each team. I will also post the teams by position (in post #2). 1.01 joc Chris Johnson RB keeper 2.12 joc Jamaal Charles RB 3.01 joc Ahmad Bradshaw RB 4.12 joc Marques Colston WR 5.01 joc Eric Decker WR 6.12 joc Antonio Gates TE 7.01 joc Torrey Smith WR 8.12 joc Peyton Hillis RB 9.01 joc Ben Tate RB 10.12 joc Carson Palmer QB 11.01 joc Stephen Hill RC WR 12.12 joc Kevin Smith RB 13.01 joc Davone Bess WR 14.12 joc Alex Smith QB 15.01 joc Randy Moss WR 16.12 joc Denver Defense D 17.01 joc Kendall Wright RC WR 18.12 joc Neil Rackers K 1.02 ahill Aaron Rodgers QB 2.11 ahill Frank Gore RB 3.02 ahill Steven Jackson RB 4.11 ahill Kenny Britt WR 5.02 ahill Justin Blackmon WR 6.11 ahill Michael Floyd WR 7.02 ahill Jonathan Stewart RB 8.11 ahill Michael Crabtree WR 9.02 ahill Pierre Garcon WR 10.11 ahill Jermaine Gresham TE 11.02 ahill Coby Fleenor RC TE 12.11 ahill Andrew Luck RC QB 13.02 ahill Andre Caldwell WR 14.11 ahill Baltimore Defense D 15.02 ahill Mario Manningham WR 16.11 ahill Detroit Defense D 17.02 ahill David Akers K 18.11 ahill Josh Scobee K 1.03 lbh Calvin Johnson WR 2.10 lbh Marshawn Lynch RB 3.03 lbh Cam Newton QB 4.10 lbh Reggie Bush RB 5.03 lbh Demaryius Thomas WR 6.10 lbh Reggie Wayne WR 7.03 lbh Denarius Moore WR 8.10 lbh Fred Davis TE 9.03 lbh Jacquizz Rodgers RB 10.10 lbh Jacob Tamme TE 11.03 lbh Isaiah Pead RC RB 12.10 lbh Brian Quick RC WR 13.03 lbh Brandon LaFell WR 14.10 lbh Vick Ballard RC RB 15.03 lbh Joseph Addai RB 16.10 lbh Chris Givens RC WR 17.3 lbh NY Jets Defense D 18.10 lbh Jason Hanson K 1.04 hello Arian Foster RB keeper 2.09 hello Larry Fitzgerald WR 3.04 hello Darren Sproles RB 4.09 hello Percy Harvin WR 5.04 hello BenJarvus Green-Ellis WR 6.09 hello Aaron Hernandez TE 7.04 hello Matt Ryan QB 8.09 hello Santonio Holmes WR 9.04 hello David Wilson RC RB 10.09 hello Pierre Thomas RB 11.04 hello Josh Freeman QB 12.09 hello Nate Burleson WR 13.04 hello Brent Celek TE 14.09 hello Devery Henderson WR 15.04 hello Bernard Pierce RC RB 16.09 hello Philadelphia Defense D 17.04 hello Jacoby Ford WR 18.09 hello Nate Kaeding K 1.05 megla Maurice Jones-Drew RB 2.08 megla Wes Welker WR 3.05 megla Roddy White WR 4.08 megla Doug Martin RB 5.05 megla Eli Manning QB 6.08 megla Vernon Davis TE 7.05 megla CJ Spiller RB 8.08 megla James Starks RB 9.05 megla Laurent Robinson WR 10.08 megla Greg Little WR 11.05 megla Joe Flacco QB 12.08 megla Danny Amendola WR 13.05 megla Knowshon Moreno RB 14.08 megla Mason Crosby K 15.05 megla Green Bay Defense D 16.08 megla Tim Hightower RB 17.05 megla Jacksonville Defense D 18.08 megla Chris Cooley TE 1.06 gep Adrian Peterson RB keeper 2.07 gep DeMarco Murray RB 3.06 gep Hakeem Nicks WR 4.07 gep Michael Vick QB 5.06 gep Stevie Johnson WR 6.07 gep Antonio Brown WR 7.06 gep Tony Romo QB 8.07 gep Stevan Ridley RB 9.06 gep Jared Cook TE 10.07 gep Toby Gerhart RB 11.06 gep Felix Jones RB 12.07 gep Doug Baldwin WR 13.06 gep Alshon Jeffery RC WR 14.07 gep Kellen Winslow Jr. TE 15.06 gep Randall Cobb WR 16.07 gep Sebastian Janikowski K 17.06 gep Chicago Defense D 18.07 gep Braylon Edwards WR 1.07 famousb LeSean McCoy RB keeper 2.06 famousb Rob Gronkowski TE 3.07 famousb Victor Cruz WR 4.06 famousb Steve Smith CAR WR 5.07 famousb Shonn Greene RB 6.06 famousb Jahvid Best RB 7.07 famousb Jay Cutler QB 8.06 famousb Willis McGahee RB 9.07 famousb Mike Williams TB WR 10.06 famousb Malcolm Floyd WR 11.07 famousb Ryan Fitzpatrick QB 12.06 famousb James Jones WR 13.07 famousb Dustin Keller TE 14.06 famousb SF 49ers Defense D 15.07 famousb Robert Turbin RC RB 16.06 famousb Jordan Todman RC RB 17.07 famousb John Kasay K 18.06 famousb Michael Tolbert RB 1.08 dehaven Ryan Mathews RB 2.05 dehaven Jimmy Graham TE 3.08 dehaven Brandon Marshall WR 4.05 dehaven Mike Wallace WR 5.08 dehaven Brandon Lloyd WR 6.05 dehaven RGIII RC QB 7.08 dehaven Peyton Manning QB 8.05 dehaven Donald Brown RB 9.08 dehaven Robert Meachem WR 10.05 dehaven Shane Vereen RB 11.08 dehaven Ronnie Hillman RC RB 12.05 dehaven Mike Goodson RB 13.08 dehaven Matt Flynn QB 14.05 dehaven Santana Moss WR 15.08 dehaven Mikel Leshoure RB 16.05 dehaven Kendall Hunter RB 17.08 dehaven Seattle Defense D 18.05 dehaven Robbie Gould K 1.09 bb06 Drew Brees QB 2.04 bb06 Matt Forte RB 3.09 bb06 Greg Jennings WR 4.04 bb06 Michael Turner RB 5.09 bb06 Chris 'Beanie' Wells RB 6.04 bb06 DeSean Jackson WR 7.09 bb06 Jason Witten TE 8.04 bb06 Anquan Boldin WR 9.09 bb06 Titus Young WR 10.04 bb06 Ben Roethlisberger QB 11.09 bb06 Mohamad Sanu RC WR 12.04 bb06 Lamar Miller RC RB 13.09 bb06 Marcedes Lewis TE 14.04 bb06 Josh Morgan WR 15.09 bb06 Jason Snelling RB 16.04 bb06 NY Giants D 17.09 bb06 Stephen Gostkowski K 18.04 bb06 Rueben Randle RC WR 1.10 white wonder Darren McFadden RB keeper 2.03 white wonder Matthew Stafford QB 3.10 white wonder Fred Jackson RB 4.03 white wonder Dez Bryant WR 5.10 white wonder Dwayne Bowe WR 6.03 white wonder Jeremy Maclin WR 7.10 white wonder Isaac Redman RB 8.03 white wonder Brandon Pettigrew TE 9.10 white wonder Darrius Heyward-Bey WR 10.03 white wonder Daniel Thomas RB 11.10 white wonder Tony Gonzalez TE 12.03 white wonder Evan Royster RB 13.10 white wonder Nate Washington WR 14.03 white wonder Kevin Kolb QB 15.10 white wonder Jake Locker QB 16.03 white wonder Houston Defense D 17.10 white wonder Alex Green RB 18.03 white wonder Rob Bironas K 1.11 moz Tom Brady QB 2.02 moz Andre Johnson WR 3.11 moz AJ Green WR 4.02 moz Jordy Nelson WR 5.11 moz Vincent Jackson WR 6.02 moz Roy Helu Jr RB 7.11 moz Mark Ingram RB 8.02 moz Sidney Rice WR 9.11 moz Ryan Williams RB 10.02 moz LaGarette Blount RB 11.11 moz Rashad Jennings RB 12.02 moz Andy Dalton QB 13.11 moz Rashard Mendenhall RB 14.02 moz Martellus Bennett TE 15.11 moz LaMichael James RC RB 16.02 moz Taiwan Jones RB 17.11 moz New England Defense D 18.02 moz Olindo Mare K 1.12 mtski Ray Rice RB keeper 2.01 mtski Trent Richardson RB 3.12 mtski Julio Jones WR 4.01 mtski Miles Austin WR 5.12 mtski Jermichael Finley TE 6.01 mtski Philip Rivers QB 7.12 mtski DeAngelo Williams RB 8.01 mtski Michael Bush RB 9.12 mtski Lance Moore WR 10.01 mtski Matt Schaub QB 11.12 mtski Austin Collie WR 12.01 mtski Owen Daniels WR 13.12 mtski Vincent Brown WR 14.01 mtski Bernard Scott RB 15.12 mtski Pittsburgh Defense D 16.01 mtski Sam Bradford QB 17.12 mtski Bilal Powell RB 18.01 mtski Adi Kunalic K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,003 Posted May 18, 2012 teams by position jocstrap QB Carson Palmer Alex Smith RB Chris Johnson Jamaal Charles Ahmad Bradshaw Peyton Hillis Ben Tate Kevin Smith WR Marques Colston Eric Decker Torrey Smith Stephen Hill RC Davone Bess Randy Moss Kendall Wright RC TE Antonio Gates D Denver Broncos K Neil Rackers ahill QB Aaron Rodgers Andrew Luck RC RB Frank Gore Steven Jackson Jonathan Stewart WR Kenny Britt Justin Blackmon Michael Floyd Michael Crabtree Pierre Garcon Andre Caldwell Mario Manningham TE Jermaine Gresham Coby Fleenor RC D Baltimore Defense Detroit Defense K David Akers Josh Scobee little big head QB Cam Newton RB Marshawn Lynch Reggie Bush Jacquizz Rodgers Isaiah Pead RC Vick Ballard RC Joseph Addai WR Calvin Johnson Demaryius Thomas Reggie Wayne Denarius Moore Brian Quick RC Brandon LaFell Chris Givens RC TE Fred Davis Jacob Tamme D NY Jets Defense K Jason Hanson hellothere QB Matt Ryan Josh Freeman RB Arian Foster Darren Sproles BenJarvus Green-Ellis David Wilson RC Pierre Thomas Bernard Pierce RC WR Larry Fitzgerald Percy Harvin Santonio Holmes Nate Burleson Devery Henderson Jacoby Ford TE Aaron Hernandez Brent Celek D Philadelphia Defense K Nate Kaeding meglamaniac QB Eli Manning Joe Flacco RB Maurice Jones-Drew Doug Martin CJ Spiller James Starks Knowshon Moreno Tim Hightower WR Wes Welker Roddy White Laurent Robinson Greg Little Danny Amendola TE Vernon Davis Chris Cooley D Green Bay Defense Jacksonville Defense K Mason Crosby gepetto QB Michael Vick Tony Romo RB Adrian Peterson DeMarco Murray Stevan Ridley Toby Gerhart Felix Jones WR Hakeem Nicks Stevie Johnson Antonio Brown Doug Baldwin Alshon Jeffery RC Randall Cobb Braylon Edwards TE Jared Cook Kellen Winslow Jr. D Chicago Defense K Sebastian Janikowski famousb QB Jay Cutler Ryan Fitzpatrick RB LeSean McCoy Shonn Greene Jahvid Best Willis McGahee Robert Turbin RC Jordan Todman RC Michael Tolbert WR Victor Cruz Steve Smith CAR Mike Williams TB Malcolm Floyd James Jones TE Rob Gronkowski Dustin Keller D SF 49ers Defense K John Kasay dehaven QB RGIII RC Peyton Manning Matt Flynn RB Ryan Mathews Donald Brown Shane Vereen Ronnie Hillman RC Mike Goodson Mikel Leshoure Kendall Hunter WR Brandon Marshall Mike Wallace Brandon Lloyd Robert Meachem Santana Moss TE Jimmy Graham D Seattle Defense K Robbie Gould bigblue06 QB Drew Brees Ben Roethlisberger RB Matt Forte Michael Turner Chris 'Beanie' Wells Lamar Miller RC Jason Snelling WR Greg Jennings DeSean Jackson Anquan Boldin Titus Young Mohamad Sanu RC Josh Morgan Rueben Randle RC TE Jason Witten Marcedes Lewis D NY Giants K Stephen Gostkowski white wonder QB Matthew Stafford Kevin Kolb Jake Locker RB Darren McFadden Fred Jackson Isaac Redman Daniel Thomas Evan Royster Alex Green WR Dez Bryant Dwayne Bowe Jeremy Maclin Darrius Heyward-Bey Nate Washington TE Brandon Pettigrew Tony Gonzalez D Houston Defense K Rob Bironas moz QB Tom Brady Andy Dalton RB Roy Helu Jr Mark Ingram Ryan Williams LaGarette Blount Rashad Jennings Rashard Mendenhall LaMichael James RC Taiwan Jones WR Andre Johnson AJ Green Jordy Nelson Vincent Jackson Sidney Rice TE Martellus Bennett D New England Defense K Olindo Mare mtskibum QB Philip Rivers Matt Schaub Sam Bradford RB Ray Rice Trent Richardson DeAngelo Williams Michael Bush Bernard Scott Bilal Powell WR Julio Jones Miles Austin Lance Moore Austin Collie Vincent Brown TE Jermichael Finley Owen Daniels D Pittsburgh Defense K Adi Kunalic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boilermaker04 11 Posted May 18, 2012 Who threw back Aaron Rodgers? lbh's squad jumped out as the best draft from a quick glance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,003 Posted May 18, 2012 Who threw back Aaron Rodgers? ahill threw back Aaron Rodgers and Maurice Jones Drew knowing he had the 2nd overall pick (and really the first pick because Joc kept CJIII), and then ahill drafted Aaron Rodgers back to his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 18, 2012 Looking at starting rosters, I actually like LBH, HT, and delay's teams. Not necessarily in that order though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 My favorite team is probably Hellothere. The group of Foster/Sproles/Fitz/Harvin/Hernandez could be pretty dominant. That is A LOT of points in a PPR league. I think the Ryan/Freeman combo at QB will be serviceable. Holmes and BJGE aren't bad as WR3 and flex2. I understand why many like LBH. Newton/Lynch/Bush/Calvin look pretty nice. I am just not a big fan of the depth of his team in a league that you must start 3 WR's and maybe more with the 2 flex. Still should be a strong contender though. My honorable mention would probably be White Wonder. I think Stafford/McFadden/FJax/Bryant/Bowe/Maclin/Pettigrew looks like a really nice core. Redman looks like the starter in Pittsburgh by default. The health of McFadden (and FJax) seem like the main concern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFFL Champ 0 Posted May 18, 2012 Has anyone noticed the order of guys getting drafted this year??? TEs in the 2nd? Very few RBs in the first few rounds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,203 Posted May 18, 2012 i like my team but my favorite team is Hellothere. I think he had the perfect combination of a great keeper and a great draft slot. As Stew said, and Stew is prettty much my identical twin when it comes to our feelings on FF, the core of Foster, Sproles, Harvin, Fitz, Hernandez could be beastly in PPR. i really wanted sproles in round 3 but settled for fred jackson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,203 Posted May 18, 2012 Has anyone noticed the order of guys getting drafted this year??? TEs in the 2nd? Very few RBs in the first few rounds? the TE thing is bound to happen when 2 guys go off like Gronk and Graham did. However the position is so deep and this league is full of flex that you really just have to look at it as if those teams were drafting WR early. as for RB there seems to be 2 opinions. 1. that so much RBBC means you should load up on other positions and just wait on RB once the top studs are gone 2. that you should draft RB's early and often due tot he workhorse scarcity and find WR's later. I fall more under option 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted May 18, 2012 My two favorites are HelloThere & BigBlue06. Both are fairly balanced in regards to all positions. My two, "if everything falls into place" teams, would be White Wonder & Gepetto. If Gepetto's starting running backs can stay healthy he should be alright. Not to mention he handcuffed both his starters with their capable backups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFFL Champ 0 Posted May 18, 2012 the TE thing is bound to happen when 2 guys go off like Gronk and Graham did. However the position is so deep and this league is full of flex that you really just have to look at it as if those teams were drafting WR early. as for RB there seems to be 2 opinions. 1. that so much RBBC means you should load up on other positions and just wait on RB once the top studs are gone 2. that you should draft RB's early and often due tot he workhorse scarcity and find WR's later. I fall more under option 2. what a dumb league setup... who's the commish?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 Has anyone noticed the order of guys getting drafted this year??? TEs in the 2nd? Very few RBs in the first few rounds? It doesn't surprise me that Gronkowski and Graham went in the 2nd round after the seasons they had. What surprised me was that the next TE didn't come off the board until the last pick of the 5th round. To me, the biggest steal was Aaron Hernandez at 6.09. I definitely wouldn't have taken Finley or V.Davis over him. Hernandez averaged more targets and more receptions per game than Rob Gronkowski last year. I really think in PPR leagues, Hernandez could end up very close to Gronkowski in total fantasy points this year. He finished 3rd in PPR scoring last season and that was with missing 2 games and having some nagging injuries throughout the season. As far as RB's go, I think it depends on league setup. In a PPR league like this, where you only HAVE to start 1 RB, I don't think you need to draft RB heavy. I usually like to get one bell cow RB out of the first two rounds and then just take BPA, even if it ends up being several WR's/TE's in a row. In a league where you must start 2 RB's or more, I think getting RB's early becomes more important. And in NON-PPR leagues, then I absolutely agree with WW that drafting RB's early and often is probably the way to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 i like my team but my favorite team is Hellothere. I think he had the perfect combination of a great keeper and a great draft slot. As Stew said, and Stew is prettty much my identical twin when it comes to our feelings on FF, the core of Foster, Sproles, Harvin, Fitz, Hernandez could be beastly in PPR. i really wanted sproles in round 3 but settled for fred jackson. This is why I can't join any leagues with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 18, 2012 It doesn't surprise me that Gronkowski and Graham went in the 2nd round after the seasons they had. What surprised me was that the next TE didn't come off the board until the last pick of the 5th round. To me, the biggest steal was Aaron Hernandez at 6.09. I definitely wouldn't have taken Finley or V.Davis over him. Hernandez averaged more targets and more receptions per game than Rob Gronkowski last year. I really think in PPR leagues, Hernandez could end up very close to Gronkowski in total fantasy points this year. He finished 3rd in PPR scoring last season and that was with missing 2 games and having some nagging injuries throughout the season. I actually wanted to skip Gronk, and hope that Hernandez got back to me in the 3rd. But from my draft position, i was worried that there could have been a run on TEs and i would have been chasing the run in the 3rd instead of helping lead it in the 2nd... so i just took Gronk after weighing my options and deciding there were enough of the next tier of WR on the board that one would get back to me; and also deeming that there weren't any super-stud WRs that looked like they were gonna outperform Gronk. Also, i thought about grabbing Hernandez in the 4th, 5th, and 6th to play at my Flex #2 position, running a two TE set since i figured Hernandez is likely to put up close to what Gronk did. but after figuring his ppg average was going to be around 14 or 15 at best (i think it was 13 last year, while Gronk was 17 in this league), that i should go WR (since we have to start 3) and then i decided to grab two more RBs... but i was very close to trying to snag both Gronk and Hernandez... if we could start a TE in the WR position, i probably would have done it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,605 Posted May 18, 2012 I have the best team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted May 18, 2012 I have the best team Had you not dropped the ball and drafted finley before hernandez then probably yes. Finley is such an effing bum. He drops so many passes and there are way to many reliable weapons in GB that rodgers doesnt need to waste plays throwing to a guy who doesnt seem to get it. Yes hernandez is on a team with a lot of options but tge difference is hes reliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 Had you not dropped the ball and drafted finley before hernandez then probably yes. Finley is such an effing bum. He drops so many passes and there are way to many reliable weapons in GB that rodgers doesnt need to waste plays throwing to a guy who doesnt seem to get it. Yes hernandez is on a team with a lot of options but tge difference is hes reliable. I actually almost listed Mtskibum as one of my top 2 or 3 favorite teams. And its true...replace Finley with Hernandez and I probably would of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,605 Posted May 18, 2012 Had you not dropped the ball and drafted finley before hernandez then probably yes. Finley is such an effing bum. He drops so many passes and there are way to many reliable weapons in GB that rodgers doesnt need to waste plays throwing to a guy who doesnt seem to get it. Yes hernandez is on a team with a lot of options but tge difference is hes reliable.no wa No way. I wouldn't trade finley for hernandez even if I got an upgrade at a different position. Finley is a stud. He spent all of last offseason rehabbing, where as he is spending all of this offseason getting faster, stronger, and working on his football skills. Finley is going to have a career year this year, and it is going to be big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 18, 2012 No way. I wouldn't trade finley for hernandez even if I got an upgrade at a different position. Finley is a stud. He spent all of last offseason rehabbing, where as he is spending all of this offseason getting faster, stronger, and working on his football skills. Finley is going to have a career year this year, and it is going to be big. anybody that knows anything, knows that there is only 1 good TE named Finley in the NFL: The True Finley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 18, 2012 My team sucks - sometimes VBD is totally not the answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,605 Posted May 18, 2012 My team sucks - sometimes VBD is totally not the answer The key to VBD is drafting good players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 18, 2012 The key to VBD is drafting good players or, actually being able to determine what good value is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 No way. I wouldn't trade finley for hernandez even if I got an upgrade at a different position. Finley is a stud. He spent all of last offseason rehabbing, where as he is spending all of this offseason getting faster, stronger, and working on his football skills. Finley is going to have a career year this year, and it is going to be big. I'll just agree to strongly disagree with this, especially in PPR leagues. Aaron Hernandez had more receptions in 14 games last season than Jermichael Finley had in 21 games in 2010 and 2011 combined, with close to as many yards and TD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 My team sucks - sometimes VBD is totally not the answer I like your first 5 picks and where you drafted them. The problem is that you have to start a RB and TE, and by waiting until the 6th round and 14th respectively, those positions are pretty weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 18, 2012 My team sucks - sometimes VBD is totally not the answer i'll trade you Best (a 20 ppg PPR RB) for Andre (a guy who's never had 10 tds and couldn't get healthy last year)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted May 18, 2012 My team sucks - sometimes VBD is totally not the answer If Roy Helu finishes the year inside the top 10, you may be ok since you are only required to start one running back in this league. But you're banking on ShanaRat so that's a scary endeavor in itself as we all know. You've got great depth at WR but having Bennett as your starting TE is sketchy. Gonna need the chips to fall perfectly with these scenarios. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,605 Posted May 18, 2012 I'll just agree to strongly disagree with this, especially in PPR leagues. Aaron Hernandez had more receptions in 14 games last season than Jermichael Finley had in 21 games in 2010 and 2011 combined, with close to as many yards and TD's. Hernandez has been better than finley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 380 Posted May 18, 2012 [Dangerfieldvoice} No respect I tell ya, I get no respect at all [Dangerfieldvoice} Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted May 18, 2012 Hernandez has been better than finley. The previous two years everyone said Jermichael Finley was poised for a breakout year. I'll believe it when I see it. Obviously 2010 was lost to injury. But I don't see a big excuse for 2011. He is just very inconsistent and has the tendency to disappear from games. Doesn't mean he isn't still a top 5 or 6 TE. But for now, in PPR leagues, I'll buy the younger player who has already shown better production (Hernandez). Just my opinion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFFL Champ 0 Posted May 18, 2012 i'd so much rather have Hernandez than Finley - but i can see how Finley's potential to score more points than Hernandez is there... i just don't see it as a reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,203 Posted May 18, 2012 not to pile up on Moz, i bet he ends up doing fine this year but one of the main reasons i don't like his team is that i can look at my team and I actually like my top 3 WR's as much as i like his. I could easily see them performing as well. Dez, Bowe and Maclin vs. Andre, AJ and Jordy. Yeah maybe 9/10 people would pick the second trio but can you really tell me Dez and Bowe don't have the capacity for monster seasons? Didn't Bowe have a monster season the last time he had Cassel all year? And there are 2-3 other teams i can say the same thing about when comparing to Moz. the difference is our RB situations are much better going in to the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 18, 2012 not to pile up on Moz, i bet he ends up doing fine this year but one of the main reasons i don't like his team is that i can look at my team and I actually like my top 3 WR's as much as i like his. I could easily see them performing as well. Dez, Bowe and Maclin vs. Andre, AJ and Jordy. Yeah maybe 9/10 people would pick the second trio but can you really tell me Dez and Bowe don't have the capacity for monster seasons? Didn't Bowe have a monster season the last time he had Cassel all year? And there are 2-3 other teams i can say the same thing about when comparing to Moz. the difference is our RB situations are much better going in to the season. WW - just don't trust Dez as much as some , Bowe is solid and I do like Maclin as Philly's real #1. Look I will start Brady , Helu/Ingram , Andre Johnson , AJ Green , Jordy Nelson , Vjax , Sidney Rice , M Bennett. Honestly I think many are sleeping on Bennett but maybe I am wrong with Ballard out and the way Eli love to throw to his TE ( and Bennett is a better reciever than any he has had since Shockey IMO if his head is on right ). That said if I would have known Green, Nelson , Vjax, Rice fall where they did I do take a back round 2 (JCharles) and pass on AJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted May 18, 2012 My favorite team is probably Hellothere. The group of Foster/Sproles/Fitz/Harvin/Hernandez could be pretty dominant. That is A LOT of points in a PPR league. I think the Ryan/Freeman combo at QB will be serviceable. Holmes and BJGE aren't bad as WR3 and flex2. I understand why many like LBH. Newton/Lynch/Bush/Calvin look pretty nice. I am just not a big fan of the depth of his team in a league that you must start 3 WR's and maybe more with the 2 flex. Still should be a strong contender though. My honorable mention would probably be White Wonder. I think Stafford/McFadden/FJax/Bryant/Bowe/Maclin/Pettigrew looks like a really nice core. Redman looks like the starter in Pittsburgh by default. The health of McFadden (and FJax) seem like the main concern. Pretty much sums up my thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 18, 2012 not to pile up on Moz, i bet he ends up doing fine this year but one of the main reasons i don't like his team is that i can look at my team and I actually like my top 3 WR's as much as i like his. I could easily see them performing as well. Dez, Bowe and Maclin vs. Andre, AJ and Jordy. Yeah maybe 9/10 people would pick the second trio but can you really tell me Dez and Bowe don't have the capacity for monster seasons? Didn't Bowe have a monster season the last time he had Cassel all year? And there are 2-3 other teams i can say the same thing about when comparing to Moz. the difference is our RB situations are much better going in to the season. an no worries about piling on - my team always get trash post draft but the last 3 seasons I got 2 runner ups and if not for an 11th hour switch at QB:( would of had the title last year. also AJ , Jordy , Rice , VJax are all good at long scores - maybe that bonus helps who knows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted May 18, 2012 No way. I wouldn't trade finley for hernandez even if I got an upgrade at a different position. Finley is a stud. He spent all of last offseason rehabbing, where as he is spending all of this offseason getting faster, stronger, and working on his football skills. Finley is going to have a career year this year, and it is going to be big. Wasnt hernandez dealing with an injured knee for a portion of the year? He probably wasnt 100% all year either. He finished as the third te last year and i see him being closer to gronk in points at the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,003 Posted May 20, 2012 My draft stretegy for tight end was to get Jared Cook late. He's going to have a big year. I even passed on Witten in the 7th to take Romo even though I had already taken Vick in the 4th. Then I didn't have to worry about back up QB anymore, which is important when you pick Vick, and I was able to draft Cook, Gerhart, and Felix Jones in the rounds where back up QBs usually go, all must have players for my entire team to work. Getting 3 WRs in the first 6 rounds was important in a start 3 WR ppr 12 team league and I accomplished that with Hakeem Nicks, Stevie Johnson, and Antonio Brown. I got two backs with both steady and high level production by keeping Adrian Peterson in round 1 and drafting DeMarco Murray in round 2. Both Vick in round 4 and Romo in round 7 were great value. Getting Stevan Ridley in round 8 to fill in my flex2 position could be very helpful for my starting lineup as I expect Ridley to get most 1st & 2nd down work and goal line carries, filling the BJGE role for New England. Baldwin is a nice WR 4 on my bench and to use when needed for bye weeks and if Ridley struggles or has a bad matchup. Baldwin is working very hard trying to be perfect in everything he does this offseason to get a bigger role in the Seattle offense and improve on his rookie year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,203 Posted May 20, 2012 I got two backs with both steady and high level production by keeping Adrian Peterson in round 1 and drafting DeMarco Murray in round 2. a healthy Peterson, yes definitely. but how can you or anyone classify Murray as steady? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,003 Posted May 20, 2012 a healthy Peterson, yes definitely. but how can you or anyone classify Murray as steady? Because when he starts and gets 20 carries (which occurred 5 out of 6 games or 83% of the time that he started) he gets a minimum of 19 points per game. http://football3.myfantasyleague.com/2012/player?L=13888&P=10302 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,203 Posted May 20, 2012 Because when he starts and gets 20 carries (which occurred 5 out of 6 games or 83% of the time that he started) he gets a minimum of 19 points per game. http://football3.myfantasyleague.com/2012/player?L=13888&P=10302 i can't label him that after 5 games. especially when you need to stipulate it with when healthy and getting 20 carries. i love his potential but thats all it is right now. I need to see a larger sample size and the ability to remain on the field (which was an issue in college as well) before I can call him a steady guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,003 Posted May 21, 2012 i can't label him that after 5 games. especially when you need to stipulate it with when healthy and getting 20 carries. i love his potential but thats all it is right now. I need to see a larger sample size and the ability to remain on the field (which was an issue in college as well) before I can call him a steady guy. I've seen enough of him. When given the chance he hasn't proven to be unsteady. Regardless of whatever word you or I use to describe him, I think he's a RB 2 easily and probably a RB 1 in 2012. Wait and see and then we'll know, but when I draft I can only base my decision on what I've seen of a player and their stats and so this is my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites