Can start a QB in the flex position

[handbanana 47]

Other than being able to play a QB in the flex, this league is very vanilla and standard. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D/ST. 4pts for passing TD 6pts for rush/rec TD.

 

In this league, it is an ENORMOUS advantage to have a good QB in the flex spot (vs RBs and WRs). 2 years ago, a guy went Manning 11th overall and Brady coming back at 14 and won the league. Last year, I was killing it with Stafford and Vick until Vick got hurt (and Stafford to a certain extent). The problem with taking QBs early is that you really have to hit on your other positions later, especially at RB. Last year, I hit on F Jax and Beannie late.

 

If you wait on your QB, you will likely be behind at the QB position but will almost undoubtedly be behind in the flex position. You can have a really strong set of skill position players and still get a guy like Schaub in the 5th or 6th, but then you are playing massive catch-up at the flex position.

 

I have the 3rd overall pick this year. My buddy is taking Rodgers #1 overall. That means I will be choosing between Foster, McCoy, Rice, and Brady (if Brady goes #2 overall, I will not take Brees or Stafford that high so I would take the stud RB).

 

Assuming that Foster goes #2 overall, given the rules in this league, would you rather have Brady or McCoy/Rice? I am really high on M Ryan this year, so I was thinking that if I drafted McCoy and then were able to get Ryan on the way back in the 2nd, that that would be better than a Brady/S Jax combo. However, if I went Brady and then Ryan, I would be set at QB and the flex, and then could just load up on skill position players the rest of the way and hope to hit on a few of them. With the value of the WR position in RDs 3-4, and the need to get a quality TE, I could see myself not taking a RB until the 6th round if I went QB/QB. I would obviously be terrible at RB, but perhaps the upside at QB, flex, and WRs would offset my awful RBs?

 

What say you sage ballers?

[Tomidius 1]

Take a RB

[Ditka vs. ______ 0]

Take the QB!!! And take another one early, you said it yourself, you'll have a huge advantage over the other teams at the QB position, and a huge advantage over them at the Flex spot. QB's will fly off the board in this type of scoring format, and because every team will likely have 3 QB's (2 to start, + a back-up) there will be nothing on the waiver wire if you need it.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Other than being able to play a QB in the flex, this league is very vanilla and standard. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D/ST. 4pts for passing TD 6pts for rush/rec TD.

 

In this league, it is an ENORMOUS advantage to have a good QB in the flex spot (vs RBs and WRs). 2 years ago, a guy went Manning 11th overall and Brady coming back at 14 and won the league. Last year, I was killing it with Stafford and Vick until Vick got hurt (and Stafford to a certain extent). The problem with taking QBs early is that you really have to hit on your other positions later, especially at RB. Last year, I hit on F Jax and Beannie late.

 

If you wait on your QB, you will likely be behind at the QB position but will almost undoubtedly be behind in the flex position. You can have a really strong set of skill position players and still get a guy like Schaub in the 5th or 6th, but then you are playing massive catch-up at the flex position.

 

I have the 3rd overall pick this year. My buddy is taking Rodgers #1 overall. That means I will be choosing between Foster, McCoy, Rice, and Brady (if Brady goes #2 overall, I will not take Brees or Stafford that high so I would take the stud RB).

 

Assuming that Foster goes #2 overall, given the rules in this league, would you rather have Brady or McCoy/Rice? I am really high on M Ryan this year, so I was thinking that if I drafted McCoy and then were able to get Ryan on the way back in the 2nd, that that would be better than a Brady/S Jax combo. However, if I went Brady and then Ryan, I would be set at QB and the flex, and then could just load up on skill position players the rest of the way and hope to hit on a few of them. With the value of the WR position in RDs 3-4, and the need to get a quality TE, I could see myself not taking a RB until the 6th round if I went QB/QB. I would obviously be terrible at RB, but perhaps the upside at QB, flex, and WRs would offset my awful RBs?

 

What say you sage ballers?

 

 

So there are some questions to be answered first. How many teams in the league? I'm assuming it's not PPR since you didn't indicate it in the first line. So I guess the question is how many QB's typically go and how fast? In standard 10 and 12 team leagues Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Stafford and possibly Newton are all gone by the start of the 3rd round. I'm good with all those but Newton. Assuming it's a 12 team league I personally would take the "sure thing" at RB early, then shoot for a QB late 2nd or early 3rd. I would target someone like Matt Ryan the follow it a round or two later with Rivers/Romo/Eli/Cutler. WR is deep enough to put off a bit, but I would think any team you could field with a top RB and two top QB's would be pretty potent. Again, some of it will depend on how many QB's go how fast in your league. I'd definitely be checking the previous drafts and reviewing that. If 8 QB's go before the 2nd round ends, you obviously have to factor that in.

[Mr Neil 63]

I'm in a 2 QB league n drafted last Sunday night, its non ppr for RBs. I had elbow so I got 12th+13th pick n so forth. first 8 picks: Ryan, CJ2k, Roddy, Cutler, Hillis, Torrey smith, Pettigrew, M Bush. Go Qb, rb Qb, rb in first 4 rds. Worse case u get Flacco as your QB2. Get Locker as your qb3 as trade bait/insurance

[Mr Neil 63]

correction Maclin as my wr2, torrey as my WR3

[ralphster 274]

HB:

 

I'd go Brady in the first if he's there. After that it comes down to the spread between Ryan and Rivers/Romo. The spread between a 2nd round RB and a 3rd round RB is roughly ~60 points. SO - if you think Ryan is going to score 60 more than Rivers/Romo (add Eli/Peyton/Vick if you want) then definitely take Ryan in the 2nd. If not take the best available RB in rounds 2/3 and then get a solid QB in the 4th. And take Fitzpatrick as your backup in the 10th...

[jrbdmb 28]

Since this is a defacto 2QB league (it would be insane to put anything but a QB in the flex) I think you have no choice but to take a QB first. Otherwise you are going to end up something like Rivers / Big Ben as you top QB. Grab Brees if you can.

 

See ESPN 2-QB mock for an example of how a 10 team 2QB draft may go. And IMHO Karabell would regret not taking Rodgers with the #1 pick.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

Essentially your in a 2 QB league. It sounds like you guys all know each other, but for new people to your league it would sound suspsicously like your trying to slip an exploit through on them by sticking QB in the flex instead of making it clear its a 2 QB league.

 

Buyer beware, alls fair in love, war and Fantasy football, read the scoring settings and all that; but you know a third of most leagues would miss that detail and make for a very uncompetitive league with only 3 teams truly in it.

[effective 0]

Yeah I'd go QB QB in this format all day long. And then I'd grab someone like Fitzpatrick late in the draft as well.

[bjsteel 34]

I have the 4th pick in a 10-team 2-QB league, and assuming Rodgers/Brady/Brees are the first three off the board, can't decide between Foster or Stafford with my pick.

[BlackPlague 1]

There should be no question about this. You take the QB. It's not even debatable.

[Super Cubs 154]

QB in the 1st and take your QB for flex early as well maybe ronds 3 or 4 depending on the flow of the draft.

[bjsteel 34]

There should be no question about this. You take the QB. It's not even debatable.

 

I should say you can start a QB at the Flex, but don't have to, I still consider it a 2-QB league! Stafford scares me some as last year was his first healthy season and already hurt his non-throwing hand. I'm leaning Stafford here, but if I went Foster, I'd be looking at Ryan/Eli/Rivers/Romo with my next two picks.

[BlackPlague 1]

I should say you can start a QB at the Flex, but don't have to, I still consider it a 2-QB league! Stafford scares me some as last year was his first healthy season and already hurt his non-throwing hand. I'm leaning Stafford here, but if I went Foster, I'd be looking at Ryan/Eli/Rivers/Romo with my next two picks.

 

If the people you are playing with are aware you can start a QB at flex, I would highly doubt more than one of Ryan/Eli/Rivers/Romo are even available at your next pick. This makes no sense.

 

Assuming 12 teams? At least 7 or 8 QBs should go in the first round under these rules. The advantage to having a top 5 QB at QB and a top 15 QB at flex is huge.

[bjsteel 34]

If the people you are playing with are aware you can start a QB at flex, I would highly doubt more than one of Ryan/Eli/Rivers/Romo are even available at your next pick. This makes no sense.

 

Assuming 12 teams? At least 7 or 8 QBs should go in the first round under these rules. The advantage to having a top 5 QB at QB and a top 15 QB at flex is huge.

 

10-team league, I meant to say "I'd be looking at Ryan/Eli/Rivers/Romo with my next 2nd pick", one should there I would think. If not, I'd be stuck with Peyton/Vick/Roth...ouch, guess I'll be going QB with the first pick, probably even with my 2nd pick if one of Ryan/Eli/Rivers/Romo should happen to fall!

[handbanana 47]

Thanks guys, a lot of good responses.

 

First off, yes, we are sure to point out to any noobs that the flex is an OP position and that QBs can be be started there.

 

Second, this is a 12 team re-draft, snake draft league. Non ppr

 

Third, even though you are allowed to start a QB in the flex, many teams choose not to due so and are highly successful. The flex position is only one position, so even if you are losing at that position, you can win at both RB, both WR and the TE position if you take your QB(s) later. Last year, 4 QBs went in the first round, 2 in the second, and 2 in the third. This year, I can see it being fairly similar. So, if you take 2 QBs early, you will definitely be playing catch-up at the other skill positions because other teams are snapping those players up who are "falling" to them.

 

Third, in my opinion, there is bound to be a statistical drop-off at the QB position this year (a trend back toward the mean). Rodgers will likely throw more pics and less TDs, same for Brady, no way Brees throws for that many yards and he is good for a bunch of pics this year without Payton, Stafford, who knows, so much of last seasons success were miracle chuck-n-duck to Calvin flukey comebacks, how many of those balls get picked off this year? Injuries are of course a potential concern as well, especially with Stafford, and Brady's O Line play has me worried this year.

 

Point is, at the #3 pick, I am not certain that I would go with Brady/Brees over Foster or Rice. If I picked Foster, I could likely get M Ryan in the second. If not, I would take the best player available, and hope for a guy like Peyton in the 3rd. I also really like Palmer's upside this year, as well as Flacco.

 

So, let's say you had to choose between these 3 teams. Which one would you rather have?

 

Option 1: Rice, M Ryan, Manning (either one), and Harvin, or

 

Option 2: Brady, Ryan, Turner and Harvin, or

 

Option 3: Rice, Jennings, Manning, Flacco or Palmer?

 

I would lean toward Option 1, then option 2. This year I would rather wait on a WR until the 4th round in this league. Thoughts?