Matt Mueller 148 Posted September 5, 2012 After great camp reports Brady to Lloyd didn't show much in the preseason. 4 targets...1 catch I believe. Are you guys taking a wait and see approach on Lloyd, if you have that option, or are you starting him right out of the gate? I think that for most teams that have him he will probably be a must start option this week but I could see someone talking themselves into someone like K. Wright over Lloyd or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinomarino 0 Posted September 5, 2012 After great camp reports Brady to Lloyd didn't show much in the preseason. 4 targets...1 catch I believe. Are you guys taking a wait and see approach on Lloyd, if you have that option, or are you starting him right out of the gate? I think that for most teams that have him he will probably be a must start option this week but I could see someone talking themselves into someone like K. Wright over Lloyd or something. Depends on what your bench looks like...not a bad option, could be a good old fashion shootout b/c NE Def is a little suspect...might be up and down the field all game...again, if you have the option of wait and see...might not be a bad approach...you'd hate to see... Gronk 6 for 110 and 1 Hern 4 for 75 and 2 Welker 7 for 90 Woodhead 3 for 34 Lloyd 2 for 29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ditka vs. ______ 0 Posted September 5, 2012 After all the preseason hype out of NE for Ochocinco last season, I'd wait and see on this one if you have other options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,191 Posted September 5, 2012 I'm prolly going to bench him in my flex for either McGahee or Lance Moore (PPR). He's a big risk/reward until we see how things shake out in NE -- I'd hate to leave a ton of points on my bench, but I'd had a 2 for 29 stat line as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted September 5, 2012 Tom Brady, Brandon Lloyd still trying to build chemistry as regular season approaches By Nick Underhill | CBSSports.com On paper Brandon Lloyd and Tom Brady should be as compatible as any quarterback-wide receiver duo in the NFL. Brady is one of the most accurate passers in the league and Lloyd has proven to be a reliable down-field target in stops with the Broncos and Rams. But on the field the chemistry between the two can only be classified as awkward as they remain stuck in a feeling out process with the regular season on the horizon. The two didn't see much action together during the preseason and as recently as two weeks ago, Lloyd stated that he felt no chemistry with Brady. Things have since turned around and Lloyd is beginning to feel more comfortable with his quarterback, but the Patriots' duo admits that they may not be fully in sync in time for Sunday's opener against the Titans. "It's one of those things where the relationship is going to see more maturity during the season and as the season goes on," Lloyd said. "That's when the confidence gets really built. But the practices have been well and we've been making progress." Lloyd, who caught one pass for 12 yards during the preseason, was unwilling to say what his expectations for Sunday are or if he feels that he'll be able to make an instant impact, though he is enthused by the consistency he's been gaining behind the scenes in practice. "The practice film, being consistent, being good at the basics of the offense -- I think that's what it comes down to," Lloyd said. "When we get out on Sundays and all the things that we've put together to be successful, that's what it comes down to. I think by me saying 'we'll see' is a fair statement, because we haven't all been out getting live action together." Brady echoed Lloyd's sentiments. He agrees that the connection between the two wasn't instant, but he's confident that they can make something happen on the field when it counts. Now he wants to prove it. "You don't know, but you have confidence that you can do it when it matters," Brady said. "Like I said, everything needs to be proven; it's not like the predictions you make on Wednesday all come true." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unloopme 4 Posted September 5, 2012 I know a B.Lloyd owner who justified the lack of preseason production to NE holding him back as a weapon to not "show" him to other teams. I didn't see the grand logic in that, but he's they type of person that will argue his point until YOUR face melts...so I simply said, "we'll see." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 148 Posted September 5, 2012 I know a B.Lloyd owner who justified the lack of preseason production to NE holding him back as a weapon to not "show" him to other teams. I didn't see the grand logic in that, but he's they type of person that will argue his point until YOUR face melts...so I simply said, "we'll see." Ehh...I'm not sure there's much truth to that but it wouldn't shock me either. The Jets did this with Tebow's wildcat package. They had him vanilla under center, all pre season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,425 Posted September 5, 2012 Lloyd has always had questionable work ethic and desire to stay on the field. If he doesnt put every bit of effort into this season belichik will not hesitate to put him in the dog house. Belichik does not stand for anything but maximum effort. I am going to name drop but o well. I dont know if most of you know who rob ninkovich (spelling?) Is but he plays on the d line and sometimes at LB for the pats. I went to high school with him and played football with him my freshman year. He definitwly wasnt the best guy in high school on our defense but he had a high motor and never quit. He is a perfect fit work ethic wise for belichiks system. Obviously he has talent or he wouldnt play but his never stop attitude has landed him on one of the best teans in the league, one that had trouble on defense last year. Not sure if he is still on the team though. Lloyd hasnt been a guy that belongs in the good attitude or work through pain list, or at least before he got to denver. I dont put him in the same talent level as the other options in NE. I think it goes 1 of 3 ways for lloyd. He gets the benefit of everyone trying to cover the other options and has a bif year, definitely possible since he did it with orton. Teams respect the deep ball and keep him in check while allowing welker to run wild underneath. He goes the route of chad and is benched since he iant getting enough attention and gives up on being a decoy every play. I am covering most of the bases but we will have to see which comes true. I did not draft him in any league and expect brady to trust his other more supremely talented targets. We also have to consider the possibility that the o line doesnt block well enough to allow lloyd to get down field forcing more underneath plays. If you are honestly concerned about the line i would avoid lloyd as i see him being impacted the most from the o line play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted September 5, 2012 I think in a couple weeks, maybe even next week, people will be laughing at this question. Those TE's are great weapons, but they're not going to stretch the field like Lloyd can. So how long will it take for Tom Brady and this guy to develop chemistry? I think a 60 yard TD pass might do it pretty quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ru93 0 Posted September 5, 2012 I think in a couple weeks, maybe even next week, people will be laughing at this question. Those TE's are great weapons, but they're not going to stretch the field like Lloyd can. So how long will it take for Tom Brady and this guy to develop chemistry? I think a 60 yard TD pass might do it pretty quickly. I keeping telling myself that I should start Ridley over Lloyd but I can see Lloyd having 3 catches for 65 and a TD or something...he adds that big play threat. I look at the TD's though that Green-Ellis had last season and think that Ridley can do something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 148 Posted September 5, 2012 I keeping telling myself that I should start Ridley over Lloyd but I can see Lloyd having 3 catches for 65 and a TD or something...he adds that big play threat. I look at the TD's though that Green-Ellis had last season and think that Ridley can do something like that. That's my debate at flex. Ridley or Lloyd. I think Ridley has a better shot at a td so that is probably my call...we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deefree93 0 Posted September 5, 2012 That's my debate at flex. Ridley or Lloyd. I think Ridley has a better shot at a td so that is probably my call...we'll see. Just read on rotoworld that Vereen hasn't practiced since Aug. 24. Should be a good news for Ridley's early season value. Im rollin with him over Hillis at the Flex this week. "Shane Vereen (foot) was absent from Patriots practice Wednesday. Vereen hasn't practiced since August 24, and is beginning to look very dicey for Week 1. Stevan Ridley is locked in as the Patriots' No. 1 back." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 444 Posted September 5, 2012 Tom Brady, Brandon Lloyd still trying to build chemistry as regular season approaches By Nick Underhill | CBSSports.com On paper Brandon Lloyd and Tom Brady should be as compatible as any quarterback-wide receiver duo in the NFL. Brady is one of the most accurate passers in the league and Lloyd has proven to be a reliable down-field target in stops with the Broncos and Rams. But on the field the chemistry between the two can only be classified as awkward as they remain stuck in a feeling out process with the regular season on the horizon. The two didn't see much action together during the preseason and as recently as two weeks ago, Lloyd stated that he felt no chemistry with Brady. Things have since turned around and Lloyd is beginning to feel more comfortable with his quarterback, but the Patriots' duo admits that they may not be fully in sync in time for Sunday's opener against the Titans. "It's one of those things where the relationship is going to see more maturity during the season and as the season goes on," Lloyd said. "That's when the confidence gets really built. But the practices have been well and we've been making progress." Lloyd, who caught one pass for 12 yards during the preseason, was unwilling to say what his expectations for Sunday are or if he feels that he'll be able to make an instant impact, though he is enthused by the consistency he's been gaining behind the scenes in practice. "The practice film, being consistent, being good at the basics of the offense -- I think that's what it comes down to," Lloyd said. "When we get out on Sundays and all the things that we've put together to be successful, that's what it comes down to. I think by me saying 'we'll see' is a fair statement, because we haven't all been out getting live action together." Brady echoed Lloyd's sentiments. He agrees that the connection between the two wasn't instant, but he's confident that they can make something happen on the field when it counts. Now he wants to prove it. "You don't know, but you have confidence that you can do it when it matters," Brady said. "Like I said, everything needs to be proven; it's not like the predictions you make on Wednesday all come true." Sounds like Lloyd has the ol' Patriot/Bellichek/Brady "talk but don't say anything" interview down pat already. If he can pick up the "say nothing" interview this quick, he just might have a good grasp of this offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricBoogaloo 1 Posted September 6, 2012 I have Lloyd and considered sitting him at the flex for KSmith or KWright, but I think the Pats are playing angry his yr. This may be the yr Brady goes for 5000/50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peyton's Daddy 0 Posted September 6, 2012 Yeah and Gronk only caught one pass in pre-season last year to. Don't believe in what you read...you are falling into Belichick's mind games. Hey but don't listen to me cough cough Lloyd owner here. PD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kicked in the zombos 0 Posted September 6, 2012 was really high on Lloyd as a number 2 wr this year but now that I own him I'm taking a wait and see approach and going with Decker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeWeasel 0 Posted September 6, 2012 After great camp reports Brady to Lloyd didn't show much in the preseason. 4 targets...1 catch I believe. Are you guys taking a wait and see approach on Lloyd, if you have that option, or are you starting him right out of the gate? I think that for most teams that have him he will probably be a must start option this week but I could see someone talking themselves into someone like K. Wright over Lloyd or something. Pats fan here. I'm sitting Lloyd for AJ Green and Miles Austin. Hopefully Lloyd becomes a big weapon for the Pats, but there's no evidence that he's a contributor yet. Wait and see IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 148 Posted September 6, 2012 My decesion is coming down to Stevie vs Revis or Lloyd in a PPR. Stevie seems safer...even if he gets 'shut down' 5-50...and 10 points seems like a floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,425 Posted September 6, 2012 My decesion is coming down to Stevie vs Revis or Lloyd in a PPR. Stevie seems safer...even if he gets 'shut down' 5-50...and 10 points seems like a floor. Donald jones may be the beneficiary of revis island all over stevie. I think lloyd is safer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites