Unfit for Work: the startling rise of disability in America

[jerryskids 6,827]

Most of you are confusing disability and workers comp.

 

Let's review:

 

I have a herniated disk in my lower back, which at times causes sciatica, which is an extreme pain. When I am experiencing bad sciatica, it's hard for me to do much of anything but lie down with ice on my back. 100% of the time I cannot stand for long periods of time, so I couldn't be a bar tender or a waiter.

 

I know about the nightmares veterans have. I understand it. I was in group therapy for a year after 9.11. There's something about seeing a bunch of people jump to their death on your way to work one day ... messes you up for good. I think I have PTSD, and likely am clinically a manic depressive (bi polar) but I have never been diagnosed as such. My brother's suicide also contributes to both of those things.

 

I applied for disability, took over a year, and was denied. Appealed, denied.

 

Even though I work for my Mom, and she understands that sometimes I just need to go lay down ... I'm really unable to work any full time job. Lately the sciatica has really been flaring up, and I am in constant pain. Prolly gonna file again, and hire a lawyer this time. I am not making any of this up.

 

Are there people scamming the system? Absolutely, and that's prolly why so many people that are legit disabled get denied.

The pain is all in your head. I know you don't want to fix it, because if you did you'd have to stop mooching, but if you ever did, read this book:

 

Healing Back Pain

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Rampant mismanagement, and the only response is 'bush did it too'

 

So juvenile. Wouldn't fly anywhere but .gov

 

No you misunderstand. EVERYONE has done it. From both parties. It ain't a Bush thing, it ain't an Obama thing, it ain't a Clinton thing, it wouldn't have been a Romney thing.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

No you misunderstand. EVERYONE has done it. From both parties. It ain't a Bush thing, it ain't an Obama thing, it ain't a Clinton thing, it wouldn't have been a Romney thing.

 

My favorite part of the article was that there are legitimate companies who's job is to game the system. Not that's entrepreneurial spirit.

[nikki2200 4]

I have had 2 herniated disks in my neck repaired, that's right in my neck and my l5s1 is herniated also, i also have sciatica. I have never applied for or collected a check or assistance in any form, or workmans comp. ....bottom line is, you're a mooching lazy crybaby poosay

 

I wonder how badly his back acts up when he's sitting at a poker table for 8 hours.

 

I have a herniated disk in my upper back. I will admit I did miss work because of it a couple times (unpaid because I worked for myself) when I was completely an invalid, but most of the time I drug my handicapped ass out of bed, not even being able to turn my head more than about an inch, took a bunch of drugs, and powered through because I had stuff to do and couldn't miss work because people were counting on me to be there. My client was even nice enough to get me a special ergonomic chair that they paid for because they knew I was suffering from back problems, and I wasn't even an employee. There was another guy I worked with that got one of those bouncy balls to sit on because sitting in a regular chair all day was hard on his back. If you work in an office job, such as being a graphic designer, having a bad back in no way shape or form precludes you from being able to work. You get up and walk around if it starts bothering you. If you need to lay down, you go to a conference room for 12 minutes and stretch out. If you determine you can't ever have a job again because your back hurts, you are a focking poosay.

 

That's all.

[nikki2200 4]

The pain is all in your head. I know you don't want to fix it, because if you did you'd have to stop mooching, but if you ever did, read this book:

 

Healing Back Pain

 

Oh jerry....

[jerryskids 6,827]

Oh jerry....

Yes?

[nikki2200 4]

Yes?

 

You and your pain is all mental crapola....

[cbfalcon 825]

The pain is all in your head. I know you don't want to fix it, because if you did you'd have to stop mooching, but if you ever did, read this book:

 

Healing Back Pain

 

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Are you basing that on something or is it just your Obama-is-bad mindset coming out?

It just seems that in this entitlement day and age it would be easier.

Mebbe a little of the Obama-is-bad mindset also.

[nikki2200 4]

It just seems that in this entitlement day and age it would be easier.

Mebbe a little of the Obama-is-bad mindset also.

 

You seemed to be doing pretty well sucking the .gov teet for a couple of years.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

It just seems that in this entitlement day and age it would be easier.

Mebbe a little of the Obama-is-bad mindset also.

 

Your bias blinds you.

 

Tell me, if this is just an Obama thing, how come we haven't heard one peep about it from Republicans?

[SUXBNME 1,515]

You seemed to be doing pretty well sucking the .gov teet for a couple of years.

I felt that I deserved it for as many years as I "put into it".

In all reality, I became a lazy POS. I don't blame .gov for that, but myself.

For the record, it wasn't a couple of years, but close enough, I guess.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Your bias blinds you.

 

Tell me, if this is just an Obama thing, how come we haven't heard one peep about it from Republicans?

Because your mom sucks canal water?

[nikki2200 4]

I felt that I deserved it for as many years as I "put into it".

In all reality, I became a lazy POS. I don't blame .gov for that, but myself.

For the record, it wasn't a couple of years, but close enough, I guess.

 

You didn't "put anything into" your unemployment benefits.

 

So you blame yourself for being a lazy POS for the fact that you sat around for almost 2 years collecting a .gov paycheck and not even a little bit trying to look for work, but when other people do it, it's Obama's fault?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

You didn't "put anything into" your unemployment benefits.

 

So you blame yourself for being a lazy POS for the fact that you sat around for almost 2 years collecting a .gov paycheck and not even a little bit trying to look for work, but when other people do it, it's Obama's fault?

 

Obama MADE Sux lay around like a POS, just like he made Phurfur mooch off his wife's pension

[SUXBNME 1,515]

You didn't "put anything into" your unemployment benefits.

 

So you blame yourself for being a lazy POS for the fact that you sat around for almost 2 years collecting a .gov paycheck and not even a little bit trying to look for work, but when other people do it, it's Obama's fault?

I never blamed Obama for my plight

If you re-read my post to Newbie I was trying to say that under the current admin, it's prolly easier to apply and get paid for disability. Real or imagined.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Yes, I know that I didn't personally "put anything into" my unemployment. The employer does. Hence my quotes on the phrase.

[jerryskids 6,827]

You and your pain is all mental crapola....

You said yourself that he can sit and play poker all day.

 

Also, do you ever wonder why we as a species didn't have this back pain epidemic until the past 20 years or so? Or why it doesn't happen in some other countries?

[nikki2200 4]

I never blamed Obama for my plight

If you re-read my post to Newbie I was trying to say that under the current admin, it's prolly easier to apply and get paid for disability. Real or imagined.

 

If you read the article talking about this phenomenon, you're prolly not right. HTH!

 

It is all about the state led push to get people OFF of state funded programs and onto SSD which is federally funded.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

If you read the article talking about this phenomenon, you're prolly not right. HTH!

 

It is all about the state led push to get people OFF of state funded programs and onto SSD which is federally funded.

I didn't read the article. I was just interjecting a random thought I had.

[mobb_deep 920]

The bored republicans hate when anyone else but them receive .gov assistance. But only for the good of America, of course. Shocking.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I didn't read the article. I was just interjecting a random thought I had.

 

[nikki2200 4]

You said yourself that he can sit and play poker all day.

 

Also, do you ever wonder why we as a species didn't have this back pain epidemic until the past 20 years or so? Or why it doesn't happen in some other countries?

 

I know. It's just that I think that philosophy is kind of voodooish. However, I do know for a fact that my back acts up as a direct result of stress. I think when my muscles tighten due to stress, it puts pressure on my spine which is what causes the incapacitating issue. I haven't had an outbreak in the past two years or so, and I am a lot less stressed than I used to be. I just think it's a bit weird to say it is all mental.

 

My original point was that GFIAFP was a liar, though. Not necessarily that he needed to look for ways to heal his back pain.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Really?

 

I disagreed with what Newbie said in one post and posted a statement of my thoughts based on his statement. I even said that "I don't know for a fact".

Just because I didn't read the article doesn't mean that I can't have an opinion on his post, does it?

 

The percentage of disability cases in relation to the unemployment rate, is on par to where it's always been

I disagreed with that. I didn't ask him for links, call him a retarded liberal, etc..

 

What difference does it make if I read the article or not in this case?

[nikki2200 4]

What difference does it make if I read the article or not in this case?

 

None at all if you are trying to be an uninformed mouth breathing rhetoric spewing hack.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

None at all if you are trying to be an uninformed mouth breathing rhetoric spewing hack.

mouf...not mouth

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Really?

 

I disagreed with what Newbie said in one post and posted a statement of my thoughts based on his statement. I even said that "I don't know for a fact".

Just because I didn't read the article doesn't mean that I can't have an opinion on his post, does it?

 

Just because you didn't read the article DOES mean you can't have an informed opinion on it.

 

Whatever. Read the article. It's good, and important.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Just because you didn't read the article DOES mean you can't have an informed opinion on it.

 

Whatever. Read the article. It's good, and important.

 

And it has some nice pictures Sux, you like pictures.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

And it has some nice pictures Sux, you like pictures.

 

They're not kitty pictures though

[jerryskids 6,827]

I know. It's just that I think that philosophy is kind of voodooish. However, I do know for a fact that my back acts up as a direct result of stress. I think when my muscles tighten due to stress, it puts pressure on my spine which is what causes the incapacitating issue. I haven't had an outbreak in the past two years or so, and I am a lot less stressed than I used to be. I just think it's a bit weird to say it is all mental.

 

My original point was that GFIAFP was a liar, though. Not necessarily that he needed to look for ways to heal his back pain.

You are right about the stress, although if you read the book, the mechanism is a little different than you describe.

 

Also, I don't doubt that GF has back pain. It is common for the pain to manifest itself in certain situations and not others. Which reminds me to say, the pain is most definitely real. I think sometimes people think I'm saying that the pain doesn't exist. I know it does, as does my wife, because we both had the problem before we learned the cause.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Can't you just see jerry and his wife giving a moonbat testimonial on some ludicrous infomercial?

[mobb_deep 920]

Weird that you're all talking about back pain, because I'm going to get an MRI on my back tomorrow. Been dealing with crippling pain down my back and right leg for 3 months straight. Been seeing a chiro, massages, acupuncture, etc. etc. with no improvement. Finally went to my dr. this week.

 

All sorts of jacked up on norco and valium right now. Wheeeeeee.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Weird that you're all talking about back pain, because I'm going to get an MRI on my back tomorrow. Been dealing with crippling pain down my back and right leg for 3 months straight.

 

All sorts of jacked up on norco and valium right now. Wheeeeeee.

 

Herniated disc? Or rather do you just THINK you have a herniated disc?

[nikki2200 4]

You are right about the stress, although if you read the book, the mechanism is a little different than you describe.

 

Also, I don't doubt that GF has back pain. It is common for the pain to manifest itself in certain situations and not others. Which reminds me to say, the pain is most definitely real. I think sometimes people think I'm saying that the pain doesn't exist. I know it does, as does my wife, because we both had the problem before we learned the cause.

 

See the reason I have a problem with this reasoning is there is a clear and definitive beginning to my back pain, which for most of the people I know is the case too. I fell down a flight of stairs and displaced a disk in my back. That's not mental. That was me being a spaz and tripping over myself while walking down the stairs in 6 inch heels and landing in a position that sent a shooting pain through my spine. That's the exact moment my "back pain" started. My ex-BF hurt his back lifting weights and had to get surgery. My uncle was in construction and lifted something heavy and ruptured two disks in his back and has never been the same since. Almost everyone in my immediate circle that suffers from "back pain" has a clearly defined incident where an injury was involved that was the beginning of the phenomenon.

 

Like I said, I think stress can obviously aggravate it. I'm not a doctor but inflamation, muscle tightening, etc., all play a role. I just really don't think you can will away an injury. In the case of suffering from random inexplicable pain, like fibromyalgia for example, I honestly do believe it is all mental, even though the pain is real. So I understand the concept. But just to say everyone with pain can mentally make it go away because it is a manifestation of something else, just seems a little too philosophical and zen.

 

As for GFIAFP, considering his laundry list of excuses on why he cannot be a productive citizen, coupled with the fact that he's claiming he can't sit at a desk all day, while littering the bored with tales of sitting at poker tables for hours on end.... I'm just not about to jump aboard the train that he is being truthful about all of this and really does have debilitating pain that prevents him from getting a job.

[mobb_deep 920]

Herniated disc? Or rather do you just THINK you have a herniated disc?

 

Haha. I hope it's nothing! The thought of living the rest of my life like Gary and Chris is scary as hell!

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Just because you didn't read the article DOES mean you can't have an informed opinion on it.

 

Whatever. Read the article. It's good, and important.

I made a comment to Newbs based on his statement. The article had absolutely nothing to do with anything as far as my post was concerned.

Pretend that the article didn't exist and Newbs made that statement on his own, cause nowhere in his his statement did he reference the article. He gave an opinion and I countered with my own opinion.

 

suck a dik

[nikki2200 4]

I made a comment to Newbs based on his statement. The article had absolutely nothing to do with anything as far as my post was concerned.

Pretend that the article didn't exist and Newbs made that statement on his own, cause nowhere in his his statement did he reference the article. He gave an opinion and I countered with my own opinion.

 

suck a dik

 

It wasn't an opinion. It was directly from the article.

 

Holy focking hell.

 

This is really why you need to stick with cat videos and stories of crapping yourself.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Haha. I hope it's nothing! The thought of living the rest of my life like Gary and Chris is scary as hell!

Which Chris? Be careful here

 

Also,m I'm gonna go kill people in a few minutes...You game?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Haha. I hope it's nothing! The thought of living the rest of my life like Gary and Chris is scary as hell!

 

It sounds like a herniated disc in my amateur opinion. When it happened to me I was worried about ending up crippled too but it turned out fine after months of physical therapy. I dunno, maybe you might need surgery but it seems like these days they try to avoid that if they can.

[mobb_deep 920]

It sounds like a herniated disc in my amateur opinion. When it happened to me I was worried about ending up crippled too but it turned out fine after months of physical therapy. I dunno, maybe you might need surgery but it seems like these days they try to avoid that if they can.

 

I got an MRI 5 years back an they said I had something called "disc extrusion" in my L5/S1 and "degenerative disc disease". Not really sure what either of those are.