brownsseasonticketholder 1 Posted August 17, 2014 PPR league, 5th pick. Keep Forte and lose my first or keep Keenan and lose my last pick. Keenan obviously is great value but I feel there's a decent drop after the top 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted August 17, 2014 Keep Forte & it's not close at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatGray 2 Posted August 17, 2014 Who else is likely to be there as an option at 5th? And how many teams total? Assuming just 1 keeper...? A lot would depend on the keepers likely for other teams, and how picks will be expected to play out ahead of you. I disagree with the above post in general-- it's not so clear cut--but will somewhat depend on the details of who else is being kept. If all the "good guys" are kept, Forte becomes more valuable; if he's going to end up on a team that's already holding a high-value keeper, even more so. In which case I'd be more likely to keep him But Allen should be a high volume WR and has some great upside. I would not discount Allen, and we're talking about a couple pick difference from obvious top tier PPR RB to the next best option available at pick 5, which in PPR you start looking at the WRs. Allen will go, what maybe 4th-ish round ADP? Forte is the safe pick for sure, but Allen is the ballsy pick. I actually like Allen if you can get a top tier WR with your first pick. Not the safest, but could pay big returns. Kind of the point of the Keeper League thing, IMO (this is gambling, after all!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,515 Posted August 17, 2014 I have Forte listed as my number one RB, so that would also be my move . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted August 17, 2014 Forte is probably the best option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 269 Posted August 17, 2014 - methinks Forte is about to string together a few seasons that will be LT2-esque. he's THAT good, and Chicago's offense is gonna be scary good no contest, imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted August 17, 2014 Pretty common keeper league dilemma here, and based on having had to make similar choices many times over the years, I would say Allen. Forte is better than Allen, but I don't know that he's 15 rounds better. If you lose your first pick to hold on to him, you're just getting him at value. Maybe 1/2 to 1 round of value to account for other keepers in your league. Allen for your 15th/16th/whatever pick, though? That's a 12/13-round bump for a guy most expect to be a high-end WR2 flirting with WR1 status this year. One thing that might change the call is how many keepers each team gets. If each team keeps 4 guys, then the pool of leftovers is really thinned out and Forte increases in value. If it's just keep 1, you're going to be staring at someone good at 1.05 and may even be able to get Forte back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted August 17, 2014 I agree with tigers. The value for me would just be too great to pass up with Allen. If he was a 7 or 8th rounder, then I'd say go safe. But Allen for the last pick in the draft is just too good to pass up. Like everyone else said though. We need alittle more info on the number of keepers, and who you think will be available for that 5th pick. But if it's a 1 keeper league, and thats your choice. Allen it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brownsseasonticketholder 1 Posted August 17, 2014 Everyone keeps just one player. 10 team league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted August 17, 2014 Everyone keeps just one player. 10 team league. Then Allen it is for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted August 17, 2014 Keeping Allen just because of his value is stupid. If you can keep a top 4-5 overall pick for basically face value, why wouldn't you? If you kept Allen - I'm pretty sure you wouldn't come close to drafting a RB with similar #s & upside as Forte. Whereas I could name at least a half dozen WRs that will darn near mirror Allen's #s. You never throw back a guaranteed first round pick (@ face value) for a guy that offers a higher discount ONLY. That would be the only reason...basically to brag how cheap you got Allen. Big FOCKIN deal. Keep Forte & quit listening to some of these goofs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted August 17, 2014 Keeping Allen just because of his value is stupid. If you can keep a top 4-5 overall pick for basically face value, why wouldn't you? If you kept Allen - I'm pretty sure you wouldn't come close to drafting a RB with similar #s & upside as Forte. Whereas I could name at least a half dozen WRs that will darn near mirror Allen's #s. You never throw back a guaranteed first round pick (@ face value) for a guy that offers a higher discount ONLY. That would be the only reason...basically to brag how cheap you got Allen. Big FOCKIN deal. Keep Forte & quit listening to some of these goofs. Sure, there are half a dozen WRs who'll mirror Allen's numbers...and he can take another one with his 3rd or 4th round pick and have two of them. It's such a huge bonus to get Keenan Allen where most people are drafting their kicker that, yes, it absolutely justifies sending Forte back. Hell, if teams 1-4 keep their 1st rounders or have different priorities (Calvin Johnson? Peyton Manning?), he might even get Forte back on his team with 1.05! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brownsseasonticketholder 1 Posted August 17, 2014 There's a chance I could get Forte at 1.05 but I'm not sure. I could see Peyton or Calvin going ahead of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,218 Posted August 17, 2014 for a last round pick? Allen, hands down. that value is crazy. think of it this way. would you rather have Forte + 16th round pick or 1st round pick + Allen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted August 17, 2014 for a last round pick? Allen, hands down. that value is crazy. think of it this way. would you rather have Forte + 16th round pick or 1st round pick + Allen? Ok - look at it this way: Alfred Morris/Doug Martin & Allen or Forte & Roddy/Cruz or even Allen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted August 17, 2014 You guys are getting too caught up in value. I'm not disputing Allen's value...I agree, it's stupid good...pretty much free. Dog schit is also free yet no one walks around picking it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted August 17, 2014 Ok - look at it this way: Alfred Morris/Doug Martin & Allen or Forte & Roddy/Cruz or even Allen Except it's more like Alfred Morris and Allen AND Roddy White. Getting to keep a starter for a last round pick is basically getting a free upper-tier player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted August 17, 2014 There's a pile over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brownsseasonticketholder 1 Posted August 18, 2014 You guys haven't convinced me either way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brownsseasonticketholder 1 Posted August 18, 2014 I'm leaning keeping Keenan and taking Forte if he's there at 1.05. If not, I'll get Calvin or Lacy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites