thePRO 78 Posted October 5, 2014 At this point who's going to do better?? And if you are the owner of either, would you trade for the other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 5, 2014 I have lacy...I wouldn't trade him for McCoy right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 5, 2014 Neither, your record is probably so bad if you own either or it doesn't matter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 5, 2014 Neither, your record is probably so bad if you own either or it doesn't matter. 3-1 going into this week in both leagues I own Lacy. So...nice try, but you are incorrect. Lacy owner in my other leagues is also no worse than 2-2 going into this week and doing well this week because of what Lacy did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishvic 0 Posted October 5, 2014 About to be 4-1 in my McCoy league. Parlayed Manny Sanders, Moreno, and Asiata into Jordy (AP owner panic trade). Picked up Phil Rivers off the wire early Drafted Gio Bernard Traded Julio/Deangelo for Demaryius and Gore this week. My business is preying on weak owners and teams. If you're letting mccoy bring your entire team down, that's a you problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 5, 2014 Neither, your record is probably so bad if you own either or it doesn't matter. Eh, kind of a stupid post. Just depends how the rest of your draft looks because many of the 1st round picks have struggled this season. Hoping to be 3-2 after this week thanks to Brown, Cobb, and Bennett mostly and I'm a Lacy owner. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 5, 2014 Eh, kind of a stupid post. Just depends how the rest of your draft looks because many of the 1st round picks have struggled this season. Thanks Captain Obvious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishvic 0 Posted October 5, 2014 Ah poor baby, is that butt hurt I smell? It's on the owner if they let McCoy or Lacy get them down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 6, 2014 Thanks Captain Obvious Well apparently it's not obvious to you if you assume every team with Lacy or McCoy is probably doing "so bad". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 6, 2014 Well apparently it's not obvious to you if you assume every team with Lacy or McCoy is probably doing "so bad". Thanks for your anecdotal input, I'll take it under advisement. You also seem to have trouble with reading comprehension, there was a "probably" in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 6, 2014 Thanks for your anecdotal input, I'll take it under advisement. You also seem to have trouble with reading comprehension, there was a "probably" in there. Well apparently it's not obvious to you if you assume every team with Lacy or McCoy is probably doing "so bad". Probably means almost certain. So maybe you need to work on your vocabulary awareness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishvic 0 Posted October 6, 2014 Careful he has a blonde in his avatar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 6, 2014 Probably means almost certain. So maybe you need to work on your vocabulary awareness. So, it is your contention that most people who wasted a pick on one of those 2 players are doing just fine? Not sure where we are going with this.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 6, 2014 So, it is your contention that most people who wasted a pick on one of those 2 players are doing just fine? Not sure where we are going with this.. I guess what I'm trying to say is that since many of the 1st round picks have struggled, the lackluster performance of Lacy and McCoy will not have as big of an impact on teams as it normally would. We have McCoy, Lacy, Calvin Johnson, Peterson, Graham, Charles (injury), and depending on drafts D. Thomas or Ball have struggled too. That's 8/12 first round picks. Therefore I think McCoy and Lacy owners have just as much of a chance as the others to have started off well if they drafted decently. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 6, 2014 I guess what I'm trying to say is that since many of the 1st round picks have struggled, the lackluster performance of Lacy and McCoy will not have as big of an impact on teams as it normally would. We have McCoy, Lacy, Calvin Johnson, Peterson, Graham, Charles (injury), and depending on drafts D. Thomas or Ball have struggled too. That's 8/12 first round picks. Therefore I think McCoy and Lacy owners have just as much of a chance as the others to have started off well if they drafted decently. I can get with that. Signed, Frustrated owner 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAA 12 Posted October 11, 2014 I'll be the first to actually answer the question: I'll vote for Lacy. (whom I already own) Offered McCoy today for R Matthews and B Oliver. Not sure if I should take it, which is why I checked out this thread. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillygrrl08 139 Posted October 11, 2014 I'll be the first to actually answer the question: I'll vote for Lacy. (whom I already own) Offered McCoy today for R Matthews and B Oliver. Not sure if I should take it, which is why I checked out this thread. Thoughts? I'd wait and see if he can do something against the Giants Sunday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 11, 2014 I started this thread because I think McCoy is a great player and the owner offered him for Lacy. I couldn't pull the trigger because McCoy has now struggled 5 games in a row? That's a pattern and not a fluke. He's still going to have some big games, but I think we'll see some of those ugly games too. I'll be the first to actually answer the question: I'll vote for Lacy. (whom I already own) Offered McCoy today for R Matthews and B Oliver. Not sure if I should take it, which is why I checked out this thread. Thoughts? I would still stick with McCoy because chances are you won't start both Matthews and Oliver together. So essentially you're getting a 1 for 1 trade and there's no sure lock that Matthews comes in strong like last year. He didn't look great at the start anyway. And with Oliver breaking out, you might see split carries, where McCoy still gets a solid bulk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted October 11, 2014 So, it is your contention that most people who wasted a pick on one of those 2 players are doing just fine? Not sure where we are going with this.. Who cares, there are more important issues to address. For example, the chick in your avatar. Obviously a cousin, because there is no way you could land her with that face God and your alcoholic mother gave you. Do you have any nudes of her you would like to trade for overpriced sunglasses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 11, 2014 Who cares, there are more important issues to address. For example, the chick in your avatar. Obviously a cousin, because there is no way you could land her with that face God and your alcoholic mother gave you. Do you have any nudes of her you would like to trade for overpriced sunglasses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking14 5 Posted October 11, 2014 McCoy is not the same runner. He cannot make people miss or run away from people. Part of the problem is the offensive line, but not all. There is no way he is healthy. I used my 3rd position in the draft to take him - so I hope for a miracle to happen. By the way Lacy was the #1 pick, Green Bay fan.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 12, 2014 Outside of the opinion of homers with extremely rose colored glasses it's time to come to grips with Lacy. Slow plodder with a low ceiling that simply can't be relied on. GB had to switch to Starks full time late in the game because of how ineffective Lacy is and was. It's week 6, he is what he is at this point. Too many factors have to fall perfectly for this guy to even have a respectable performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,457 Posted October 12, 2014 Who cares, there are more important issues to address. For example, the chick in your avatar. Obviously a cousin, because there is no way you could land her with that face God and your alcoholic mother gave you. Do you have any nudes of her you would like to trade for overpriced sunglasses? He has a large schlong and makes 7 figures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 12, 2014 Outside of the opinion of homers with extremely rose colored glasses it's time to come to grips with Lacy. Slow plodder with a low ceiling that simply can't be relied on. GB had to switch to Starks full time late in the game because of how ineffective Lacy is and was. It's week 6, he is what he is at this point. Too many factors have to fall perfectly for this guy to even have a respectable performance. He is what he is .... Perfect analys As you said He just needs everything exactly right to succeed on a run to run basis and get a full good game. He is just like Trich almost exactly except maybe a little better on second level but at line if scrimmage painful to watch at times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 GB oline was overwhelmed again by an opposing dline. Neither starks, nor lacy did squat in the run game. Starks was not full time late...he was in as a quicker back to be able to run after the catch. It was a no huddle drive...of course he was in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted October 13, 2014 If McCoy shiiiits the bed again tonight, heads will explode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 If McCoy shiiiits the bed again tonight, heads will explode Nice start for mcCoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted October 13, 2014 Nice start for mcCoy Great start 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 13, 2014 GB oline was overwhelmed again by an opposing dline. Neither starks, nor lacy did squat in the run game. Starks was not full time late...he was in as a quicker back to be able to run after the catch. It was a no huddle drive...of course he was in there. Like I said, disregarding homer opinions, you simply don't have the ability to look at the guy objectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 Like I said, disregarding homer opinions, you simply don't have the ability to look at the guy objectively.So the line was good? Im such a homer that I criticize the.oline and rightfully point out that Starks wasn't effective either. Id say you should find something to talk about that you can speak intelligently about, but I really dont know if such a topic exists. Lacy is not a speed back, but isn't just a plodder. The Oline has struggled opening holes at times. Lacy has also.danced too much at times. He is not a back that will typically do well on 15 or so carries. But for the bulk of this game, he still had twice the carries that starks had. He is the lead back and will continue to be so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 13, 2014 So the line was good? Im such a homer that I criticize the.oline and rightfully point out that Starks wasn't effective either. Id say you should find something to talk about that you can speak intelligently about, but I really dont know if such a topic exists. Lacy is not a speed back, but isn't just a plodder. The Oline has struggled opening holes at times. Lacy has also.danced too much at times. He is not a back that will typically do well on 15 or so carries. But for the bulk of this game, he still had twice the carries that starks had. He is the lead back and will continue to be so. Not shocking that you missed the entire point of my first post today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 Where you called him a slow plodder with a low ceiling. Sure...disagree with every single part of that. And Starks didn't take over full time...so you were wrong there too. You should quit now...you are digging yourself into a hole you can't get out of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 13, 2014 Where you called him a slow plodder with a low ceiling. Sure...disagree with every single part of that. And Starks didn't take over full time...so you were wrong there too. You should quit now...you are digging yourself into a hole you can't get out of. Yes he did take over full time late, except for one play late on the goal line. The analysis of a slow plodder compared to today's starting backs is spot on. Feel bad for yourself for being ignorant of your own squad. Homers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 Yes he did take over full time late, except for one play late on the goal line. The analysis of a slow plodder compared to today's starting backs is spot on. Feel bad for yourself for being ignorant of your own squad. Homers. Full time to you means a late no huddle drive. Congrats...you prove that you have no clue. Ignorant of my own squad? Not at all. Try again...better yet, just stop embarrassing yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 13, 2014 Full time to you means a late no huddle drive. Congrats...you prove that you have no clue. Ignorant of my own squad? Not at all. Try again...better yet, just stop embarrassing yourself. Honestly, you win, I can't argue with stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 You should have quit a long time ago, rather than continuing to argue with someone who knows more about football and specifically the Green Bay Packers than you do. Instead, you kept making yourself look worse with your inability to even try refuting any point I made about the team or Lacy. Congrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 13, 2014 Outside of the opinion of homers with extremely rose colored glasses it's time to come to grips with Lacy. Slow plodder with a low ceiling that simply can't be relied on. GB had to switch to Starks full time late in the game because of how ineffective Lacy is and was. It's week 6, he is what he is at this point. Too many factors have to fall perfectly for this guy to even have a respectable performance. So last year Rodgers getting hurt was one of those chips falling into place? The Oline is a mess. How many RB's would even produce behind that Oline? Lacy is better than what you make him up to be, but not as good as the homer thinks he is. Point is, I should've made the trade and gotten McCoy. Too late now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 13, 2014 Lacy is better than what you make him up to be, but not as good as the homer thinks he is. Point is, I should've made the trade and gotten McCoy. Too late now. Possibly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted October 13, 2014 You should have quit a long time ago, rather than continuing to argue with someone who knows more about football and specifically the Green Bay Packers than you do. Instead, you kept making yourself look worse with your inability to even try refuting any point I made about the team or Lacy. Congrats. Yea, that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 13, 2014 Yea, that's it. So...then where was I incorrect. Please inform me or anyone who may actually be paying attention to what you have posted beyond the guy saying Lacy is not as bad as you make him out to be? Or going to run and hide from the facts again and continue to troll this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites