thegeneral 2,387 Posted October 29 Just now, jbycho said: Why do you keep talking about pee? Oh, Biden supporter. Never mind. Peefoam confirmed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,899 Posted October 29 46 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Even a wide scale deportation like Trump is promising would cost well into the billions of dollars. I've seen as low as 88 billion and as high as 315 billion depending on the scope of everything. There is also this about deportation: Look I understand the illegal immigration issues that are posed here but I think it is too simplistic to just say we are sending them all back and not understand it will adversely affect the economy in a bunch of ways. Deporting illegal immigrants needs to be targeted and financially sound in order to happen. Stop feeding and housing them. They’ll  go home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,723 Posted October 29 13 minutes ago, shadrap said:  So your taxes weren't cut?? Above shows who benefited which is just about everybody or are you going with the BS Dem talking point which is only tax cuts for the rich?? There is a difference between "only for the rich" and "disproportionately benefit the rich" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 159 Posted October 29 43 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: There is a difference between "only for the rich" and "disproportionately benefit the rich" stuff like your comment baffles me. Look at the tax table on the cuts. Biggest tax cuts were for lower & middle class. so did you read it wrong or intentionally displaying TDS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,588 Posted October 29 2 hours ago, Horseman said: I pinky swear jbycho is not me. Want proof?  I post all my bets in the Wagering thread, not start a new one. Go look. Yes, and the proof needs to be notarized with all parties present, accompanied by a photo. I don't care nearly as much as you wish I did. I'm really just here to be entertained, and whether there's one douche or two, or in the case of this bored several dozen, I'll be entertained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,723 Posted October 29 1 hour ago, shadrap said: stuff like your comment baffles me. Look at the tax table on the cuts. Biggest tax cuts were for lower & middle class. so did you read it wrong or intentionally displaying TDS? Because you are not seeing the forest for the trees in it all.   Quote  For those in the top 1%, who make at least $1 million, that equates to a tax cut of about $70,000, on average, in 2027. The top 0.1%, who make at least $5 million, would pocket a tax cut of nearly $280,000, on average, or about 3% of their after-tax income. Middle-income households earning between roughly $65,000 and $116,000, on the other hand, would receive a tax cut of about $1,000, or 1.3% of their income.  Again- that is why the "disproportionate" tag is important in the debate. It's not reading it wrong and it's not TDS. I would also agree someone is wrong if they think their taxes weren't cut- even though there are factors in it all By your chart the 10% threshold was raised 21.78%. The 25% bracket (now 22%) was raised 21.83%. The 39.6% bracket (now 37%) was raised 42.80%.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,905 Posted October 29 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Yes, and the proof needs to be notarized with all parties present, accompanied by a photo. I don't care nearly as much as you wish I did. I'm really just here to be entertained, and whether there's one douche or two, or in the case of this bored several dozen, I'll be entertained. Good, you can piss up a rope then.  BTW, you're horrible at written word comparisons Sherlock.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 159 Posted October 29 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: Because you are not seeing the forest for the trees in it all.   Again- that is why the "disproportionate" tag is important in the debate. It's not reading it wrong and it's not TDS. I would also agree someone is wrong if they think their taxes weren't cut- even though there are factors in it all By your chart the 10% threshold was raised 21.78%. The 25% bracket (now 22%) was raised 21.83%. The 39.6% bracket (now 37%) was raised 42.80%.   this, that, and whatever. Trump did a tax cut that put money in pretty much everyone's pocket. you want to nit pick on this & that have at it. I'll take the tax cut which if Harris get's elected you can kiss it goodbye & adios. that is that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,723 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, shadrap said: this, that, and whatever. Trump did a tax cut that put money in pretty much everyone's pocket. you want to nit pick on this & that have at it. I'll take the tax cut which if Harris get's elected you can kiss it goodbye & adios. that is that. I'm sorry that facts bother you. Again- I agreed there was a cut of some kind. I am correctly pointing out who it benefitted the most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 159 Posted October 30 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: I'm sorry that facts bother you. Again- I agreed there was a cut of some kind. I am correctly pointing out who it benefitted the most. Trump did a tax cut that benefited almost everyone. fact. you want to put some more info on that to somehow denigrate it have at it. You like higher taxes, open borders, higher crime because of mass immigration, funding other countries wars, vote for Harris. knock yourself out. cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,899 Posted October 30 Trump doubled the child tax credit. Mooney failed to mention.  Weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,723 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, shadrap said: 1.) Trump did a tax cut that benefited almost everyone. fact. 2.) you want to put some more info on that to somehow denigrate it have at it. 3.) You like higher taxes, open borders, higher crime because of mass immigration, funding other countries wars, vote for Harris. knock yourself out. cheers. 1.) Never said the tax cut didn't apply to anyone- just that it proportionally favored very wealthy people. 2.) It's a fact what I said in #1. It isn't about denigrating anything. 3.) No, no, no, not really no, maybe....I do think you misses "Libtard" or "your party" or whatever other insult you people like to throw.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,588 Posted October 30 19 hours ago, Horseman said: Good, you can piss up a rope then.  BTW, you're horrible at written word comparisons Sherlock.  I love that phrase. And thanks for the feedback, I'll keep working at it Watson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites