***Wagering thread***

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

Diggs 9 for 69 and under 89.5 like I thought.

[jerryskids 5,199]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Oregon +1.5 OSU (second half, looking good.  I know +1.5 isn't a great number but I'm just having fun with their bonus)

ASU -34.5 UNLV

ASU -20.5 UNLV 1st half (liked both of these numbers as well.  Did the half because I'm going to bed early these days)

Michigan -6.5 Washington (I married into Wolverines)

Utah -4.5 BYU 1st half (another late game, actually a real bet.  I don't love road favs but Utah has won the past 9 of these matchups, and is supposed to be pretty good this year).

 

2-3, I knew in my mind that giving those points to UNLV was not a good idea.  Anyway, I signed up for Draftkings, BetMGM, Caesars, and WynnBET.  Put some money in DraftKings and did a free money bet on BetMGM, so along with Fanduel I'll play with those 3 this weekend.  Bets so far:

Cardinals +14.5 Titans (FD, this was a boost that they gave at +100.  BTW, if you are watching this game, you know why the Titans were not favored more.

Cards/Titans u 53 (MGM, free money)

Edmonds o 23.5 yds rec (DK)

Rondale Moore o 32.5 yds rec (DK) 

I swear I bet on the Cards +3 but I can't find it.   

Well, that was easy.  4-0 for NFL, 6-3 total.

Before my head gets too big, my wife was 4-1 for the weekend.  One of the wins was a parlay.  Although I explained it to her this morning and she did it with my Moore and Edmonds plays.  She's a business analyst who understands stats (and football) so she might become good at this.   

[bostonlager 2,463]

On 9/10/2021 at 3:43 PM, bostonlager said:

My card for Sunday

Arizona - Tennessee

Derrick Henry u 9.5 receiving

AJ Brown u 5.5 receptions

Chase Edmonds u 3 receptions

Derrick Henry u 1.5 receptions

Julio Jones u 5.5 receptions

Ryan Tannehill u 31.5 pass attempts

Ryan Tannehill u 21.5 completions

Ryan Tannehill u 254.5 passing

Kyler Murray o 22.5 completions

 

Jacksonville - Houston

Laviska Shenault o 4 receptions

James Robinson o 3 receptions

Tyrod Taylor o 18.5 completions

Tyrod Taylor o 210.5 passing

 

Chargers - Redskins

Logan Thomas u 46.5 receiving

Jared Cook u 3.5 receptions

Ryan Fitzpatrick u 260.5 passing

Antonio Gibson u 69.u rushing 

 

Minnesota - Cincinnati 

Joe Mixon u 25.5 receiving

Tyler Conklin u 28.5 receiving 

Tee Higgins u 5 receptions 

 

Carolina - NYJ

Christian McCaffrey o 5.5 receptions

Zach Wilson u 240.5 passing

 

Atlanta - Philadelphia 

Devonta Smith o 49.5 receiving 

Mike Davis o 2.5 receptions

Miles Sanders u 69.5 rushing

 

Buffalo - Pittsburgh

Chase Claypool u 54.5 receiving

Dionte Johnson u 62.5 receiving 

Eric Ebron u 30.5 receiving 

Stefon Diggs u 90.5 receiving

Chase Claypool u 4.5 receptions

Stefon Diggs u 7 receptions

Ben Roethlisberger u 270.5 passing

Josh Allen u 280.5 passing 

Josh Allen u 25.5 completions

Najee Harris u 64.5 rushing 

 

San Francisco - Detroit 

Amon-Ra St Brown u 3.5 receptions

Jared Goff u 230.5 passing 

Raheem Mostert u 69.5 rushing 

 

Seattle - Indianapolis 

Jack Doyle u 24.5 receiving

Nyheim Hines u 24.5 receiving 

Gerald Everett o 2.5 receptions

Carson Wentz u 245.5 passing 

Jonathan Taylor u 69.5 rushing

Chris Carson u 60.5 rushing 

1:00 games: 27-16-1

I will take it, but some garbage time crap really screwed us out of a very nice early day. 

[Fireballer 2,381]

23 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

1:00 games: 27-16-1

I will take it, but some garbage time crap really screwed us out of a very nice early day. 

Very nice.  I'm p!ssed that I didn't jump on yours early.  Some of the RB/WR lines had moves 7-8 yards and QB lines 12-15 yards.  I just couldn't risk it.

[bostonlager 2,463]

11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Very nice.  I'm p!ssed that I didn't jump on yours early.  Some of the RB/WR lines had moves 7-8 yards and QB lines 12-15 yards.  I just couldn't risk it.

Typically they don’t release the prop lines until Sunday morning around 9:00-10:00 eastern time. I just happened to be clicking on Friday afternoon and noticed they put them up early. I don’t know if that was a week 1 only thing or if that will be the new norm. 

[listen2me 23 1,541]

20 hours ago, BeenHereBefore said:

I have Diggs under 89.5 yards for tomorrow. I think Steelers are going to blanket him after he took them to school last season.

Hey good hit I didn't see thr Bills struggling that much at all.  I still do believe Josh Allen has it.  

[bostonlager 2,463]

On 9/10/2021 at 3:43 PM, bostonlager said:

Cleveland - Kansas City 

Austin Hooper u 35.5 receiving

Clyde Edwards Helaire u 24.5 receiving 

Jarvis Landry u 58.5 receiving 

Kareem Hunt u 17.5 receiving

Odell Beckham u 56.6 receiving 

Jarvis Landry u 5.5 receptions

Odell Beckham u 4.5 receptions

Tyreek Hill u 6.5 receptions

Baker Mayfield u 265.5 passing 

 

Denver - NYG

Sterling Shepard u 49.5 receiving

Daniel Jones u 219.5 passing

 

Green Bay - New Orleans

Alvin Kamara u 47.5 receiving

Aaron Jones u 3.5 receptions

Marquez Callaway o 4 receptions

Robert Tonyan u 3.5 receptions

Jameis Winston u 256.5 passing

Aaron Rodgers u 9.5 rushing

4:00 games:   7-8  godddamn Hunt at the very end focked a winning time slot. 

 

Today: 34-24-1

Season total: 85-54-3

College season: 49-28-2

NFL season: 36-26-1

[Fireballer 2,381]

18 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

4:00 games:   7-8  godddamn Hunt at the very end focked a winning time slot. 

 

Today: 34-24-1

Season total: 85-54-3

College season: 49-28-2

NFL season: 36-26-1

You rollin any Rams/Bears props?

[bostonlager 2,463]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

You rollin any Rams/Bears props?

No. Had a nice little week and going to quit while I'm ahead. I will take a look at draftkings now and see if I see anything for you, 

[bostonlager 2,463]

If I was going to play anything on this one:

Andy Dalton u 203.5 passing 

Jimmy Graham u 17.5 receiving

 

Another reason I'm not playing anything - I'm not crazy about these, but if you're looking to gamble, they look to be the best bet. 

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

2 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Hey good hit I didn't see thr Bills struggling that much at all.  I still do believe Josh Allen has it.  

Bills are for real and Josh is as well. Just knew Steelers D wouldn't let Diggs beat them again. Steeelers D is for real as well.

[bostonlager 2,463]

3 hours ago, bostonlager said:

If I was going to play anything on this one:

Andy Dalton u 203.5 passing 

Jimmy Graham u 17.5 receiving

 

Another reason I'm not playing anything - I'm not crazy about these, but if you're looking to gamble, they look to be the best bet. 

I thought down 20 with 3 minutes left they would put Fields in leaving Dalton at 195. Nagy focked that up 

[Fireballer 2,381]

1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

I thought down 20 with 3 minutes left they would put Fields in leaving Dalton at 195. Nagy focked that up 

I actually got him at 211 on DK.  2-0.  Just enough to buy lunch tomorrow.

[bostonlager 2,463]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

I actually got him at 211 on DK.  2-0.  Just enough to buy lunch tomorrow.

Nice 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Baltimore - Las Vegas

Bryan Edwards u 39.5 receiving

Bryan Edwards u 3.5 receptions

Darren Waller u 6.5 receptions

Henry Ruggs u 3.5 receptions

Sammy Watkins u 3.5 receptions

Derek Carr u 260.5 passing

 

 

[listen2me 23 1,541]

23 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Adding Chase Edmonds over 65.5 rushing and recieving yards. (-112). 

Good luck today fellas

1-1 with the 2 props yesterday.  Shame Pitts couldn't get garbage yards.  Thr game unfolded nicely for him to go way over that total.  Just didnt happen.

2-1 YTD

[bostonlager 2,463]

4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

1-1 with the 2 props yesterday.  Shame Pitts couldn't get garbage yards.  Thr game unfolded nicely for him to go way over that total.  Just didnt happen.

2-1 YTD

I think you were on the right page with Pitts. He had 8 targets. The problem is Matt Ryan looks old as sh1t. 

[jerryskids 5,199]

Question for you more experienced folks:  looking at tonight's game I like the Raiders as a home dog at +4 and under 50.5 (DK).  So I thought let's try a parlay!  Which must be popular because DK has a tab for exactly that parlay, well +3.5, at +250.  But they also have ML/total, and that is +390.

So the question is, which is "better"?  +3.5 gives me that FG loss which is very possible, hence the difference in odds.  But that difference in odds is enticing, especially with the excitement in LV to finally play, and the Ravens calling up Al Bundy for RB depth...

Thanks!   

[bostonlager 2,463]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Question for you more experienced folks:  looking at tonight's game I like the Raiders as a home dog at +4 and under 50.5 (DK).  So I thought let's try a parlay!  Which must be popular because DK has a tab for exactly that parlay, well +3.5, at +250.  But they also have ML/total, and that is +390.

So the question is, which is "better"?  +3.5 gives me that FG loss which is very possible, hence the difference in odds.  But that difference in odds is enticing, especially with the excitement in LV to finally play, and the Ravens calling up Al Bundy for RB depth...

Thanks!   

I'm confused. If you want to bet the Raiders in a straight bet the line is +4, but if you want to put the Raiders in a parlay the line is +3.5?

I have never seen that before. If you're looking to roll the dice and have some fun tonight - play BOTH options and see what happens. 

If your goal is to win money and make a little profit now that you have the ability to place wagers in Arizona - don't ever bet any parlays. Over a long period, you will hit around 25% of them and none of them pay out at +400. While you will hit a few, you're essentially just bleeding your bankroll away. 

 

 

[jerryskids 5,199]

31 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

I'm confused. If you want to bet the Raiders in a straight bet the line is +4, but if you want to put the Raiders in a parlay the line is +3.5?

I have never seen that before. If you're looking to roll the dice and have some fun tonight - play BOTH options and see what happens. 

If your goal is to win money and make a little profit now that you have the ability to place wagers in Arizona - don't ever bet any parlays. Over a long period, you will hit around 25% of them and none of them pay out at +400. While you will hit a few, you're essentially just bleeding your bankroll away. 

 

 

Yes the odds were 0.5 different.  Like I said this was a pre-fabbed parlay.  I don't see a way to build them myself as a parlay on the DK site.

I understand what you are saying about parlays.  Something about the logic is bugging me a little; I'll post it if I work it through and it still bugs me. 

So let's skip the parlay and ask a similar odds vs. ML question:  Raiders +4 -110, or Raiders ML +175?  Mathematically which is better (abstract out your opinion of the game.)

 

[bostonlager 2,463]

26 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yes the odds were 0.5 different.  Like I said this was a pre-fabbed parlay.  I don't see a way to build them myself as a parlay on the DK site.

I understand what you are saying about parlays.  Something about the logic is bugging me a little; I'll post it if I work it through and it still bugs me. 

So let's skip the parlay and ask a similar odds vs. ML question:  Raiders +4 -110, or Raiders ML +175?  Mathematically which is better (abstract out your opinion of the game.)

 

Love these discussions and I will address your points one at a time. 

1. Click on the +4 as if you are going to bet the Raiders straight up and then also click on the over/under total you want and it should add the +4 and o/u number to the box at the side. From there you should be able to single bet each or it will give you the option to parlay or tease. Odds for a parlay will be in the neighborhood of +260 give or take. 

2. I am very curious to heard your math/logic analysis to the parlay. I am guessing you are questioning my 25% number and I fully admit you are smarter than me, but on this particular issue, I believe I am on the right side and will explain that below. 

3. ML vs point spread. I have probably said it 2 dozen times in this thread, I do not bet sides or total, especially the NFL. The bigger the market, the harder it is to pick winners. The biggest market in the sports wagering world is and will most likely always be the NFL. Sportsbooks know what they are doing when the set the lines. I am convinced that no one can make a long term profit betting NFL sides and totals. There are 2 ways to beat a casino - play poker or bet small markets. 15-18 years ago, during the "boom" I could make money playing poker, but now days the only people playing are those that are just as good as me or better. My money slowly bleeds away in the way of the rake. That leaves me with one viable option to make money - PROPS. It is early, but I have posted all my plays in this thread as well as my record. I will bet everything I own and then some that I can pick props over the course of a season better than anyone in the world can pick sides or totals. Sportsbooks however know this and it is why I am running out of options. I have had my limits cut and basically been told my business is no longer welcome if all I wish to do is place bets on props. I get it. I am not the only one that does this. If they let me and others pick these plays off, they would all go out of business. 

Long winded way of me saying - I wouldn't play the Raiders +4 or the Ravens -4. If I had to make a play on tonight's game, I would straight bet the Raiders ML at +175 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Not to get all political in this thread, but I had sworn off the NFL. If you go back and look at page one of this thread, numerous geeks said sports wagering was dumb and you can't win. I took offense to that and I am watching the games again. I have 2 goals this year. 

1. Prove them all wrong. 

2. Have @Fireballer send me a PM that says DraftKings cut him off from betting props. 

[jerryskids 5,199]

51 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Love these discussions and I will address your points one at a time. 

1. Click on the +4 as if you are going to bet the Raiders straight up and then also click on the over/under total you want and it should add the +4 and o/u number to the box at the side. From there you should be able to single bet each or it will give you the option to parlay or tease. Odds for a parlay will be in the neighborhood of +260 give or take. 

2. I am very curious to heard your math/logic analysis to the parlay. I am guessing you are questioning my 25% number and I fully admit you are smarter than me, but on this particular issue, I believe I am on the right side and will explain that below. 

3. ML vs point spread. I have probably said it 2 dozen times in this thread, I do not bet sides or total, especially the NFL. The bigger the market, the harder it is to pick winners. The biggest market in the sports wagering world is and will most likely always be the NFL. Sportsbooks know what they are doing when the set the lines. I am convinced that no one can make a long term profit betting NFL sides and totals. There are 2 ways to beat a casino - play poker or bet small markets. 15-18 years ago, during the "boom" I could make money playing poker, but now days the only people playing are those that are just as good as me or better. My money slowly bleeds away in the way of the rake. That leaves me with one viable option to make money - PROPS. It is early, but I have posted all my plays in this thread as well as my record. I will bet everything I own and then some that I can pick props over the course of a season better than anyone in the world can pick sides or totals. Sportsbooks however know this and it is why I am running out of options. I have had my limits cut and basically been told my business is no longer welcome if all I wish to do is place bets on props. I get it. I am not the only one that does this. If they let me and others pick these plays off, they would all go out of business. 

Long winded way of me saying - I wouldn't play the Raiders +4 or the Ravens -4. If I had to make a play on tonight's game, I would straight bet the Raiders ML at +175 

Thanks again.  I joined the thread late so skimmed it at best, sorry for the repeats.  Although why not toss in a few sides and/or totals occasionally to throw them off of the scent? 

DK has now given me 8 "Free bet - $25" tokens.  Are you familiar with these?  Their site defines it as follows:

Quote

Free Bet

A Free Bet is a 'token' that is able to be used in place of real money for wagering on the DraftKings Sportsbook platform.

This seems too good to be true.  Is this like the "risk-free bet" where if I lose, I get another bet but I still have to bet?  Or is it really just a free bet?  

I only put $200 in so $200 more of totally free bets seems like aggressive marketing.   

[Fireballer 2,381]

44 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Not to get all political in this thread, but I had sworn off the NFL. If you go back and look at page one of this thread, numerous geeks said sports wagering was dumb and you can't win. I took offense to that and I am watching the games again. I have 2 goals this year. 

1. Prove them all wrong. 

2. Have @Fireballer send me a PM that says DraftKings cut him off from betting props. 

I'm in on the props.  Picking sides can make you go crazy.  Just for example, I did a 7 leg home dog 14 pt teaser.  Even with a full 14 pts to play with, a few games got sketchy.  

[Fireballer 2,381]

16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks again.  I joined the thread late so skimmed it at best, sorry for the repeats.  Although why not toss in a few sides and/or totals occasionally to throw them off of the scent? 

DK has now given me 8 "Free bet - $25" tokens.  Are you familiar with these?  Their site defines it as follows:

This seems too good to be true.  Is this like the "risk-free bet" where if I lose, I get another bet but I still have to bet?  Or is it really just a free bet?  

I only put $200 in so $200 more of totally free bets seems like aggressive marketing.   

Jerry, I've intimately explored many parts of DK over the last week.  I've worked through some of the issues u have.  Also, the $25 bets are real .  I've almost doubled it already. But their only good for a week I think.  I literally put in $5 and have 367 now. Also, as far as parlays, you can build whatever odds u want with alternative spreads and totals, payouts just go down with the risk obviously. If you click on 'SGP'(same game parlay)for tonites game, you can take LV anywhere from +14.5 to -5.5 and o/u from 40.5 to 58.5.  It's let's you take whatever risk u have the stomach for but your only gonna win like $5 on a $10 bet.

Edited September 13, 2021 by Fireballer

[bostonlager 2,463]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks again.  I joined the thread late so skimmed it at best, sorry for the repeats.  Although why not toss in a few sides and/or totals occasionally to throw them off of the scent? 

DK has now given me 8 "Free bet - $25" tokens.  Are you familiar with these?  Their site defines it as follows:

This seems too good to be true.  Is this like the "risk-free bet" where if I lose, I get another bet but I still have to bet?  Or is it really just a free bet?  

I only put $200 in so $200 more of totally free bets seems like aggressive marketing.   

I have tried that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work. From their point of view - bostonlager bet 1 parlay and 100 prop bets this weekend. Fock him. 

mybookie.ag - they require you to be equal amounts of money on sides/totals as you do props. I find that a pointless venture, because what I make in props, I will bleed back to them in sides/totals. No thanks, I actually don't find any of this fun. It's a ton of work to make less than minimum wage when you do the math. I just hate sportsbooks and want to take every dime I can from them. I get a boner when I'm on the phone with customer service and they won't come out and tell me why the max bet I am permitted to place is now at $1.00. "its managements decision and management decisions are final." They also won't let you speak to management. 

The free money or deposit match they give you is legit. They have rollover requirements though ranging from 5x to 20x depending on the book. Most people betting side/totals blow through that way before the rollover and they don't have to worry about it. They now have a fish hooked that is going to start depositing their own money. 

 

 

[Fireballer 2,381]

@jerryskids for example, I just mocked up a bet with LV +7.5 and over 42.5.  It pays almost even money, $10.50 on $10 bet.

In contrast, taking LV at +14.5 and under 60.5 will pay $5 on a $10 bet.

[jerryskids 5,199]

28 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Jerry, I've intimately explored many parts of DK over the last week.  I've worked through some of the issues u have.  Also, the $25 bets are real .  I've almost doubled it already. But their only good for a week I think.  I literally put in $5 and have 367 now. Also, as far as parlays, you can build whatever odds u want with alternative spreads and totals, payouts just go down with the risk obviously. If you click on 'SGP'(same game parlay)for tonites game, you can take LV anywhere from +14.5 to -5.5 and o/u from 40.5 to 58.5.  It's let's you take whatever risk u have the stomach for but your only gonna win like $5 on a $10 bet.

 

25 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

I have tried that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work. From their point of view - bostonlager bet 1 parlay and 100 prop bets this weekend. Fock him. 

mybookie.ag - they require you to be equal amounts of money on sides/totals as you do props. I find that a pointless venture, because what I make in props, I will bleed back to them in sides/totals. No thanks, I actually don't find any of this fun. It's a ton of work to make less than minimum wage when you do the math. I just hate sportsbooks and want to take every dime I can from them. I get a boner when I'm on the phone with customer service and they won't come out and tell me why the max bet I am permitted to place is now at $1.00. "its managements decision and management decisions are final." They also won't let you speak to management. 

The free money or deposit match they give you is legit. They have rollover requirements though ranging from 5x to 20x depending on the book. Most people betting side/totals blow through that way before the rollover and they don't have to worry about it. They now have a fish hooked that is going to start depositing their own money. 

 

 

Thanks guys!

[jerryskids 5,199]

1 hour ago, bostonlager said:

2. I am very curious to heard your math/logic analysis to the parlay. I am guessing you are questioning my 25% number and I fully admit you are smarter than me, but on this particular issue, I believe I am on the right side and will explain that below. 

What bugged me about it was that 25% comes from the odds of two random 50/50 events both happening, so a similar argument could be made for a single event using 50%.  Clearly you feel you know enough to get better than 50% (i.e., make money) so those same improvements would apply to the parlay.  The answer, as you perhaps hinted, was in comparing the odds DK (and others I presume) provide for the events.  So I built the parlay like described above:  as independent events, winning both the side and the total pay out a combined 3.818X.  The parlay is at +264, which pays out at 3.644X.  So betting the individual events is better odds than the parlay.  I presume this is true across the board.  This is good to know.   

[bostonlager 2,463]

19 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What bugged me about it was that 25% comes from the odds of two random 50/50 events both happening, so a similar argument could be made for a single event using 50%.  Clearly you feel you know enough to get better than 50% (i.e., make money) so those same improvements would apply to the parlay.  The answer, as you perhaps hinted, was in comparing the odds DK (and others I presume) provide for the events.  So I built the parlay like described above:  as independent events, winning both the side and the total pay out a combined 3.818X.  The parlay is at +264, which pays out at 3.644X.  So betting the individual events is better odds than the parlay.  I presume this is true across the board.  This is good to know.   

I try not to get too deep into numbers. Here are my beliefs. 

1. Over the long run/course of a season, you will find your ability to pick the winners of NFL game sides/totals is no better than a coin flip. It doesn't matter if it is me, you, or that new york accent tout you hear on the radio wanting you to pay him x amount of dollars for his plays. 50% is going to be your long run result. Because of the juice - 50% is a loser. 

2. If you flip a coin twice and bet the outcome will be heads twice, your odds are at 25%. If you are hitting 1 out of 4 bets, but you're only getting paid +264 on wins, you are bleeding money. 

3. Again, I will go back to - the bigger the market, the harder it is to hit. That is why I told fireballer - My college props will have a better win % at the end of the year than my NFL prop plays. It is a smaller market. The books do not put as much time and research into setting the lines because fewer people bet them. That is what I look to exploit - their mistakes. 

[bostonlager 2,463]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

I'm in on the props.  Picking sides can make you go crazy.  Just for example, I did a 7 leg home dog 14 pt teaser.  Even with a full 14 pts to play with, a few games got sketchy.  

I have been checking some DraftKings for you and have noticed on some of my plays their juice is focked. Even if my yardage/completion/reception numbers are good - don't be betting anything worse than -140. Even if a few hit, over the long run you will get burned. 

[bostonlager 2,463]

Just now, bostonlager said:

I have been checking some DraftKings for you and have noticed on some of my plays their juice is focked. Even if my yardage/completion/reception numbers are good - don't be betting anything worse than -140. Even if a few hit, over the long run you will get burned. 

Edit to ad -  some may be worth it, but I will notate when I post the play. 

[Fireballer 2,381]

6 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

I have been checking some DraftKings for you and have noticed on some of my plays their juice is focked. Even if my yardage/completion/reception numbers are good - don't be betting anything worse than -140. Even if a few hit, over the long run you will get burned. 

Yeah I've been meaning to investigate some other options.  I imagine DK and FD set theirs different to pay for all their fuking advertising.

[bostonlager 2,463]

9 hours ago, bostonlager said:

Baltimore - Las Vegas

Bryan Edwards u 39.5 receiving -115

Bryan Edwards u 3.5 receptions -160

Darren Waller u 6.5 receptions -145

Henry Ruggs u 3.5 receptions -130

Sammy Watkins u 3.5 receptions -145

Derek Carr u 260.5 passing  +100

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Yeah I've been meaning to investigate some other options.  I imagine DK and FD set theirs different to pay for all their fuking advertising.

added my juice to the plays above 

[jerryskids 5,199]

24 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

 

added my juice to the plays above 

Quick glance has DK about 15 worse on all of these.

[bostonlager 2,463]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Quick glance has DK about 15 worse on all of these.

Earlier in the day- they may have been on par. The closer you get to kickoff, one of two things are going to happen. 
 

1. If I am on the right side of the number, juice and or numbers will be worse. 
 

2. if I am on the wrong side of the number, juice and or yards will be better. 
 

 

[bostonlager 2,463]

1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

Earlier in the day- they may have been on par. The closer you get to kickoff, one of two things are going to happen. 
 

1. If I am on the right side of the number, juice and or numbers will be worse. 
 

2. if I am on the wrong side of the number, juice and or yards will be better. 
 

 

I see Carr at DK is o/u 262.5. I’m still confident in my 260.5, but I’m in the minority on that bet. 

[bostonlager 2,463]

I have Carr in the 225-230 range. I could be wrong as Fock and lose that bet. I hope I don’t, though. 

[jerryskids 5,199]

1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

I have Carr in the 225-230 range. I could be wrong as Fock and lose that bet. I hope I don’t, though. 

Seems like he is moving in a different direction than his receivers? 

[BeenHereBefore 1,332]

I have a question for you Boston and how come you mostly bet the under player props ? Do they hit more ? Like tonight I have Andrews over 4.5 catches and think cause of the new rbs LJ will be going to him more. Also Have Carr over running for 6.5 yards.