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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do you base this on?  Unless you're building a PC for under $500 you are most likely not poor.  Most of the people I see doing it are spending $1,000 to $4,000 on their builds.  I'm assuming they are not poor.

TIL that only poor people custom build thousand dollar PCs.. and here I was all this time thinking they played Xbox 

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Just now, iam90sbaby said:

My definition of incredible performance and your definition of incredible performance is completely different.

What "junk" parts are you getting incredible performance on and how? Seriously enlighten me 

Well, Justin programs the Chargers website.  He assumes it's performing incredibly because it never crashes and no Chargers fans ever complain.  He doesn't realize the reason everything runs so smoothly is because no one ever visits the website.

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6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do you base this on?  Unless you're building a PC for under $500 you are most likely not poor.  Most of the people I see doing it are spending $1,000 to $4,000 on their builds.  I'm assuming they are not poor.

people spending $4k on a computer are almost always morons unless theyve really got a huge need for that kinda power.  maybe 1% do.  i would be embarrassed to say i spent that on a computer.  its just a diick-measuring thing.

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6 minutes ago, Strike said:

  Additionally, the problem with prebuilt systems is you're stuck with the components the manufacturer chose for you, instead of being able to customize to exactly your needs. 

Well, you’re never really stuck with anything but I get what you’re saying. Only thing I would add is that a majority of people think they need some off the chart specs when in reality they don’t and the prebuilts will suit their needs just fine. They convince themselves they need something extra because of the part by part research they’ve been doing. 
you can always add/upgrade the ram and if storage is an issue there are inexpensive solutions for that too. 

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Just now, JustinCharge said:

people spending $4k on a computer are almost always morons unless theyve really got a huge need for that kinda power.  maybe 1% do.

I think most do it because they are the opposite of poor and they can do it.  They do it for show.  It's a hobby just like any other.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I think most do it because they are the opposite of poor and they can do it.  They do it for show.  It's a hobby just like any other.

like i said, morons.  you have to be stupid to do it.

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2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

people spending $4k on a computer are almost always morons unless theyve really got a huge need for that kinda power.  maybe 1% do.  i would be embarrassed to say i spent that on a computer.  its just a diick-measuring thing.

Benchmark your PC right now and show us the results 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/Software

I want to see this junk hardware with incredible performance.

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Just now, JustinCharge said:

like i said, morons.  you have to be stupid to do it.

Are you telling me that you don't go overboard with anything you enjoy in life?  Do you do the bare minimum because excess is for morons?

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1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

Well, you’re never really stuck with anything but I get what you’re saying. Only thing I would add is that a majority of people think they need some off the chart specs when in reality they don’t and the prebuilts will suit their needs just fine. They convince themselves they need something extra because of the part by part research they’ve been doing. 
you can always add/upgrade the ram and if storage is an issue there are inexpensive solutions for that too. 

Eh.  The prebuilt systems come with custom designed M/B's that cut corners.  Yes, they have the specs but often don't have as many memory slots or other things that you get with a generic M/B.  They also often don't have the latest tech because they're building it as cheap as they can such that they can put specific specs on the box.  To me that's a deal breaker.  For the most part I'm not some power user.  My last office PC lasted me 10 years. 

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3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Benchmark your PC right now and show us the results 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/Software

I want to see this junk hardware with incredible performance.

i dont have a junk pc currently.  when i had one, i would tweak it to get awesome performance and peple wouldnt believe me.  but my coworkers who knew computers would know i  was right.  like i said, i currently have a rig from microcenter in tustin.  do you even read my posts?

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10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think Justin thinks he's better than people who enjoy building their own.

Apparently 

It’s focking paint by numbers anyway. I enjoy it but I do get a laugh at the elitists who think they are doing anything more than sticking some parts in a box and making sure they are all compatible. 
 

shiit, I forgot to say rig… that’s important too

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Just now, JustinCharge said:

i dont have a junk pc currently.  when i had one, i would tweak it to get awesome performance and peple wouldnt believe me.  but my coworkers who knew computers would know i  was right.

Sweet story dude

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Eh.  The prebuilt systems come with custom designed M/B's that cut corners.  Yes, they have the specs but often don't have as many memory slots or other things that you get with a generic M/B.  They also often don't have the latest tech because they're building it as cheap as they can such that they can put specific specs on the box.  To me that's a deal breaker.  For the most part I'm not some power user.  My last office PC lasted me 10 years. 

Bingo 

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Just now, JustinCharge said:

i dont have a junk pc currently.  when i had one, i would tweak it to get awesome performance and peple wouldnt believe me.  but my coworkers who knew computers would know i  was right.  lik i said, i currently have a rig from microcenter in tustin.  do you even read my posts?

Yeah you have a pre-built.. what is your build, do you even know? How much did you pay? Do the benchmark and show us 

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14 minutes ago, Strike said:

I've been building and working on my own PC's since the 80286 CPU came out.  I enjoy it and much like working on my cars, I trust myself more than someone with no skin in the game working on my stuff.  Additionally, the problem with prebuilt systems is you're stuck with the components the manufacturer chose for you, instead of being able to customize to exactly your needs. 

 

noob, my first computer was an 8088 with a 20mb hard drive, CGA, 512k ram, and only a 5 1/4 floppy. I did not have those fancy 3.5" floppy drives.

I took that thing apart and rebuilt it many times. Back when you had to set jumpers, master/slave, etc.

Building computers today is so easy, just plug everything in and it works.

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Just now, WhiteWonder said:

Apparently 

It’s focking paint by numbers anyway. I enjoy it but I do get a laugh at the elitists who think they are doing anything more than sticking some parts in a box and making sure they are all compatible. 

I think the elitists get off on all the bells and whistles they can have now.  It's all about the design and colors.  The things look more like some kind of art work than a PC.

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2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Yeah you have a pre-built.. what is your build, do you even know? How much did you pay? Do the benchmark and show us 

at this point, i think i like the idea that you might suffer in agony over not knowing, over the thought of getting up out my chair and looking at the build specs and reporting them to you. it does everything i need with flying colors.

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3 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

noob, my first computer was an 8088 with a 20mb hard drive, CGA, 512k ram, and only a 5 1/4 floppy. I did not have those fancy 3.5" floppy drives.

I took that thing apart and rebuilt it many times. Back when you had to set jumpers, master/slave, etc.

Building computers today is so easy, just plug everything in and it works.

My first home build from scratch was as 286.  I was working on them long before that.  I ran a computer lab and did the upgrades from CGA to EGA on our lab systems.  When I built my 286 the memory was SIPP modules.  They literally had little pins hanging off the bottom of them and you had to be careful not to bend them when putting in the memory slots.  DIMM's are so easy.  Kids these days have building a PC easy. 

You'll appreciate this story.  My first real job was at Packard Bell computers.  One of the guys I worked with was an idiot.  He put a new hard drive in his home computer.  This is back when you had to program the sectors, cylinders, etc... in to the BIOS.  Anyways, apparently he had a sticky keyboard and he put that information in the BIOS but by the time he exited and changed the settings his sticky keyboard had changed those values to some random numbers.  After the system rebooted he heard nasty mechanical noises as the hard drive heads slammed against the outside of the hard drive housing and destroyed his new hard drive.  And Hard Drives were a lot more expensive then. 

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2 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

 

Building computers today is so easy, just plug everything in and it works.

Yup! I don’t have the same old school experience as you but I remember family members who did. My only experience is the current plug and play “building”

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think the elitists get off on all the bells and whistles they can have now.  It's all about the design and colors.  The things look more like some kind of art work than a PC.

Don't forget the math coprocessor or the sound blaster. Don't skip and get a sound blaster compatible card, go for the real thing.

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Just now, JustinCharge said:

at this point, i think i like the idea that you might suffer in agony over not knowing, over the thought of getting up out my chair and looking at the build specs and reporting them to you.

Yeah you have no idea, I can tell you what both my PCs have without looking lol, most people can 

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10 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Yeah you have no idea, I can tell you what both my PCs have without looking lol, most people can 

 

I remember most of the systems I have ever built. One of my favorite was a twin processor celeron running Windows 2000. I was always the host of the game when I would go to LAN parties. Even though they were slow chips, the dual proc's allowed me to host and play at the same time.

This was prior to dedicated servers becoming mainstream.

 

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1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

I would classify OP as a budget build

i5 and 3060, I agree.

 

Not that it is a bad thing, most people do not need the computing power they have.

 

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5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I would classify OP as a budget build

If your budget is $1,500 or less I would say go AMD, if you want a top tier high performance PC it's always Intel.

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1 minute ago, MTSkiBum said:

i5 and 3060, I agree.

 

Not that it is a bad thing, most people do not need the computing power they have.

 

100% agree.

Hopefully, he doubles the RAM at a min. the second SSD I suggestion isn't needed but might as well buy one during a black Friday deal.

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some of the big performance tips for junk pcs:

1. build some sort of cool air flow.  these little dinky fans are cute but you can put something together to chill it way down in a huge way at almost zero effort.  youd be shocked at the performance level a junk computer can get when cooled correctly.

2. youd be shocked at how much the monitor makes a difference.  the monitor actually needs to be set at the correct framerate for what your doing.  also some applications can perform oceans worse on wide-screen monitors.  wide screen is great for watching movies.  but maybe your favorite game sucks at handling it.   also you could have an Asus vg258 monitor running at 144hz or a 4k monitor running at 30hz and you actually might need entirely different settings to get sweet performance and most dont understand that.

3.  heres a fun focking tip.  when you play a game, youll have different slider settings for different graphical effects.  well, some of them apply their own anti-aliasing and if you set them wrong, you will have 3 or 4 different anti-alias settings overlaying each other which will slow your computer down, possibly a lot if you dont know what the fock you are doing.

4.  and then theres BIOS settings which i wont go ibto because its way over your head.  dont touch your BIOS.

 

but no, i know nothing about compters.  hell i think after this post, everyone here will start looking at monitor settings and AA.  youre welcome.

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1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

If your budget is $1,500 or less I would say go AMD, if you want a top tier high performance PC it's always Intel.

His PC is under 1k. And like I said I'm an intel fan boy. All my PC and mining rigs run intel. But I recognize AMD is putting out quality products and would have zero heart burn switching.

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Just now, Cdub100 said:

100% agree.

Hopefully, he doubles the RAM at a min. the second SSD I suggestion isn't needed but might as well buy one during a black Friday deal.

He should also be doing DDR5 RAM, DDR4 is going to be outdated pretty quickly and it's nearly the same price.

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3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

If your budget is $1,500 or less I would say go AMD, if you want a top tier high performance PC it's always Intel.

Trying to stay close to $1,000.  It's definitely a budget build because that's all we really need.

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1 minute ago, JustinCharge said:

some of the big performance tips for junk pcs:

1. build some sort of cool air flow.  these little dinky fans are cute but you can put something together to chill it way down in a huge way at almost zero effort.  youd be shocked at the performance level a junk computer can get when cooled correctly.

2. youd be shocked at how much the monitor makes a difference.  the monitor actually needs to be set at the correct framerate for what your doing.  also some applications can perform oceans worse on wide-screen monitors.  wide screen is great for watching movies.  but maybe your favorite game sucks at handling it.   also you could have an Asus vg258 monitor running at 144hz or a 4k monitor running at 30hz and you actually might need entirely different settings to get sweet performance and most dont understand that.

3.  heres a fun focking tip.  when you play a game, youll have different slider settings for different graphical effects.  well, some of them apply their own anti-aliasing and if you set them wrong, you will have 3 or 4 different anti-alias settings overlaying each other which will slow your computer down, possibly a lot if you dont know what the fock you are doing.

4.  and then theres BIOS settings which i wont go ibto because its way over your head.  dont touch your BIOS.

 

but no, i know nothing about compters.  hell i think after this post, everyone here will start looking at monitor settings and AA.  youre welcome.

My two monitors are maxed 60hz. Which was good for a long time do the 240hz really make that big of a difference?

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3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

His PC is under 1k. And like I said I'm an intel fan boy. All my PC and mining rigs run intel. But I recognize AMD is putting out quality products and would have zero heart burn switching.

I have an AMD and Intel, my AMD always gives me problems when I enable XMP, tried everything, it'll work but eventually it gets into an endless boot cycle and I have to disable it. So I'll probably never build another one.

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If you guys were going to build a gaming PC for close to $1,000 what components would you choose.  I'm curious what you guys like to use.

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1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

He should also be doing DDR5 RAM, DDR4 is going to be outdated pretty quickly and it's nearly the same price.

He'd have to change his motherboard and CPU. If he can get those for the same price I agree with you.

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1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

My two monitors are maxed 60hz. Which was good for a long time do the 240hz really make that big of a difference?

It's like having a restrictor plate on a Lambo 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

If you guys were going to build a gaming PC for close to $1,000 what components would you choose.  I'm curious what you guys like to use.

What does your son play? All the latest titles? FPS? 4x?

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3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

My two monitors are maxed 60hz. Which was good for a long time do the 240hz really make that big of a difference?

I have upgraded to 144hz, but do not notice a ton of difference in the types of games I like to play. 

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

If you guys were going to build a gaming PC for close to $1,000 what components would you choose.  I'm curious what you guys like to use.

For me it depends on what's available and price. which changes week to week.

In general

ASUS Motherboard

Crucial Memory

Intel Chip

Nvidea GPU

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Just now, iam90sbaby said:

What does your son play? All the latest titles? FPS? 4x?

He doesn't play any of the recent titles right now but he would like to.  Right now he mostly plays Minecraft and Roblox but I know he wants to get into other games.

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He doesn't play any of the recent titles right now but he would like to.  Right now he mostly plays Minecraft and Roblox but I know he wants to get into other games.

Has he mentioned any games he wants to play? Because if he is a kid that wants to play Elden Ring its a different build than if he wants to play Val

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