Teacher jailed for refusing to use gender-neutral pronouns is arrested after returning to school

[Louie Kelcher 97]

7 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The forced speech laws are passed in NYC for sure and likely elsewhere but last I heard - a couple of years ago - they were tied up in courts, likely a ruling has been issued by now.

Sounds like a bunch of BS

[avoiding injuries 1,655]

 

[jonmx 2,484]

6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The forced speech laws are passed in NYC for sure and likely elsewhere but last I heard - a couple of years ago - they were tied up in courts, likely a ruling has been issued by now.

And what they can't do by criminal law, they will backdoor it under the guise of board certifications and licenses.    Kind of like Canada is trying to take away Jordan Peterson's license to practice.   These leftist Nazis are getting creative at ways of stealing away our rights.  

[Louie Kelcher 97]

1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said:

 

Teachers choose genders now? You focking retards.

[Voltaire 5,530]

22 minutes ago, jonmx said:

And your types would love to do it here.   I have zero doubt you would love to lock up people for misuse of pronouns. Just admit it. 

You got the answer I'd expect.

iThe first step would be to lose their license to teach, practice psychology, work in various fields, and be kicked off of social media.

They lot of them seem perfectly willing to see this teacher's career ruined over their ideological differences.

[Voltaire 5,530]

3 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

Teachers choose genders now? You focking retards.

Yes.

Schools all over the country are having issues with schools using different pronouns at school and not informing parents. The stories spill out.

One particularly egregious story from this week, not school relate but really grinds me, is Maryland is so knee-deep in your sicko ideology that they refused to return a trans-identifying sex-trafficked girl to her grandmother/legal guardian in Virginia and sent her to a Baltimore boy's orphanage where she got raped a second time instead.

[Louie Kelcher 97]

Just now, Voltaire said:

Yes.

Schools all over the country are having issues with schools using different pronouns at school and not informing parents. The stories spill out.

One particularly egregious story from this week, not school relate but really grinds me, is Maryland is so knee-deep in your sicko ideology that they refused to return a trans-identifying sex-trafficked girl to her grandmother/legal guardian in Virginia and sent her to a Baltimore boy's orphanage where she got raped a second time instead.

The stories I have seen have been the kids choosing their pronouns, not the teachers.  And I also read that sad story from MD and they didn't send her home because she was abused.

[Voltaire 5,530]

6 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

The stories I have seen have been the kids choosing their pronouns, not the teachers.  And I also read that sad story from MD and they didn't send her home because she was abused.

That's where the grooming you deny exists comes in.

Like we flipped a switch five years ago and found 1/6 of kids are LGBTQ, rather than 2% or so and nobody is supposed to notice / point out the obvious.

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Voltaire said:

That's where the grooming you deny exists comes in.

Like we flipped a switch five years ago and found 1/6 of kids are LGBTQ, rather than 2% or so and nobody is supposed to notice / point out the obvious.

The 1/6 number is from one poll, that is suspect and has not been replicated. And those who so answered may have meant questioning (for Q) although it was not actually given among the choices.

[Louie Kelcher 97]

12 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

That's where the grooming you deny exists comes in.

Like we flipped a switch five years ago and found 1/6 of kids are LGBTQ, rather than 2% or so and nobody is supposed to notice / point out the obvious.

We all know that people are more open to come out these days, that's why the numbers are up.

You hate gays, we all know this, so everything is viewed through that bias

[Voltaire 5,530]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

The 1/6 number is from one poll, that is suspect and has not been replicated. And those who so answered may have meant questioning (for Q) although it was not actually given among the choices.

Trevor Project: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/new-study-finds-1-in-4-lgbtq-youths-identify-as-non-binary

CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/2019_tables/students_by_sexual_identity.htm

Gallup 2021: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/02/24/gen-z-lgbt/ 

Gallup 2022: https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

 

[Voltaire 5,530]

6 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

We all know that people are more open to come out these days, that's why the numbers are up.

You hate gays, we all know this, so everything is viewed through that bias

Hate does not equal fed up with /sick and tired of / unwilling to endorse.

I get off the bus a few steps away at tolerate, thanks.

[Voltaire 5,530]

3 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

We all know that people are more open to come out these days, that's why the numbers are up.

You hate gays, we all know this, so everything is viewed through that bias

True. And yet these numbers don't extrapolate nearly so well to generations who grew up before groomers took over academia, social media, Hollywood, and corporate boardrooms.

[Louie Kelcher 97]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

True. And yet these numbers don't extrapolate nearly so well to generations who grew up before groomers took over academia, social media, Hollywood, and corporate boardrooms.

Man you're so focked in the head

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Voltaire said:

True. And yet these numbers don't extrapolate nearly so well to generations who grew up before groomers took over academia, social media, Hollywood, and corporate boardrooms.

Maybe because people who grew up in those generations were closeted for some very good reasons.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,050]

31 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

The stories I have seen have been the kids choosing their pronouns, not the teachers.  And I also read that sad story from MD and they didn't send her home because she was abused.

Misgendering is abuse? Holy smokes.  And if she was being abused why was she returned to the family after the 2 rapes? You just make things up.  You’re the psycho. 

[Voltaire 5,530]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

Maybe because people who grew up in those generations were closeted for some very good reasons.

My point is that the closet door has been opened for years and and the number that emerged from previous generations do not nearly correlate with the number of the youth in this generation who are desensitized and recruited into the lifestyle from very early ages.

[MDC 8,110]

51 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

 

I was told Republicans have no problem with gay marriage.  

[Louie Kelcher 97]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Misgendering is abuse? Holy smokes.  And if she was being abused why was she returned to the family after the 2 rapes? You just make things up.  You’re the psycho. 

No, the article said she was abused, and she ran away from home.  So obviously something bad was going on there.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,050]

1 minute ago, Louie Kelcher said:

No, the article said she was abused, and she ran away from home.  So obviously something bad was going on there.

So they returned her to an abusive environment. Sigh. 

[squistion 2,662]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

My point is that the closet door has been opened for years and and the number that emerged from previous generations do not nearly correlate with the number of the youth in this generation who are desensitized and recruited into the lifestyle from very early ages.

Please. There is no evidence they have been "recruited" into this lifestyle. LOL. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,050]

Just now, squistion said:

Please. There is no evidence they have been "recruited" into this lifestyle. LOL. 

So grooming doesn’t exist? 

[Voltaire 5,530]

7 minutes ago, Louie Kelcher said:

Man you're so focked in the head

In a previous thread, after I realized who you were, I did apologize for things I said last week. I think you're a solid poster on a broad range of topics other than this one, which you are incredibly beyond reason in and we will never agree. 

Anyway, for the second time, had I known it was you, I never would have told you you were unwelcome here and I'm sorry. You're totally welcome here and I think it's awful the bannings/ usernames you have to go through to stick around.

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So grooming doesn’t exist? 

Well, yes, there are sick people, pedophiles, who do this, but that is not representative IMO of like the vast majority of those who support trans rights. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,050]

Just now, squistion said:

Well, yes, there are sick people, pedophiles, who do this, but that is not representative IMO of like the vast majority of those who support trans rights. 

I agree it’s not the majority. But you see, abuse is so catastrophic that even the hint of it should be nipped in the bud. There is no reason for an adult that is not a parent or guardian to speak to a child about anything concerning sex and gender. 

[Voltaire 5,530]

8 minutes ago, squistion said:

Please. There is no evidence they have been "recruited" into this lifestyle. LOL. 

Coincidence? Is that your argument?

https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I agree it’s not the majority. But you see, abuse is so catastrophic that even the hint of it should be nipped in the bud. There is no reason for an adult that is not a parent or guardian to speak to a child about anything concerning sex and gender. 

But what if the child brings it up on his or her own, which is often the case? 

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Voltaire said:

Coincidence?

https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps

Fun Fact: States that are more tolerant of LGBT+ rights will have more people who openly identify as LGBT+ because they feel safer to do so..

[Hardcore troubadour 16,050]

Just now, squistion said:

But what if the child brings it up on his or her own, which is often the case? 

Then you stop them and let the parents know. Thank you, I’ll take it from here.  On the other hand, if I find out an adult has been talking to my child about these matters then I’m most likely going to jail for a bit. Oh well. 

[Voltaire 5,530]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

You got the answer I'd expect.

iThe first step would be to lose their license to teach, practice psychology, work in various fields, and be kicked off of social media.

They lot of them seem perfectly willing to see this teacher's career ruined over their ideological differences.

Wanted to bump this... see if we can get anyone on the left oo go to bat and say this teacher or other professionals shouldn't lose their license or jobs over this.

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then you stop them and let the parents know. Thank you, I’ll take it from here.  On the other hand, if I find out an adult has been talking to my child about these matters then I’m most likely going to jail for a bit. Oh well. 

I meant the child telling their parents, on their own, without prompting, that they don't identify with the gender they were born with.

[Voltaire 5,530]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Fun Fact: States that are more tolerant of LGBT+ rights will have more people who openly identify as LGBT+ because they feel safer to do so..

Fun fact: States with more groomers have more transkids.

[RogerDodger 798]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Well, yes, there are sick people, pedophiles, who do this, but that is not representative IMO of like the vast majority of those who support trans rights. 

Your flawed, simple-minded, thinking here is that it has to be a vast majority to matter. 

 

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Voltaire said:

Fun fact: States with more groomers have more transkids.

That is not backed up by any statistics I am aware of.

[Voltaire 5,530]

Just now, squistion said:

I meant the child telling their parents, on their own, without prompting, that they don't identify with the gender they were born with.

That number would be in the vicinity of absolute zero if people like you and gutterboy weren't around to confuse kids into thinking this is a fun option worth exploring.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,050]

Just now, squistion said:

I meant the child telling their parents, on their own, without prompting, that they don't identify with the gender they were born with.

Then we are headed for counseling. And that will be a private family matter. But I guarantee there will be no drugs or surgeries or public displays happening.   

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, RogerDodger said:

Your flawed, simple-minded, thinking here is that it has to be a vast majority to matter. 

No, I would guess that 99% of those who support trans rights are not "groomers"

[Voltaire 5,530]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

That is not backed up by any statistics I am aware of.

Circular reasoning....

[squistion 2,662]

Just now, Voltaire said:

That number would be in the vicinity of absolute zero if people like you and gutterboy weren't around to confuse kids into thinking this is a fun option worth exploring.

Who has said it is a "fun option" worth exploring? Not me, or anyone else here that I've seen.

[RogerDodger 798]

Just now, squistion said:

No, I would guess that 99% of those who support trans rights are not "groomers"

Then why even say vast majority dummy.  

Go upstairs and play 20 questions with your mom, shes probably down closer to your level. Or at least used to it and might play along.