Patented Phil 1,469 Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: Glavine merely has 89 more wins. To me, Schilling is close, but out. There’s a reason that win/loss record has been relegated to the back seat of the stat bus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,222 Posted March 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Patented Phil said: There’s a reason that win/loss record has been relegated to the back seat of the stat bus. yeah, I don't agree with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 394 Posted March 5, 2023 Linceum - NO Mussina - NO Schilling - NO Pettite - NO Linceum has the personal hardware the other two don't have. Schilling has the post-season glory the other two don't have. Mussina has more high level career consistency than the other two. Petitte has a mixture of all four. All of them Hall of Very Good......but not elite/ELITE. ETA: Schilling is probably the one who deserves to be in over the other three (despite never winning personal hardware).....but HOF have always had a political side about them. TO was unquestionably a first ballot Hall of Famer in the NFL. He didn't get in because he was perceived as a tool. I'm sure Schilling takes the same heat; from both the writers and the veterans. He'd eventually get it from the veterans if he campaigned. But since he doesn't seem interested, he probably won't get in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,458 Posted March 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, zsasz said: Linceum - NO Mussina - NO Schilling - NO Pettite - NO Linceum has the personal hardware the other two don't have. Schilling has the post-season glory the other two don't have. Mussina has more high level career consistency than the other two. Petitte has a mixture of all four. All of them Hall of Very Good......but not elite/ELITE. ETA: Schilling is probably the one who deserves to be in over the other three (despite never winning personal hardware).....but HOF have always had a political side about them. TO was unquestionably a first ballot Hall of Famer in the NFL. He didn't get in because he was perceived as a tool. I'm sure Schilling takes the same heat; from both the writers and the veterans. He'd eventually get it from the veterans if he campaigned. But since he doesn't seem interested, he probably won't get in. Schilling probably would’ve gotten in if he didn’t ask to have his name removed. He got 71% of votes in 2021. Then asked to have his name removed…it wasn’t, but I’m sure voters didn’t vote for him because of that. Pettite tested positive for PED’s. That’s a no from me dawg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 394 Posted March 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Schilling probably would’ve gotten in if he didn’t ask to have his name removed. He got 71% of votes in 2021. Then asked to have his name removed…it wasn’t, but I’m sure voters didn’t vote for him because of that. Pettite tested positive for PED’s. That’s a no from me dawg Forgot about that one. Yeah, he shouldn' be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,484 Posted March 5, 2023 Mussina is already in the HOF so doesn't really matter if anyone doesn't think he belongs. He's in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites