thegeneral 1,435 Posted April 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yes it sends them to libtard cities problem solved, I can avoid them. You want them here, you take them, you want illegals, you want "asylum seekers" you take them, you want refugees, you take them I want none, my town is amazing At some point these people end up somewhere is my point. I get the argument that making say open drug use without any form of treatment or rehab available isn’t a good idea. Simply shipping them to say San Diego isn’t really doing anything either big picture but I’m glad you don’t have to deal with some hobo in your Starbucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,999 Posted April 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I actually agree with many of the comments made in this thread about the homeless. If there is any issue in which I often take a conservative position it might be that one. Yes many homeless are on drugs. Yes the California laws are too loose. Beyond that I have no specific ideas. As I wrote in the other thread, I oppose solutions that are too authoritarian. There has to be a reasonable middle ground. Regarding @Strike‘s comment that illegal immigrants drive up the price of housing, that can’t be denied. Illegal or legal, the more immigrants we have make the demand for housing increase. But ultimately the number of immigrants we take in, legally or illegally, is always dependent on the number of jobs available for them. So I don’t mind if demand for housing increases for reasons of immigration, because that means that overall the economy is booming. If you ever see immigration decrease, especially illegal immigration, you will know that we are suffering. The bolded is a flat out lie. If we had control of our borders we could limit the number of immigrants based upon numbers agreed upon between the government and industry. As it is as many as can find their way to the border get in. It'd be nice to have a discussion on topics that is based on the merits, facts, and data of the issue and not have to call out your constant lying. This statement is so patently false I can't believe you actually typed it. Of course, you've been making similar statements as long as I've been forced to read your idiocy so I guess I'm not too surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,003 Posted April 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Strike said: The bolded is a flat out lie. If we had control of our borders we could limit the number of immigrants based upon numbers agreed upon between the government and industry. As it is as many as can find their way to the border get in. It'd be nice to have a discussion on topics that is based on the merits, facts, and data of the issue and not have to call out your constant lying. This statement is so patently false I can't believe you actually typed it. Of course, you've been making similar statements as long as I've been forced to read your idiocy so I guess I'm not too surprised. We’ve had this debate before. The level of control at the border that would be necessary to stop illegal immigration is unacceptable because of the trade it would also interdict. In addition, more than half of all illegal immigrants come here legally anyhow and then simply overstay the amount of time allowed. So what I wrote is not a lie, it’s reality. Your belief that illegals immigration can be controlled is a delusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,180 Posted April 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Homeless people? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,608 Posted April 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, thegeneral said: At some point these people end up somewhere is my point. I get the argument that making say open drug use without any form of treatment or rehab available isn’t a good idea. Simply shipping them to say San Diego isn’t really doing anything either big picture but I’m glad you don’t have to deal with some hobo in your Starbucks. do I seem like a type of guy who would goto starbucks lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,999 Posted April 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: We’ve had this debate before. The level of control at the border that would be necessary to stop illegal immigration is unacceptable because of the trade it would also interdict. In addition, more than half of all illegal immigrants come here legally anyhow and then simply overstay the amount of time allowed. So what I wrote is not a lie, it’s reality. Your belief that illegals immigration can be controlled is a delusion. Quit moving the focking goalposts. Whether we can control the border or not is a separate discussion and has NOTHING to do with what I was responding to. The blatant LIE I was responding to was the following: Quote But ultimately the number of immigrants we take in, legally or illegally, is always dependent on the number of jobs available for them. I'd ask if you rode the short bus to school but that would be an insult to retards everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,435 Posted April 21, 2023 Just now, Alias Detective said: Yes Tough question. I definitely see a few people who have been in my hood for awhile. Not sure where they live or how they do it but they definitely appear homeless. They have recently unwound some stuff they allowed during pandemic in regards to what I would consider homeless and this has changed what you see in terms of people literally camping in parks or living in a car. This has just moved these people to other areas I’m sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,435 Posted April 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: do I seem like a type of guy who would goto starbucks lol I lol’d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,003 Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Strike said: Quit moving the focking goalposts. Whether we can control the border or not is a separate discussion and has NOTHING to do with what I was responding to. The blatant LIE I was responding to was the following: I'd ask if you rode the short bus to school but that would be an insult to retards everywhere. You know you’re an intelligent guy. You make some very thoughtful arguments at times. But you’re so damn hostile, to me in particular. No idea why. I don’t bear you any ill will. I never reported you once, despite what you might think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,999 Posted April 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You know you’re an intelligent guy. You make some very thoughtful arguments at times. But you’re so damn hostile, to me in particular. No idea why. I don’t bear you any ill will. I never reported you once, despite what you might think. Again non-responsive to the point we were supposedly discussing. You have yet to respond to the LIE I called you out on. You just keep moving the goalposts. If I seem hostile it's only because you're incapable of supporting your idiotic statements when called out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted April 22, 2023 Tim is a pathological liar. Everyone sees it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,738 Posted April 22, 2023 10 hours ago, weepaws said: 40 bucks lol. Boiling the frog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,608 Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t want my money going for an investigation of Hunter Biden. I wasn’t fond of paying for the war in Iraq either. not fond of paying for the war in iraq, yet huge fan of paying for the war in Ukraine not fond of investigations of Hunter, yet think its awesome to spend 200 mil going after Trump over a misdemeanor at best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
