Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So now you’re a Dothraki slave girl? No. I’m someone that has watched the last two elections. Both times very close and abortion was a subject both times. So I can deduce that the country is pretty evenly divided on the issue. Plus the house has flipped a couple of times. So I’ll go ahead and say that most people support an abortion policy somewhere in between the extremes. President Trump now sits in between the extremes. Where are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,938 Posted April 9, 2024 We could just wait til .Don changes his stance on this topic. It only really matters who he’s talking with or what version he decides to go with that day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No. I’m someone that has watched the last two elections. Both times very close and abortion was a subject both times. So I can deduce that the country is pretty evenly divided on the issue. Plus the house has flipped a couple of times. So I’ll go ahead and say that most people support an abortion policy somewhere in between the extremes. President Trump now sits in between the extremes. Where are you? First of all we don't know where Trump "sits" because he changes his position all the time. Yesterday he came out in support of keeping the issue with the states and letting them decide what they want, from anything to a complete ban to execution after birth. He's essentially trying to occupy both extremes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 Just now, Ron_Artest said: First of all we don't know where Trump "sits" because he changes his position all the time. Yesterday he came out in support of keeping the issue with the states and letting them decide what they want, from anything to a complete ban to execution after birth. He's essentially trying to occupy both extremes. Yes. Now do Biden, Mr. consistency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,938 Posted April 9, 2024 17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yes. Now do Biden, Mr. consistency. I like Biden’s side of this argument better. Don will get caught lying to some group of ultra religious people at some point in the run up to the election where he talks about helping get them a federal ban. It’s just what he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: I like Biden’s side of this argument better. Don will get caught lying to some group of ultra religious people at some point in the run up to the election where he talks about helping get them a federal ban. It’s just what he does. Sounds plausible. But I think the right is finally ridding themselves as much as possible from the yoke of the evangelicals. They’ve been replaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted April 9, 2024 22 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: Clownzo's uncanny channeling of Hitler. https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-trump-turns-trials-soapbox-100532064.html Let's conflate President Trump, who is being politically targeted and treated unfairly by a corrupted left-wing judiciary and prosecutors, with Hitler who apparently went through a similar ordeal. A better Nazi Germany analogy would be the Nazi plundering of Jewish property in Nazi courts after locking up the Jews over political hatred. The giant hole in your analogy is the power abusing Nazis are the vindictive Democrats and their rigged New York judicial system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 Trump the dictator. Couldn’t even get his biggest campaign promise done. Democracy is at stake! This time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,938 Posted April 9, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump the dictator. Couldn’t even get his biggest campaign promise done. Democracy is at stake! This time! This is true! Dude couldn’t get a fence built, got the government shutdown after he had the money, then got nothing Pelosi and Schumer gave him a spanking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 9, 2024 41 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Let's conflate President Trump, who is being politically targeted and treated unfairly by a corrupted left-wing judiciary and prosecutors, with Hitler who apparently went through a similar ordeal. A better Nazi Germany analogy would be the Nazi plundering of Jewish property in Nazi courts after locking up the Jews over political hatred. The giant hole in your analogy is the power abusing Nazis are the vindictive Democrats and their rigged New York judicial system. Clownzo illegally paid hush money to a porn star. Clownzo tried to get election officials to go find votes. Clownzo lost a lawsuit from a woman whom he raped. Clownzo whipped a mob into a frenzy, resulting in a violent attack on our nation's Capitol in order to kill the vice president and speaker of the House and derail our democratic process. These are just a few items on his long criminal laundry list. Judges he appointed have ruled against him, so just for one second consider the possibility that he's a focking sociopathic crook instead of some hero and victim. The fact that MAGAturds blindly devote themselves to this butth0le underscores my point about the Hitler comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 Biden keeps claiming that he’s the first person in his family to go to college when speaking about student loans (he never had one). He also said his grandfather was an all American football player at Santa Clara college. And his father went to Johns Hopkins. I know Ron/ Gutterboy was concerned about Trump saying whatever he wants to the crowd he’s speaking to at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 Stormy Daniels is a troubled woman with addiction issues. We shouldn’t put too much stock in what she has to say. Like with Ashley Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump the dictator. Couldn’t even get his biggest campaign promise done. Democracy is at stake! This time! Glad you can admit he failed at his biggest campaign promise. The difference between then and now is that in his first term he adults who kept in check, including his own VP that refused to usurp democracy and give the election to Trump. All of those people are gone, and they all say that Trump is a threat to democracy, and they've all been replaced with sycophants who will do Trump's bidding. Trumps own words are this is a revenge tour. THAT's why this is different. And you've fallen right in line like a good lil troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Glad you can admit he failed at his biggest campaign promise. The difference between then and now is that in his first term he adults who kept in check, including his own VP that refused to usurp democracy and give the election to Trump. All of those people are gone, and they all say that Trump is a threat to democracy, and they've all been replaced with sycophants who will do Trump's bidding. Trumps own words are this is a revenge tour. THAT's why this is different. And you've fallen right in line like a good lil troll. So it was Pence and his circle that stopped the wall from being built? And Trump has names his cabinet replacements? I had not heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Biden keeps claiming that he’s the first person in his family to go to college when speaking about student loans (he never had one). He also said his grandfather was an all American football player at Santa Clara college. And his father went to Johns Hopkins. I know Ron/ Gutterboy was concerned about Trump saying whatever he wants to the crowd he’s speaking to at the time. Biden said his father went to Johns Hopkins. Trump said Putin should invade any NATO country that doesn't pay their fair share. IT'S TOTALLY THE SAME!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So it was Pence and his circle that stopped the wall from being built? You focking idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Biden said his father went to Johns Hopkins. Trump said Putin should invade any NATO country that doesn't pay their fair share. IT'S TOTALLY THE SAME!!! Whataboutism! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You focking idiot. You said that’s who kept him in check. They were against the wall being built ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You said that’s who kept him in check. They were against the wall being built ? Try reading that post again dummy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Try reading that post again dummy. I did. You’re worried about his inner circle. I’m pointing out the actual check on his power. Ever hear of checks and balances? It exists and it’s not going anywhere. Walking you through simple things is exhausting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I did. You’re worried about his inner circle. I’m pointing out the actual check on his power. Ever hear of checks and balances? It exists and it’s not going anywhere. Walking you through simple things is exhausting. Checks and balances are between the different branches of govt. You thought I said something about Pence stopping Trump from building a wall. Enough with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Checks and balances are between the different branches of govt. You thought I said something about Pence stopping Trump from building a wall. Enough with you. So this threat to democracy you speak of. How exactly does that play out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: So this threat to democracy you speak of. How exactly does that play out? Pence refuses to certify the election, or worse he accepts the fake electors and gives the election to Trump. Get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Pence refuses to certify the election, or worse he accepts the fake electors and gives the election to Trump. Get it? I’m asking about the impending threat if Trump wins. We survived that other one when Trump left office like the constitution calls for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,938 Posted April 9, 2024 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m asking about the impending threat if Trump wins. We survived that other one when Trump left office like the constitution calls for. Better luck on the next one I guess! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 9, 2024 28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m asking about the impending threat if Trump wins. We survived that other one when Trump left office like the constitution calls for. Well Trump is trying to make the case that any president is above the law, so we can start there. But you're gonna downplay it all anyway because you are a shill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 36 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well Trump is trying to make the case that any president is above the law, so we can start there. But you're gonna downplay it all anyway because you are a shill. Well, presidential immunity does exist. The argument is if he’s entitled to it for what he’s accused. So it’s not like he invented immunity for the president. Otherwise Obama and Bush would be charged with war crimes. Remember when the left wanted to charge Bush? HT farms remembers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted April 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: Clownzo illegally paid hush money to a porn star. Clownzo tried to get election officials to go find votes. Clownzo lost a lawsuit from a woman whom he raped. Clownzo whipped a mob into a frenzy, resulting in a violent attack on our nation's Capitol in order to kill the vice president and speaker of the House and derail our democratic process. These are just a few items on his long criminal laundry list. Judges he appointed have ruled against him, so just for one second consider the possibility that he's a focking sociopathic crook instead of some hero and victim. The fact that MAGAturds blindly devote themselves to this butth0le underscores my point about the Hitler comparison. The way the 'justice' system works in New York is that activist prosecutors and judges can and will find Trump guilty / liable / responsible for anything, with the E. Jean Carroll accusations being particularly ridiculous. Asking Georgia election officials to go find votes would be horrible if that's what happened, but it did not. That's just yet another in the long list of easily provable corporate media lies about him. We see this time after time after time. Everything the Democrats find, think they find, can misrepresent about, or in E Jean Carroll's case fabricate lies whole cloth from nothing, they run with, hoping something will stick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 9, 2024 Joe Biden 1987 at a congressional hearing: “ I did not grow up in an area or a community where there were large Hispanic or even small Hispanic populations. It was just non-existent” Joe Biden 2022: “I was sort of raised in the Puerto Rican community at home” Did Ron/ Gutterboy say something about Trump pandering to whoever he was talking to and you couldn’t trust him because of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,448 Posted April 9, 2024 And in the last hour the abortion issue just got way worse for Trump as Arizona’s SC makes all abortion illegal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,741 Posted April 9, 2024 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: And in the last hour the abortion issue just got way worse for Trump as Arizona’s SC makes all abortion illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 10, 2024 7 hours ago, Voltaire said: The way the 'justice' system works in New York is that activist prosecutors and judges can and will find Trump guilty / liable / responsible for anything, with the E. Jean Carroll accusations being particularly ridiculous. Asking Georgia election officials to go find votes would be horrible if that's what happened, but it did not. That's just yet another in the long list of easily provable corporate media lies about him. We see this time after time after time. Everything the Democrats find, think they find, can misrepresent about, or in E Jean Carroll's case fabricate lies whole cloth from nothing, they run with, hoping something will stick. So you're saying that the audio that everyone has heard a million times isn't actually Trump asking Georgia election officials to "find" votes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Extremist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted April 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: So you're saying that the audio that everyone has heard a million times isn't actually Trump asking Georgia election officials to "find" votes? So? Votes get found all the time. You didn’t know that? If he said create them you would have something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted April 10, 2024 5 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: So you're saying that the audio that everyone has heard a million times isn't actually Trump asking Georgia election officials to "find" votes? Yes. You've been lied to. I knew you'd do this because lying is what the MSM does and they sucked you in. It's easily provable to be taken out of context. But don't believe me. I know you don't trust me. See for yourself. Here's the full conversation. The money quote is about 3/5 of the way in. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html Just skim down to it. Down. Down. Beofre an after. The entire conversation all the way before and after is alerting him to allegations of illegally cast ballots. Look here for illegal ballots, look here at these irregularities. On and on. Fraudulent votes. Dead people voting. Before and after the money quote, it's all about looking for illegally cast ballots. All of it. Every little bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,448 Posted April 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Yes. You've been lied to. I knew you'd do this because lying is what the MSM does and they sucked you in. It's easily provable to be taken out of context. But don't believe me. I know you don't trust me. See for yourself. Here's the full conversation. The money quote is about 3/5 of the way in. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html Just skim down to it. Down. Down. Beofre an after. The entire conversation all the way before and after is alerting him to allegations of illegally cast ballots. Look here for illegal ballots, look here at these irregularities. On and on. Fraudulent votes. Dead people voting. Before and after the money quote, it's all about looking for illegally cast ballots. All of it. Every little bit. No it isn’t. There weren’t any illegal votes. Every claim he made has since proven to be garbage. Trump Was looking to cheat, and he asked the Secretary of State to cheat, and he will go to prison for it. A jury will not agree with your interpretation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,083 Posted April 10, 2024 5 hours ago, Voltaire said: Yes. You've been lied to. I knew you'd do this because lying is what the MSM does and they sucked you in. It's easily provable to be taken out of context. But don't believe me. I know you don't trust me. See for yourself. Here's the full conversation. The money quote is about 3/5 of the way in. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html Just skim down to it. Down. Down. Beofre an after. The entire conversation all the way before and after is alerting him to allegations of illegally cast ballots. Look here for illegal ballots, look here at these irregularities. On and on. Fraudulent votes. Dead people voting. Before and after the money quote, it's all about looking for illegally cast ballots. All of it. Every little bit. I actually read that whole thing and it's really sad. You have this desperate broken guy, Trump, spewing lie and after lie and getting told over and over that what he's saying is false. He finally breaks down and just begs "find 11k votes". We all know the context dude. The context is you have a guy that has been crying about election fraud the moment he started running for public office. He said in 2016 that the election would be rigged if he lost, but he actually won. He said in the primary of that year after he lost Iowa that Cruz stole it, that it was fraud. In 2012 he wasn't even running but he started crying fraud for Romney. Fock when he was just a reality TV star and the apprentice lost to amazing race for a Grammy he said it was rigged for focks sake. So the context is that Trump is a guy that refuses to accept defeat and will lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, whatever to get his way. And that's exactly what that phone call was about. All of his claims during that phone call have been rebuked. There were two recounts, investigations, and time and time again it shows trump lost Georgia. https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-check-donald-trump-georgia-elections-atlanta-c23d10e5299e14daee6109885f7dafa9 The facts are all on my side, not yours. Now tell me again, who is being lied to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,741 Posted April 10, 2024 Hey GUTTERBOY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites