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Nearly 350 K-12 Educators/Teachers Arrested On Child Sex Crimes In 2022

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5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

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So you think those teachers should not have their license stripped from them or their pensions revoked or be arrested?

 

Hot take from you. 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you think those teachers should not have their license stripped from them or their pensions revoked or be arrested?

 

Hot take from you. 

I was laughing at your take on the situation.  We've discussed this.  A small handful of incidents happen to a group of people and the Left is there to champion their cause.  Yet, over 30x that number of incidents to group of people and the Left is "it's just a few bad apples".

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I was laughing at your take on the situation.  We've discussed this.  A small handful of incidents happen to a group of people and the Left is there to champion their cause.  Yet, over 30x that number of incidents to group of people and the Left is "it's just a few bad apples".

And I've said numerous times I disagree with that take from the left...so now what's funny?

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26 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

And I've said numerous times I disagree with that take from the left...so now what's funny?

It's what people are upset about you keep responding to people here about "why are you upset".   But, you keep asking.  That's why it's funny.  It's like you're not paying attention at all.

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On 5/12/2023 at 12:48 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

What’s your defense of all the republicans who have been convicted of sexual assault of underaged people or child pron? 

 

Former California ‘teacher of the year’ busted for sex with 16-year-old student: police

....A California high school educator once named “teacher of the year” was arrested for having sex with a 16-year-old student, according to police. Tracy Vanderhulst, a 38-year-old math teacher at Yucaipa High School, was charged with statutory rape on Thursday following an investigation into allegations that she had sexual intercourse with a minor, the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department said....The math teacher had previously been named the school’s teacher of the year in 2017, according to local reports.

....Vanderhulst, the Yucaipa High School principal wrote at the time, “epitomizes the educator so many desire to be- she is the kind and innovative teacher from whom we hope our children will grow; the educator who strives to engage all of her students from her intervention classes to her honors classes.”....Vanderhulst was first hired at Yucaipa in 2013.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/20/california-high-schools-former-teacher-of-the-year-busted-for-having-sex-with-16-year-old-student/

 

 

tu quoque

You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism. Pronounced too-kwo-kweh. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as a.... red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

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17 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's what people are upset about you keep responding to people here about "why are you upset".   But, you keep asking.  That's why it's funny.  It's like you're not paying attention at all.

Keep making your strawman arguments I guess. Keep on keeping on. 

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3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Keep making your strawman arguments I guess. Keep on keeping on. 

Keep on keeping your head in the sand and doing what your masters tell you.  That's a good boy.

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18 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I was laughing at your take on the situation.  We've discussed this.  A small handful of incidents happen to a group of people and the Left is there to champion their cause.  Yet, over 30x that number of incidents to group of people and the Left is "it's just a few bad apples".

Are you talking about drag queens vs religious leaders?

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Just now, GutterBoy said:

Are you talking about drag queens vs religious leaders?

The group that you fall under.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The group that you fall under.

You're too dumb to realize what you said and the irony within.

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2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You're too dumb to realize what you said and the irony within.

You're too dumb to realize I was saying "You", instead of the obvious... "to find out who I'm talking about, just click on the replies to see how the comment transpired".

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Keep on keeping your head in the sand and doing what your masters tell you.  That's a good boy.

So "my masters" are leading the charge to castigate people who abuse their role as a teacher? "My masters" are the ones saying "Not all teachers are bad because some are just like all police officers are not bad because some are."

Who are "my masters" offering those positions? 

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On 5/23/2023 at 4:53 AM, Sean Mooney said:

Keep making your strawman arguments I guess. Keep on keeping on. 

 

 

 

Parents outraged after Oregon teacher asks students to write ‘sexual fantasy’ short story

....An Oregon high school has pulled a suggestive class assignment asking students to write a short story about a "sexual fantasy" after backlash from parents.

Health class students.... to complete a 10-point assignment titled "Fantasy Story": "For those students...you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy ...The assignment also asked students to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavored syrup, to use in the story."

"If an adult male asked my daughter to share her sexual fantasies with him, I would be livid and be going to the police. No teacher has any business asking this of a child," one parent said. One of the parents concerned about the assignment, Katherine Rogers, said students in the class felt "mortified, awkward and creeped out." "The district reviews these curriculums before they get approved, right? Did they actually read this? If this was reviewed, how did it slip through the cracks? I could see this easily becoming a national scandal," she told Oregon Live.

....Further scrutiny of the "Health 2 Human Sexuality" class found that students were also given an assignment called "With Whom Would You Do it." The project involved a virtual spinning wheel labeled with sexual categories. Students were allegedly instructed to respond when the wheel stopped..... parent Justin McCall said his daughter was "very, very, very uncomfortable" in class throughout the assignment....."Especially when [the teacher] put up the generated spinning wheel, and it had anal penetration and oral sex up there....." 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/parents-outraged-oregon-teacher-asks-students-write-sexual-fantasy-short-story

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On 5/27/2023 at 3:42 PM, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

 

Parents outraged after Oregon teacher asks students to write ‘sexual fantasy’ short story

....An Oregon high school has pulled a suggestive class assignment asking students to write a short story about a "sexual fantasy" after backlash from parents.

Health class students.... to complete a 10-point assignment titled "Fantasy Story": "For those students...you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy ...The assignment also asked students to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavored syrup, to use in the story."

"If an adult male asked my daughter to share her sexual fantasies with him, I would be livid and be going to the police. No teacher has any business asking this of a child," one parent said. One of the parents concerned about the assignment, Katherine Rogers, said students in the class felt "mortified, awkward and creeped out." "The district reviews these curriculums before they get approved, right? Did they actually read this? If this was reviewed, how did it slip through the cracks? I could see this easily becoming a national scandal," she told Oregon Live.

....Further scrutiny of the "Health 2 Human Sexuality" class found that students were also given an assignment called "With Whom Would You Do it." The project involved a virtual spinning wheel labeled with sexual categories. Students were allegedly instructed to respond when the wheel stopped..... parent Justin McCall said his daughter was "very, very, very uncomfortable" in class throughout the assignment....."Especially when [the teacher] put up the generated spinning wheel, and it had anal penetration and oral sex up there....." 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/parents-outraged-oregon-teacher-asks-students-write-sexual-fantasy-short-story

You never addressed any of my comments/questions a page or so ago.

Do you plan on it or do you plan on just posting stories with weird usage of underline, bold, and font size?

On this particular story- it's a terrible assignment. I don't know if it was in an approved curriculum or if the teacher went rogue with it. If it's the former it's bad. If it's the latter it's worse. 

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On 5/27/2023 at 3:42 PM, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

 

Parents outraged after Oregon teacher asks students to write ‘sexual fantasy’ short story

....An Oregon high school has pulled a suggestive class assignment asking students to write a short story about a "sexual fantasy" after backlash from parents.

Health class students.... to complete a 10-point assignment titled "Fantasy Story": "For those students...you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy ...The assignment also asked students to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavored syrup, to use in the story."

"If an adult male asked my daughter to share her sexual fantasies with him, I would be livid and be going to the police. No teacher has any business asking this of a child," one parent said. One of the parents concerned about the assignment, Katherine Rogers, said students in the class felt "mortified, awkward and creeped out." "The district reviews these curriculums before they get approved, right? Did they actually read this? If this was reviewed, how did it slip through the cracks? I could see this easily becoming a national scandal," she told Oregon Live.

....Further scrutiny of the "Health 2 Human Sexuality" class found that students were also given an assignment called "With Whom Would You Do it." The project involved a virtual spinning wheel labeled with sexual categories. Students were allegedly instructed to respond when the wheel stopped..... parent Justin McCall said his daughter was "very, very, very uncomfortable" in class throughout the assignment....."Especially when [the teacher] put up the generated spinning wheel, and it had anal penetration and oral sex up there....." 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/parents-outraged-oregon-teacher-asks-students-write-sexual-fantasy-short-story

Sick. And people wonder why parents have just said don’t speak about these matters at all. Once again leftist democrats overstep.  

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On 5/23/2023 at 4:53 AM, Sean Mooney said:

Keep making your strawman arguments I guess. Keep on keeping on. 

 

 

"You don’t have to go inside the booty hole, you can actually just push on the seam, and that stimulates the prostate gland, as well. And they apparently really like that....But, yeah, so that’s why for male and male, anal sex is still very pleasurable, because of the fact that it hits the prostate, and there’s a lot of nerve endings in your booty, as well....So, the girls, the G-spot, prostate, they’re the equivalent to each other, but apparently that’s why if you ever see, like, Target has them now. Sex toys.If you go to Target, seriously, if you go to Target and go where the tampons and pads are, they have — they just look like a little box, but if you open it up, there’s like a Velcro front to the box, you open it up, and then, BAM, sex toy. CVS has them, too, a lot of them.So, that’s why when you look at the toys, a lot of them look like this [making a hooked finger gesture]."

The Placentia-Yorba Linda Unified School District (PYLUSD) is aware of a video circulating on social media that involves an El Dorado High School (EDHS) employee. The individual involved has been placed on administrative leave pending a thorough investigation; however, due to employee confidentiality, additional details regarding the status of the individual will not be disclosed.

 

 

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China can’t  take over soon enough.  Amd they aren’t going to care that you call them racists or bigots. 

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12 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

"You don’t have to go inside the booty hole, you can actually just push on the seam, and that stimulates the prostate gland, as well. And they apparently really like that....But, yeah, so that’s why for male and male, anal sex is still very pleasurable, because of the fact that it hits the prostate, and there’s a lot of nerve endings in your booty, as well....So, the girls, the G-spot, prostate, they’re the equivalent to each other, but apparently that’s why if you ever see, like, Target has them now. Sex toys.If you go to Target, seriously, if you go to Target and go where the tampons and pads are, they have — they just look like a little box, but if you open it up, there’s like a Velcro front to the box, you open it up, and then, BAM, sex toy. CVS has them, too, a lot of them.So, that’s why when you look at the toys, a lot of them look like this [making a hooked finger gesture]."

The Placentia-Yorba Linda Unified School District (PYLUSD) is aware of a video circulating on social media that involves an El Dorado High School (EDHS) employee. The individual involved has been placed on administrative leave pending a thorough investigation; however, due to employee confidentiality, additional details regarding the status of the individual will not be disclosed.

 

 

.......Not sure why you feel the need to tag me in this. I said I'm against this stuff. But I'm sure it makes you feel better Utilt99 so keep on with your strawman BS.........

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This is why teachers or any other adult for that matter shouldn’t be talking to students about sex.  They have blown through the trust and leeway that they were given. And I don’t care if it’s only a few. The fact that it’s possible is enough to put a stop to it. Parents and doctors can talk about these issues to kids. Full stop. It’s not like we get to interview our kids teachers before turning them over to them.  

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Have any of you seen the series on Jared Fogel yet?  I had no idea how evil he really was.

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On 5/23/2023 at 4:53 AM, Sean Mooney said:

Keep making your strawman arguments I guess. Keep on keeping on. 

 

 

Superintendent arrested after planning to engage in sex acts with 15-year-old: Police

....A Texas school superintendent is behind bars after being accused of trying to solicit sex from a 15-year-old girl in Houston. Investigators said that Michael Stevens, 47, is being charged with online solicitation of a minor. Stevens is the superintendent of a school district in North Texas near Dallas. According to officials, Stevens began talking to who he thought was a teenage girl but were trained officers who were conducting a months-long sting operation. The officers were posing as 13, 14, and 15 year olds in the Houston area. The school administrator is one of the seven men caught during the sting...

....We are trying to determine if any other children have been solicited by these individuals," shared Constable Alan Rosen of Harris County Precinct 1. "This should scare parents, this should put things into perspective about how dangerous things can be when you're not paying attention..."

The following is the full statement from the Board of Trustees: The Board of Trustees met today to take immediate action to suspend Superintendent Michael Stevens from his role as Superintendent of Schools. The Board took this action in response to the arrest on Thursday, June 1st of Mr. Stevens. We are working diligently to resolve this situation in accordance with our legal counsel.

https://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/texas-superintendent-arrested-after-planning-to-engage-in-sex-acts-with-15-year-old-houston-online-solicitation-of-a-minor-michael-stevens-itasca-school-district

 

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Sean Mooney. Clearly part of the problem is that you are making this all about you. And it's not all about you. You keep holding onto that bizarre trope that this discussion is an indictment of all teachers period. 

No one is smearing all teachers in America. But there is a clear widespread and growing problem and to deny that clear public policy, particularly in hard line Blue strongholds, has a lot to do with the more brazen grooming, molestation, rape and assault is not in line what is actually happening in the current public school landscape. 

You can't have some of these teachers constantly talk about sex, their gory personal sex lives and their "identity" and not set up a pathway that ultimately creates a target rich environment for pure predators out there. 

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3 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Superintendent arrested after planning to engage in sex acts with 15-year-old: Police

....A Texas school superintendent is behind bars after being accused of trying to solicit sex from a 15-year-old girl in Houston. Investigators said that Michael Stevens, 47, is being charged with online solicitation of a minor. Stevens is the superintendent of a school district in North Texas near Dallas. According to officials, Stevens began talking to who he thought was a teenage girl but were trained officers who were conducting a months-long sting operation. The officers were posing as 13, 14, and 15 year olds in the Houston area. The school administrator is one of the seven men caught during the sting...

....We are trying to determine if any other children have been solicited by these individuals," shared Constable Alan Rosen of Harris County Precinct 1. "This should scare parents, this should put things into perspective about how dangerous things can be when you're not paying attention..."

The following is the full statement from the Board of Trustees: The Board of Trustees met today to take immediate action to suspend Superintendent Michael Stevens from his role as Superintendent of Schools. The Board took this action in response to the arrest on Thursday, June 1st of Mr. Stevens. We are working diligently to resolve this situation in accordance with our legal counsel.

https://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/texas-superintendent-arrested-after-planning-to-engage-in-sex-acts-with-15-year-old-houston-online-solicitation-of-a-minor-michael-stevens-itasca-school-district

 

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Sean Mooney. Clearly part of the problem is that you are making this all about you. And it's not all about you. You keep holding onto that bizarre trope that this discussion is an indictment of all teachers period. 

No one is smearing all teachers in America. But there is a clear widespread and growing problem and to deny that clear public policy, particularly in hard line Blue strongholds, has a lot to do with the more brazen grooming, molestation, rape and assault is not in line what is actually happening in the current public school landscape. 

You can't have some of these teachers constantly talk about sex, their gory personal sex lives and their "identity" and not set up a pathway that ultimately creates a target rich environment for pure predators out there. 

You don't read the threads enough here then.

Additionally, I said this in my first post in the thread: "No one is okay with teacher or people in schools doing this stuff. They should absolutely be fired. It is also silly though to castigate the entire profession because of .009% of the people in it. But yes- those that do this stuff should be run, have their pensions suspended, and spend years rotting in a jail cell. "

That apparently was not enough for you leading you to CONSTANTLY quote me to post another story about some sick individual.. My response will still be what I put above. If that isn't good enough for you- that's a you problem. 

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You don't read the threads enough here then.

Additionally, I said this in my first post in the thread: "No one is okay with teacher or people in schools doing this stuff. They should absolutely be fired. It is also silly though to castigate the entire profession because of .009% of the people in it. But yes- those that do this stuff should be run, have their pensions suspended, and spend years rotting in a jail cell. "

That apparently was not enough for you leading you to CONSTANTLY quote me to post another story about some sick individual.. My response will still be what I put above. If that isn't good enough for you- that's a you problem. 

Still doesn’t get it.  You want them to lose their pensions. Some of us don’t want it to happen in the first place.  Talking about sex with children opens the door for pedos. Don’t talk to kids that aren’t yours about sex  in the first place. Not what we send our kids to school for. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Still doesn’t get it.  You want them to lose their pensions. Some of us don’t want it to happen in the first place.  Talking about sex with children opens the door for pedos. Don’t talk to kids that aren’t yours about sex  in the first place. Not what we send our kids to school for. 

I want them to rot in jail and have their pensions stripped because once you start defining clear consequences for this type of behavior it will help to mitigate it. You go immediately to an extreme of using the word "pedos." And the idea that people are just willfully talking about sex out of the blue is stupid. 

You are just an idiot who is skyscreaming from behind your keyboard so you can feel tough. 

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I want them to rot in jail and have their pensions stripped because once you start defining clear consequences for this type of behavior it will help to mitigate it. You go immediately to an extreme of using the word "pedos." And the idea that people are just willfully talking about sex out of the blue is stupid. 

You are just an idiot who is skyscreaming from behind your keyboard so you can feel tough. 

Ok. But teachers shouldn’t be talking to kids about sex.  Refer them to their parents and let the parents know what’s up. Not a big ask in most circumstances.  Thanks. 

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Still doesn’t get it.  You want them to lose their pensions. Some of us don’t want it to happen in the first place.  Talking about sex with children opens the door for pedos. Don’t talk to kids that aren’t yours about sex  in the first place. Not what we send our kids to school for. 

No one wants it to happen, come on.

Does teaching sexual education encourage pedo teachers?  I wouldn't think so, but you can always have your kids skip the classes.

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok. But teachers shouldn’t be talking to kids about sex.  Refer them to their parents and let the parents know what’s up. Not a big ask in most circumstances.  Thanks. 

And again- that is how most normal people AND most teachers do go about it. Even though Utilt99 Horseshoe continually posts these stories we are still talking about considerably less than 1% of the profession. So conceivably somewhere between 1-99% are handling it the way you should. 

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7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No one wants it to happen, come on.

Does teaching sexual education encourage pedo teachers?  I wouldn't think so, but you can always have your kids skip the classes.

That’s fine in the upper grades in a class.  Not one on one and not about sexuality.  Sex as it relates to procreation and health is fine. And when I say health I’m talking about STD’s and such. 

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6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

And again- that is how most normal people AND most teachers do go about it. Even though Utilt99 Horseshoe continually posts these stories we are still talking about considerably less than 1% of the profession. So conceivably somewhere between 1-99% are handling it the way you should. 

I bet they are.  But some won’t. Barriers need to be put in place. Just like your boss can’t ask you about your sex life.  It’s inappropriate and in some cases dangerous. 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s fine in the upper grades in a class.  Not one on one and not about sexuality.  Sex as it relates to procreation and health is fine. And when I say health I’m talking about STD’s and such. 

You think elementary teachers talk to kids about how to have sex one on one?

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

You think elementary teachers talk to kids about how to have sex one on one?

No sex talk, period. Why do you struggle with this? 

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No sex talk, period. Why do you struggle with this? 

I'm fine with it.  But per usual you get on your high horse about sh1t that's irrelevant.

Hey, you know teachers shouldnt talk to kids about bourbon.  If the kids want to learn about bourbon, have them talk to their parents.  No bourbon talk already.  You have a problem with this?  You support kids drinking?

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7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I'm fine with it.  But per usual you get on your high horse about sh1t that's irrelevant.

Hey, you know teachers shouldnt talk to kids about bourbon.  If the kids want to learn about bourbon, have them talk to their parents.  No bourbon talk already.  You have a problem with this?  You support kids drinking?

Terrible analogy. 

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41 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s fine in the upper grades in a class.  Not one on one and not about sexuality.  Sex as it relates to procreation and health is fine. And when I say health I’m talking about STD’s and such. 

Teachers are talking to elementary school kids about sex?  You got a non-CT, non-Youtube link to this?  Cause I think were it to happen in more than a few isolated incidents, parents of every political persuasion would be up in arms.  Unless you think democratic parents are cool having teachers talk sex with their 3rd graders or something.

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2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Teachers are talking to elementary school kids about sex?  You got a non-CT, non-Youtube link to this?  Cause I think were it to happen in more than a few isolated incidents, parents of every political persuasion would be up in arms.  Unless you think democratic parents are cool having teachers talk sex with their 3rd graders or something.

It might have happened once, so by tardcore logic, that means it's an epidemic and we all promote it.

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4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Teachers are talking to elementary school kids about sex?  You got a non-CT, non-Youtube link to this?  Cause I think were it to happen in more than a few isolated incidents, parents of every political persuasion would be up in arms.  Unless you think democratic parents are cool having teachers talk sex with their 3rd graders or something.

California's new sex ed guidelines encourage teachers to talk to students about gender identity, masturbation

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/california-s-new-sex-ed-guidelines-encourage-teachers-talk-students-n1003596

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2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It might have happened once, so by tardcore logic, that means it's an epidemic and we all promote it.

California's new sex ed guidelines encourage teachers to talk to students about gender identity, masturbation

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/california-s-new-sex-ed-guidelines-encourage-teachers-talk-students-n1003596

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5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Sex ed guidelines, dummy.

Do cultist really think their ridiculous emphasis on trannies and drag queen story time and virtually non-existent inappropriate sexual discussion with kids in schools is winning them voters?

They've already got the sky fairy vote and the uneducated rube vote locked up.  Who else do they think they're appealing to with this almost never happens cultural war nonsense?

I know tons of people with kids in public schools, these made up issues virtually never impact those of us in the real world, yet they'll post up the same couple of trannies and drag queen pics and vids around kids like it's rampant or something.

Cultist are legit delusional, sick weirdos. 

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