Trump INDICTED

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

9 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

What difference does that make?

Time and time again J6 defendants testify in their own defense that the message they got from President Trump that day, and the days leading up to J6, was that their country was being stolen and what are you going to do about it?

Well, by God, they were patriots and they were going to storm the capital and stop the steal. That’s what they were going to do about it!
 

They did it for Trump and it’s just what Trump wanted.

Trump should be held accountable for the carnage his lies have caused. 

 

 

 

“I don’t know why there aren’t more uprisings across the country. Maybe there will be” There were . “Kavanaugh, you have unleashed the whirlwind and you will pay the price”. A deranged democrat attempted to kill Kavanaugh.  Imagine judging those statements against “fight like hell”? .  Yeah, fight like hell was the order to attack.  GTFO. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

“I don’t know why there aren’t more uprisings across the country. Maybe there will be” There were . “Kavanaugh, you have unleashed the whirlwind and you will pay the price”. A deranged democrat attempted to kill Kavanaugh.  Imagine judging those statements against “fight like hell”? .  Yeah, fight like hell was the order to attack.  GTFO. 

Wait I thought public figures having their lives threatened and attacked by crazies is funny

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Wait I thought public figures having their lives threatened and attacked by crazies is funny

Gin and Tonics and blow up Unicorns is the funny part. That and the possible ass play. Dumbass. And no one said “public figure” Paul Pelosi should be attacked before he was, unlike what the democrats did. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

“I don’t know why there aren’t more uprisings across the country. Maybe there will be” There were . “Kavanaugh, you have unleashed the whirlwind and you will pay the price”. A deranged democrat attempted to kill Kavanaugh.  Imagine judging those statements against “fight like hell”? .  Yeah, fight like hell was the order to attack.  GTFO. 

You’re losing me here… not sure what your point is.

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

5 hours ago, Fnord said:

@Blue Horseshoe re: Brandenburg

Can you try to explain in a short, concise, non-partisan way without YouTube links? TIA

Lololololol

[thegeneral 3,214]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gin and Tonics and blow up Unicorns is the funny part. That and the possible ass play. Dumbass. And no one said “public figure” Paul Pelosi should be attacked before he was, unlike what the democrats did. 

I see if a lunatic had broken into Kavanaugh’s house and beaten his wife  and also had weird shet in his backpack and a bunch of people, including Biden, made up weird conspiracy theories then it becomes a good joke. Good to know!

[Dozer FBG 325]

Paul Pelosi? Kavanaha? 
 

You really gotta keep your head on a swivel around here.

[Fnord 2,272]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lololololol

Notice he hasn't answered, despite being a "poster of substance."

He's probably scouring FBG for your old posts as I write this.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

3 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

You’re losing me here… not sure what your point is.

Those were much closer to being orders to insight violence than “fight like hell”. I’ll be sure and tell the cheerleaders at the local football game to stop saying “fight fight fight”, less the players start throwing punches. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

When the beastie boys told us to fight for our right to party I don’t think they were saying to actually beat up your parents. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

If you would take just a second and think about the families of the J6 defendants…

Not the paraders and poop smearers… (Not that their families weren’t adversely affected…)

But the big timers that assaulted cops and threatened Congress. Those going to prison for three, four, five years…

Or the families of the J6ers who pled or were found guilty of seditious conspiracy… going away for decades.

These are Americans. These American families have been gutted because of Trumps lies.

 

 

 

[Dozer FBG 325]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When the beastie boys told us to fight for our right to party I don’t think they were saying to actually beat up your parents. 

My right to party shall not be infringed.

I’d storm the capital for that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

Just now, Dozer FBG said:

My right to party shall not be infringed.

I’d storm the capital for that.

Ok, let’s try this. If after Jan 6, Trump said there should be more uprisings, and there were, would you want him charged for that too? 

[Dozer FBG 325]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok, let’s try this. If after Jan 6, Trump said there should be more uprisings, and there were, would you want him charged for that too? 

Can you elaborate on the time, place, and manner of these new uprisings?

[jerryskids 6,799]

53 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

What difference does that make?

Time and time again J6 defendants testify in their own defense that the message they got from President Trump that day, and the days leading up to J6, was that their country was being stolen and what are you going to do about it?

Well, by God, they were patriots and they were going to storm the capital and stop the steal. That’s what they were going to do about it!
 

They did it for Trump and it’s just what Trump wanted.

Trump should be held accountable for the carnage his lies have caused. 

 

 

 

Would not "peacefully" go to his desire for... a peaceful protest?

You seem to be making some weird logical leap that because people interpreted portions of Trump's speech to be a call for their behavior, that was by definition Trump's intention, even though he specifically said otherwise.   

[Dozer FBG 325]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Would not "peacefully" go to his desire for... a peaceful protest?

You seem to be making some weird logical leap that because people interpreted portions of Trump's speech to be a call for their behavior, that was by definition Trump's intention, even though he specifically said otherwise.   

He said otherwise huh? Well, no need for court I guess.

Call the lawyers!

 

[jerryskids 6,799]

2 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

He said otherwise huh? Well, no need for court I guess.

Call the lawyers!

 

Well, you asked why it matters, and I answered.

Also it is funny that you use the existence of a court case against Trump as ipso facto evidence that there should be such a case. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

43 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Can you elaborate on the time, place, and manner of these new uprisings?

Cops attacked, stores looted, statues torn down.  Summer of 2020. Everywhere. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, you asked why it matters, and I answered.

Also it is funny that you use the existence of a court case against Trump as ipso facto evidence that there should be such a case. 

Hey man, I’m just reading the news…

[jerryskids 6,799]

2 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Hey man, I’m just reading the news…

What "news" source did you get this collection of facts from?

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What difference does that make?

Time and time again J6 defendants testify in their own defense that the message they got from President Trump that day, and the days leading up to J6, was that their country was being stolen and what are you going to do about it?

Well, by God, they were patriots and they were going to storm the capital and stop the steal. That’s what they were going to do about it!
 

They did it for Trump and it’s just what Trump wanted.

Trump should be held accountable for the carnage his lies have caused.

 

[Dozer FBG 325]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Cops attacked, stores looted, statues torn down.  Summer of 2020. Everywhere. 

I’m having a hard time keeping up with your Time Machine… First you went all post J6 hypothetical and now we’re in 2020.

I’ll save you some time:

2020 was bad. What I saw of it was terrible. But I’m in the middle of Missouri and I don’t have cable. Ferguson was a much bigger deal to me.

But none of the BLM stuff combined compares to J6 as far as “bad for the country.”

J6 was a direct threat to our democracy.

I never hear anything about BLM outside of this forum.

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

19 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

I’m having a hard time keeping up with your Time Machine… First you went all post J6 hypothetical and now we’re in 2020.

I’ll save you some time:

2020 was bad. What I saw of it was terrible. But I’m in the middle of Missouri and I don’t have cable. Ferguson was a much bigger deal to me.

But none of the BLM stuff combined compares to J6 as far as “bad for the country.”

J6 was a direct threat to our democracy.

I never hear anything about BLM outside of this forum.

 

 

Oh. This “I don’t know about it” routine again. Ok then. Never mind. 

[Dozer FBG 325]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What "news" source did you get this collection of facts from?

 

Same place as you. My phone.

If a case sounds interesting I’ll usually start here.

Statements of Fact, Indictments, criminal affidavits, that kind of court documentation.

I find it all fascinating. Just give me what you’d say in court under threat of prosecution with no punditry.

[Dozer FBG 325]

17 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Same place as you. My phone.

If a case sounds interesting I’ll usually start here.

Statements of Fact, Indictments, criminal affidavits, that kind of court documentation.

I find it all fascinating. Just give me what you’d say in court under threat of prosecution with no punditry.

Here’s a good example that I would encourage anyone with a genuine interest in J6 to read:

The Oath Keepers Indictment

It’s 48 pages.

In about Item 40 they get into the Quick Reaction Force, which was a guy with a truckload of guns who was in a Comfort Inn “ten minutes away.”

 

[jerryskids 6,799]

19 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Same place as you. My phone.

If a case sounds interesting I’ll usually start here.

Statements of Fact, Indictments, criminal affidavits, that kind of court documentation.

I find it all fascinating. Just give me what you’d say in court under threat of prosecution with no punditry.

I looked in your first Statement of Facts and there was no mention of Trump.  So I did the search one level up that includes all of the docs; nothing:

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This surprised me; I figured he'd be mentioned, although a person's interpretation of Trump's intention would not have been fact.

So, did you just make this up?  My first impression of you was better than this, but such impressions can be wrong.

[jerryskids 6,799]

4 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Here’s a good example that I would encourage anyone with a genuine interest in J6 to read:

The Oath Keepers Indictment

It’s 48 pages.

In about Item 40 they get into the Quick Reaction Force, which was a guy with a truckload of guns who was in a Comfort Inn “ten minutes away.”

 

Well, this one at least mentions Trump (5 times), but none of them have anything to do with Trump's alleged intention.

My point, if you haven't figured it out, is that you have opinions, and you seem confused between them and facts.  

[Dozer FBG 325]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I looked in your first Statement of Facts and there was no mention of Trump.  So I did the search one level up that includes all of the docs; nothing:

This surprised me; I figured he'd be mentioned, although a person's interpretation of Trump's intention would not have been fact.

So, did you just make this up?  My first impression of you was better than this, but such impressions can be wrong.

No Jer, I didn’t just make it up.

The statement of facts lays out the crime.

When the defendant presents their defense, that when they make the point of how they were influenced by President Trump in the commission of their crimes.

Like the proud boy trials for example. 

Many times, I mean almost every case blames their behavior in the belief that the election was stolen.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

Just now, Dozer FBG said:

No Jer, I didn’t just make it up.

The statement of facts lays out the crime.

When the defendant presents their defense, that when they make the point of how they were influenced by President Trump in the commission of their crimes.

Like the proud boy trials for example. 

Many times, I mean almost every case blames their behavior in the belief that the election was stolen.

Yeah you did.  Just like you've been making it up and exaggerating like the hyperventilating zealot you are.  I mean, it's what you zealots do.

It's the reason you got the other board shut down.  Take your insane mania and GTFO.  You're not wanted here.

[Dozer FBG 325]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, this one at least mentions Trump (5 times), but none of them have anything to do with Trump's alleged intention.

My point, if you haven't figured it out, is that you have opinions, and you seem confused between them and facts.  

I don’t know, man. I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on what’s going on here. Good talk though.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

Just now, Dozer FBG said:

I don’t know, man. I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on what’s going on here. Good talk though.

No you don't.  All you have are lies, smears and talking points you get at the daily TDS glory hole.  

You're a zealot and nothing less.  You'll believe anything you're told by your masters. You're a true POS.

[jerryskids 6,799]

31 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

No Jer, I didn’t just make it up.

The statement of facts lays out the crime.

When the defendant presents their defense, that when they make the point of how they were influenced by President Trump in the commission of their crimes.

Like the proud boy trials for example. 

Many times, I mean almost every case blames their behavior in the belief that the election was stolen.

You did make it up.  Trump is literally not mentioned a single time in any document in this link.

I guess the others from FBG are right about you.  Oh well, I gave you a fair shot.  Carry on with your DozierWorld facts. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You did make it up.  Trump is literally not mentioned a single time in any document in this link.

I guess the others from FBG are right about you.  Oh well, I gave you a fair shot.  Carry on with your DozierWorld facts. 

He's everything we billed him as.  A true zealot to TDS hysteria.  No lie is too bold for him.   Lying is what he does.

[Dozer FBG 325]

Just now, jerryskids said:

You did make it up.  Trump is literally not mentioned a single time in any document in this link.

I guess the others from FBG are right about you.  Oh well, I gave you a fair shot.  Carry on with your DozierWorld facts. 

Let’s keep it together, man.

You asked for a source and I gave you one I use for J6 cases.

 I must be missing your point.

 Could you please tell me what you would like a source for?

[Dozer FBG 325]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

They did it for Trump and it’s just what Trump wanted.

This? Is this what you need me to prove?

[jerryskids 6,799]

12 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

Let’s keep it together, man.

You asked for a source and I gave you one I use for J6 cases.

 I must be missing your point.

 Could you please tell me what you would like a source for?

I quoted your posts in question. Go back and read

[Dozer FBG 325]

174 Jan. 6th criminal defendants say Trump incited them
 

“One hundred seventy-four defendants from 37 states who were charged for their participation in the January 6th BALONEY SANDWICH have said they were answering Donald Trump’s calls when they traveled to Washington and joined the violent attack on the Capitol.”

[Hardcore troubadour 15,434]

36 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

174 Jan. 6th criminal defendants say Trump incited them
 

“One hundred seventy-four defendants from 37 states who were charged for their participation in the January 6th BALONEY SANDWICH have said they were answering Donald Trump’s calls when they traveled to Washington and joined the violent attack on the Capitol.”

He told them to come to a rally? He has told people that a lot. He didn’t tell them to attack anyone. Show me that and I won’t vote for him again. 

[jerryskids 6,799]

33 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said:

174 Jan. 6th criminal defendants say Trump incited them
 

“One hundred seventy-four defendants from 37 states who were charged for their participation in the January 6th BALONEY SANDWICH have said they were answering Donald Trump’s calls when they traveled to Washington and joined the violent attack on the Capitol.”

Bless your heart, you really don't understand what a fact is.  

[Dozer FBG 325]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Bless your heart, you really don't understand what a fact is.  

Where did I get the facts wrong? Or a single fact I got wrong?

[Dozer FBG 325]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He told them to come to a rally? He has told people that a lot. He didn’t tell them to attack anyone. Show me that and I won’t vote for him again. 

So, you need a quote that says:

I, Donald Trump request that you, my supporter…. Storm the capital.

that’s what it would take?

Not the back story that we all know about John Eastman and The Green Bay Sweep?