RLLD 4,143 Posted July 28, 2023 Toronto Sun Daily Mail Fox News Quote The NBC report spotlighted "Black outdoorsy groups" seeking to "reclaim the joys of nature" without experiencing harassment or discrimination. One leader of the group told the outlet, "People would go to campgrounds and there would be Trump flags flying everywhere." Now, to be fair if you go to a campground you WILL find Trump flags in abundance. Most people who camp are working-class, with a small set of upper-middle class. We have taken our camper, which we sold...more on that in a moment.... to many campgrounds up and down the eat coast, and you will find Trump flags just everywhere. Now, for an AA to be intimidated in any way by this is a measure of the effectiveness of liberal indoctrination and/or media propoganda. Because if you are AA and fear anything Trump.....then you fear historically low unemployment, safer neighborhoods and solid funding for HBCU's. So.....the fear is not rational, and extravagantly misplaced. But Democrats are rather good a fabricating fake fears. Back to the camper. Prior to COVID camping was great. Had a Gulfstream we bought in 2018, upgrading from several years of using a pop-up. Then COVID hit. And things like campers and boats were suddenly in high demand, which makes sense. This led to two important outcomes. First, manufacturers went into overdrive building the things, so anything before 2020 has a higher value because the makers sacraficed quality to increase production. Second, camp grounds were suddenly lucrative investments and large companies started gobbling up the family-run places....prices soared. So, given the rising costs to camp, and my unit was suddenly more valuable, we sold out.... later, if the market returns to normal we might get back into it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 Having any political flag up tells me there's a really good chance you're a douche bag. I just don't get the appeal of doing it. That being said, there's no reason to be afraid. Go camping and enjoy it like everyone else. Be respectful. Most people are not going to give a shite about your race if you're all enjoying yourselves in a similar way. I think it would actually gain a lot of respect from others by seeing them enjoy similar hobbies. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 Trump kick's ass. Keep the flags flying. I love camping. And I love camp fires. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: And I love white power. I think this is a good quote to save. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I love white power too. There you go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: There you go. Now you're just setting yourself up for defamation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Now you're just setting yourself up for defamation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: It wasn't cool. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted July 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Having any political flag up tells me there's a really good chance you're a douche bag. I just don't get the appeal of doing it. That being said, there's no reason to be afraid. Go camping and enjoy it like everyone else. Be respectful. Most people are not going to give a shite about your race if you're all enjoying yourselves in a similar way. I think it would actually gain a lot of respect from others by seeing them enjoy similar hobbies. Political flags, yard signs etc. instant . I’m currently camping in one of the whitest parts of America and have seen several AAs here having a good time and also haven’t seen a single Trump flag. This was written in June btw. Why the sudden urge to push it out now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Dizkneelande said: Political flags, yard signs etc. instant . I’m currently camping in one of the whitest parts of America and have seen several AAs here having a good time and also haven’t seen a single Trump flag. This was written in June btw. Why the sudden urge to push it out now? We use to camp about 3 times a year when I was a kid. I loved it. I don't remember ever seeing any political flags up. It didn't seem to become really popular until Trump ran for President. I know a lot of people do it just to piss others off but I still find it odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It wasn't cool. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 You like white weakness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 28, 2023 Funny that @RLLD left out the actual article, and just went with the 3 articles that criticize the actual article. The article is here, in case anyone wants to read it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/meet-black-outdoorsy-groups-reclaiming-joys-nature-rcna86934 It's a good article, talking about how black people have historically not engaged with nature, how national parks were segregated, and how groups of black hikers and have had the cops called on them. These groups want to help blacks enjoy nature more. I think that's great. There is one line at the bottom about Trump flags, otherwise it' a positive article. Also, anyone that flies a Trump flag is a douche bag. Or a Biden flag. If you feel the need to fly a flag to show your political party, you're probably an ass hole. And I also enjoy camping. We're going tent camping in a few weeks. I will not be flying any political flags. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: We use to camp about 3 times a year when I was a kid. I loved it. I don't remember ever seeing any political flags up. It didn't seem to become really popular until Trump ran for President. I know a lot of people do it just to piss others off but I still find it odd. Its definitely new, before Trump I cannot recall seeing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Funny that @RLLD left out the actual article, and just went with the 3 articles that criticize the actual article. The article is here, in case anyone wants to read it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/meet-black-outdoorsy-groups-reclaiming-joys-nature-rcna86934 It's a good article, talking about how black people have historically not engaged with nature, how national parks were segregated, and how groups of black hikers and have had the cops called on them. These groups want to help blacks enjoy nature more. I think that's great. There is one line at the bottom about Trump flags, otherwise it' a positive article. Also, anyone that flies a Trump flag is a douche bag. Or a Biden flag. If you feel the need to fly a flag to show your political party, you're probably an ass hole. And I also enjoy camping. We're going tent camping in a few weeks. I will not be flying any political flags. What are whining about now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: Why? To misquote me and make me sound racist? Do you seriously need an explanation? I see you edited your post for some reason. If you're ashamed of having it in your comment, what makes you think it's ok to make it look like I said it? Like I said, not cool. Some lines should not be crossed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: You like white weakness? You're digging a hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: To misquote me and make me sound racist? Do you seriously need an explanation? I see you edited your post for some reason. If you're ashamed of having it in your comment, what makes you think it's ok to make it look like I said it? Like I said, not cool. Some lines should not be crossed. You misquoted me. And how is that in the least racist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: To misquote me and make me sound racist? Do you seriously need an explanation? I see you edited your post for some reason. If you're ashamed of having it in your comment, what makes you think it's ok to make it look like I said it? Like I said, not cool. Some lines should not be crossed. I thought you were joking....since that is precisely what you did.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Its definitely new, before Trump I cannot recall seeing it I'm pretty sure it started in spite of people who don't like Trump. It's one of those things that I found funny at first but ran it's course quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Funny that @RLLD left out the actual article, and just went with the 3 articles that criticize the actual article. The article is here, in case anyone wants to read it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/meet-black-outdoorsy-groups-reclaiming-joys-nature-rcna86934 It's a good article, talking about how black people have historically not engaged with nature, how national parks were segregated, and how groups of black hikers and have had the cops called on them. These groups want to help blacks enjoy nature more. I think that's great. There is one line at the bottom about Trump flags, otherwise it' a positive article. Also, anyone that flies a Trump flag is a douche bag. Or a Biden flag. If you feel the need to fly a flag to show your political party, you're probably an ass hole. And I also enjoy camping. We're going tent camping in a few weeks. I will not be flying any political flags. When I did anew search, these top three came up so I ran with them. That aside, all your points are spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: You misquoted me. And how is that in the least racist? Now you're lying about it? You've reached a new low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I thought you were joking....since that is precisely what you did.... I did what? I did not misquote him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Now you're lying about it? I'm not lying. And you hate Trump. That's racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I did what? I did not misquote him. He went back and edited it to say "I love camp fires" What a douche. But I saw it, I back you up. Just leave the clown alone. Ignore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: I'm not lying. And you hatr Trump. That's racist. Wow. I have lost the last amount of respect I had for you today. I didn't mind the ribbing back and forth but today you made it personal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: He went back and edited it to say "I love camp fires" What a douche. But I saw it, I back you up. Just leave the clown alone. Ignore. No. This really pisses me off. This is beyond just having fun and giving each other crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: No. This really pisses me off. This is beyond just having fun and giving each other crap. He's not worth the effort. He's the lowest form of human. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Wow. I have lost the last amount of respect I had for you today. I didn't mind the ribbing back and forth but today you made it personal. I'm not even offended by the white power comment from you because it's not racist. And even if you called me a racist, why would I care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: He went back and edited it to say "I love camp fires" What a douche. But I saw it, I back you up. Just leave the clown alone. Ignore. And I'll back you up. We can all lie together. You guys put the 'q' in lgbtqa+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Having any political flag up tells me there's a really good chance you're a douche bag. I just don't get the appeal of doing it. That being said, there's no reason to be afraid. Go camping and enjoy it like everyone else. Be respectful. Most people are not going to give a shite about your race if you're all enjoying yourselves in a similar way. I think it would actually gain a lot of respect from others by seeing them enjoy similar hobbies. This type of name calling is completely fine with old man hawkeye.. But don't you dare bring skin color into it. Because that's "personal". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: This type of name calling is completely fine with old man hawkeye.. But don't you dare bring skin color into it. Because that's "personal". Keep digging that hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Keep digging that hole. Now you are off the rails. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Now you are off the rails. You focked up. Own it or just shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted July 28, 2023 I’m cool with the Trump flags. I don’t like the FJB flags, especially when it actually says Fock. And I would tell someone they are a moron to their face if they flew one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,507 Posted July 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: No. This really pisses me off. This is beyond just having fun and giving each other crap. This isn’t FBGays. Quote manipulation has been a thing on this bored for as long as I’ve been a member. Lighten up, it’s not “personal”. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, RLLD said: Toronto Sun Daily Mail Fox News Now, to be fair if you go to a campground you WILL find Trump flags in abundance. Most people who camp are working-class, with a small set of upper-middle class. We have taken our camper, which we sold...more on that in a moment.... to many campgrounds up and down the eat coast, and you will find Trump flags just everywhere. Now, for an AA to be intimidated in any way by this is a measure of the effectiveness of liberal indoctrination and/or media propoganda. Because if you are AA and fear anything Trump.....then you fear historically low unemployment, safer neighborhoods and solid funding for HBCU's. So.....the fear is not rational, and extravagantly misplaced. But Democrats are rather good a fabricating fake fears. Back to the camper. Prior to COVID camping was great. Had a Gulfstream we bought in 2018, upgrading from several years of using a pop-up. Then COVID hit. And things like campers and boats were suddenly in high demand, which makes sense. This led to two important outcomes. First, manufacturers went into overdrive building the things, so anything before 2020 has a higher value because the makers sacraficed quality to increase production. Second, camp grounds were suddenly lucrative investments and large companies started gobbling up the family-run places....prices soared. So, given the rising costs to camp, and my unit was suddenly more valuable, we sold out.... later, if the market returns to normal we might get back into it. This is key. Check out how people are triggered by the smallest things. All because of the media and politicians controlling them. Trump kick's ass. I know you don't like him much, but I don't see a better candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m cool with the Trump flags. I don’t like the FJB flags, especially when it actually says Fock. And I would tell someone they are a moron to their face if they flew one. I still see hillary stickers on cars ocassionally. Usually they are 1985 Hondas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: This isn’t FBGays. Quote manipulation has been a thing on this bored for as long as I’ve been a member. Lighten up, it’s not “personal”. Lol It is when it's an attempt to make me look racist. It is when he changed his own quote to hide the fact that he said it. He crossed the line with me on this one. If he's just joking around then he should change his quote back to what it was originally. It doesn't bother me when it's funny. This was not funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It is when it's an attempt to make me look racist. It is when he changed his own quote to hide the fact that he said it. He crossed the line with me on this one. If he's just joking around then he should change his quote back to what it was originally. It doesn't bother me when it's funny. This was not funny. Meh...Get in line behind weepaw and mdcack with your meaningless attacks on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites