Trump 42, Biden 36, RFK jr. 22....oh my!

[jonmx 2,429]

29 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

We don’t have anything. Just meaningless  polls a year out.

 

of course they mean something.   People are losing confidence and even Trump looks like a better alternative to the typical voter.  Biden is the most inept puppet ever to hold office.  Even when Reagan was declining late in his second term, he was capable of giving great speeches and leading.  I have not seen Biden look like he had a clue where he is in over a year.   He needs help to find the bathroom in his own home.   Good luck with the polls changing.

[thegeneral 3,214]

21 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

of course they mean something.   People are losing confidence and even Trump looks like a better alternative to the typical voter.  Biden is the most inept puppet ever to hold office.  Even when Reagan was declining late in his second term, he was capable of giving great speeches and leading.  I have not seen Biden look like he had a clue where he is in over a year.   He needs help to find the bathroom in his own home.   Good luck with the polls changing.

They give an idea of a sample at the moment. This one you posted at the moment is an outlier.

These third party candidates will be interesting. I believe they won’t have anywhere near these numbers when it actually matters.

People won’t want Trump or in your case Biden so they will revert to one of the favorites who they can stomach more.

[seafoam1 3,025]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

They give an idea of a sample at the moment. This one you posted at the moment is an outlier.

These third party candidates will be interesting. I believe they won’t have anywhere near these numbers when it actually matters.

People won’t want Trump or in your case Biden so they will revert to one of the favorites who they can stomach more.

Just go vote for who you want to vote for and shut up. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Just go vote for who you want to vote for and shut up. 

Or in your case go vote for who you want to then cry about the results being rigged

[seafoam1 3,025]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Or in your case go vote for who you want to then cry about the results being rigged. 

Trump 2016. Russian Interference!!!! 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Trump 2016. Russian Interference!!!! 

Your like the whiny Republican version. BDS has got you bad!

[seafoam1 3,025]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Your like the whiny Republican version. BDS has got you bad!

Get back to me when creepy joe is out of office and isn't signing executive orders... Dumbass.. TDS is real. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Get back to me when creepy joe is out of office and isn't signing executive orders... Dumbass.. TDS is real. 

You can’t even go a post without mentioning Joe.

One of the worst cases of BDS I have seen. Sad to see. 

[seafoam1 3,025]

Just now, thegeneral said:

You can’t even go a post without mentioning Joe.

One of the worst cases of BDS I have seen. Sad to see. 

He's the president of the US. Stay current dumbass. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

He's the president of the US. Stay current dumbass. 

Oh a person’s current role in politics is important

That makes sense.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

 Biden losing the black vote and soon the Jewish donations. And it makes perfect a sense. 

[seafoam1 3,025]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Oh a person’s current role in politics is important

That makes sense.

Yeah. biden is a pedo who showered with his daughter abd sucks as current president. But you want to whine about a guy who just has opinions. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

10 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Yeah. biden is a pedo who showered with his daughter abd sucks as current president. But you want to whine about a guy who just has opinions. 

Dickwad…I offered opinions on this poll. No clue what the fock you are talking about other than typical whiny unrelated bullshet. It’s staggering how often you fail to track things.

Go buy your betch car and take a vacation

[seafoam1 3,025]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Dickwad…

Nice.

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Nice.

When the shoe fits

[seafoam1 3,025]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

When the shoe fits

ya ga ga bo...

[jonmx 2,429]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

RFK is an effing joke and you starting a thread based on internet poll underscores why you were nicknamed wrong_mx. 

 

Harvard Harris is one of the better polling organizations you pigeon-fuking idiot.   One of the vary best at predicting outcomes.

[squistion 2,202]

12 hours ago, jonmx said:

Harvard Harris is one of the better polling organizations you pigeon-fuking idiot.   One of the vary best at predicting outcomes.

It is an online poll, genius, and thus of little, if any, validity.

[seafoam1 3,025]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is an online poll, genius, and thus of little, if any, validity.

Kind of like your comments. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,546]

19 hours ago, thegeneral said:

If it comes down to Trump being the other choice all liberals, many moderates, and some Republicans will vote for anyone else.

If there are enough options like Cornell West or RFK it could pull enough votes away from Biden to make the difference.

Polls including RFK are all over the place however and it is still so early. 

Perhaps Liz Cheney runs and adds another wrinkle. Perhaps Biden or Trump has a health issue. Lots of shet can go down.

 

18 hours ago, Fnord said:

This could have maybe changed if Donald had tried to act like anything other than a rabid, narcissistic, authoritarian criminal (yaknow, just Don bein' Don) since his ouster. But since he owns the Republicans lock, stock, and barrel, and he just continues stomping all over the law, executive and political norms, and common decency, this is what we get. If the R's could put up literally ANYONE other than Trump, they win '24 in a landslide.

Yeah, I know all your leftist talking points about Trump.  As I've said numerous times, we all know Trump is a douche bag... but no more or less than what Biden is.  The leftist agenda is to attack Trump as a person, not his policies because moron's soak up that garbage.  The net result is that they elect a guy who's worse than the one we had, because..... well, they're not smart enough to know they've been conned.

[thegeneral 3,214]

32 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

Yeah, I know all your leftist talking points about Trump.  As I've said numerous times, we all know Trump is a douche bag... but no more or less than what Biden is.  The leftist agenda is to attack Trump as a person, not his policies because moron's soak up that garbage.  The net result is that they elect a guy who's worse than the one we had, because..... well, they're not smart enough to know they've been conned.

It’s not talking points it just what it is. Trump can’t help himself but at the same time that is his appeal to a sizable block. I’d contend it’s not enough people. It’s not like his shtick has improved. 

Biden is also a weak candidate so it will be very close. Anything could swing it. If either one of these dudes has a serious health issue for instance.

Oh and spare me the people are too dumb, or they have been brainwashed BS

[jonmx 2,429]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

It is an online poll, genius, and thus of little, if any, validity.

Online is just a tool, just like the telephone.  This is not an 1980's online poll where anyone can participate.   They take a sample of over 2000 registered voters and adjust the results for all kinds of demographics.  Their accuracy record is much better than the typical polling organization and is a highly respected poll with many decades of polling experience.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,546]

23 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s not talking points it just what it is. Trump can’t help himself but at the same time that is his appeal to a sizable block. I’d contend it’s not enough people. It’s not like his shtick has improved. 

Biden is also a weak candidate so it will be very close. Anything could swing it. If either one of these dudes has a serious health issue for instance.

Oh and spare me the people are too dumb, or they have been brainwashed BS

The vast majority of the population vote for what they see on tv and not what's really happening in the real world.  They simply vote for the propaganda then complain that nothing gets done.  That's what I mean by too dumb and brainwashed.  Last election, pretending that all votes were legit, there were over 150M ballots cast.  I'm willing to bet that about 100M of those people don't even pay attention to the actual policies being promoted.  Why?  Because every add on tv is propaganda that exaggerated their opponents point of view.  One add I just saw on tv Sunday afternoon was saying how a candidate literally hates women.  Seriously?

Don't give me this health issue crap.  Biden literally has dementia.  He was unfit to run in 2020, unfit to serve these 4 years, and unfit to run for re-election.  The fact that you even typed that sentence and had the audacity to type the last sentence, is just proof of you being too dumb and/or brainwashed.

[jonmx 2,429]

35 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s not talking points it just what it is. Trump can’t help himself but at the same time that is his appeal to a sizable block. I’d contend it’s not enough people. It’s not like his shtick has improved. 

Biden is also a weak candidate so it will be very close. Anything could swing it. If either one of these dudes has a serious health issue for instance.

Oh and spare me the people are too dumb, or they have been brainwashed BS

You are being brainwashed.  The CIA had over 400 operatives inside of media organizations in the 1970's when the Church commission exposed the CIA conspiracy to control all the messaging in the media through Operation Mockingbird and MK Ultra.  This is not some wild theory but known documented fact.   These practices were 'outlawed' but the CIA operatives as the law so there is no mechanism to keep them to it.  There is no proof the ceased these operations, in fact it is obvious they did not.  Obama even 're-legalized' government propaganda to the American people during his presidency. 

It is no mystery why major news organizations and social media platforms all speak with a unified voice....they are puppets of the establishment government.  You are being brainwashed as a matter of fact, but too f-ing stupid to know it or too stubborn to admit it.  

[squistion 2,202]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are being brainwashed.  The CIA had over 400 operatives inside of media organizations in the 1970's when the Church commission exposed the CIA conspiracy to control all the messaging in the media through Operation Mockingbird and MK Ultra.  This is not some wild theory but known documented fact.   These practices were 'outlawed' but the CIA operatives as the law so there is no mechanism to keep them to it.  There is no proof the ceased these operations, in fact it is obvious they did not.  Obama even 're-legalized' government propaganda to the American people during his presidency. 

It is no mystery why major news organizations and social media platforms all speak with a unified voice....they are puppets of the establishment government.  You are being brainwashed as a matter of fact, but too f-ing stupid to know it or too stubborn to admit it.  

He did? Really? 

[jonmx 2,429]

18 minutes ago, squistion said:

He did? Really? 

Yes he did.  As part of the cold war, the US government became the largest spreader of news propaganda in the entire world, named the U.S. Agency for Global Media.  On July 2, 2013, Obama amended the Act so that the organization's news could be broadcasted in America.    Of course it is spun as quality news, bit it is clearly government propaganda by any definition.  

https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/oversight/legislation/smith-mundt-faqs/

[thegeneral 3,214]

30 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The vast majority of the population vote for what they see on tv and not what's really happening in the real world.  They simply vote for the propaganda then complain that nothing gets done.  That's what I mean by too dumb and brainwashed.  Last election, pretending that all votes were legit, there were over 150M ballots cast.  I'm willing to bet that about 100M of those people don't even pay attention to the actual policies being promoted.  Why?  Because every add on tv is propaganda that exaggerated their opponents point of view.  One add I just saw on tv Sunday afternoon was saying how a candidate literally hates women.  Seriously?

Don't give me this health issue crap.  Biden literally has dementia.  He was unfit to run in 2020, unfit to serve these 4 years, and unfit to run for re-election.  The fact that you even typed that sentence and had the audacity to type the last sentence, is just proof of you being too dumb and/or brainwashed.

That you say Biden has dementia is proof of your brainwashing. Let me guess Trump is sharp as a tack  

I agree many people don’t really follow politics closely and hopefully aren’t watching cable news or consuming dipshets on social media 24/7.

[TBayXXXVII 2,546]

59 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

That you say Biden has dementia is proof of your brainwashing. Let me guess Trump is sharp as a tack  

I agree many people don’t really follow politics closely and hopefully aren’t watching cable news or consuming dipshets on social media 24/7.

I don't need to hear ANYONE say that Biden has dementia, I can see it for myself.  If you can't see that, then you're being selectively ignorant.  That's a you problem, not a me problem.

People don't need to follow politics closely, but they should have a handle on things, and they don't even have that.  That's the biggest problem in our country... the people are the problem, not the government.  The people allow the government to act like dictators without accountability.

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I don't need to hear ANYONE say that Biden has dementia, I can see it for myself.  If you can't see that, then you're being selectively ignorant.  That's a you problem, not a me problem.

People don't need to follow politics closely, but they should have a handle on things, and they don't even have that.  That's the biggest problem in our country... the people are the problem, not the government.  The people allow the government to act like dictators without accountability.

We can agree to disagree about your diagnosis there, Doc.

It would be nice if people paid more attention to a lot of things I agree. We are a nation getting dumber largely in part because of our success I’d offer.

[TBayXXXVII 2,546]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

We can agree to disagree about your diagnosis there, Doc.

It would be nice if people paid more attention to a lot of things I agree. We are a nation getting dumber largely in part because of our success I’d offer.

LOL, I'll await your opinion on the next president's health.  I'm sure it'll be gold.

Correct, people are dumber (and lazier), because of our success.  The difference between the parties is that one caters wants to make that more prevalent in society through Reparations, Universal Health Care, Equity, etc, while the other party wants to promote personal accountability.  Keep voting for the those who want to make the country worse, yet, keep blaming the people who want to prevent it.  That'll work great.

[thegeneral 3,214]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, I'll await your opinion on the next president's health.  I'm sure it'll be gold.

Correct, people are dumber (and lazier), because of our success.  The difference between the parties is that one caters wants to make that more prevalent in society through Reparations, Universal Health Care, Equity, etc, while the other party wants to promote personal accountability.  Keep voting for the those who want to make the country worse, yet, keep blaming the people who want to prevent it.  That'll work great.

Biden is old as hell. He doesn’t have dementia. If he does how does he keep making House republicans his betch?

If the mental acuity of these dudes is your priority you should listen to one of Don’s speeches he’s reading off the promoter these days. Dude thinks he won the election, is rambling about windmills killing whales, mixing up leaders of countries, thinks he wasn’t indicted, confuses Obama and Biden, on and on. 

[jonmx 2,429]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Biden is old as hell. He doesn’t have dementia. If he does how does he keep making House republicans his betch?

If the mental acuity of these dudes is your priority you should listen to one of Don’s speeches he’s reading off the promoter these days. Dude thinks he won the election, is rambling about windmills killing whales, mixing up leaders of countries, thinks he wasn’t indicted, confuses Obama and Biden, on and on. 

The amount of mental distortion it takes to believe that Biden does not sufferers from some form of dementia is incredible.   Is this just denial or what?   Every appearance Biden makes has clear signs he has lost it.   

I will tell you this right now, there is zero chance that Biden shows up for any debate this election cycle.   He simply does not have the mental capacity to do so.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

35 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The amount of mental distortion it takes to believe that Biden does not sufferers from some form of dementia is incredible.   Is this just denial or what?   Every appearance Biden makes has clear signs he has lost it.   

I will tell you this right now, there is zero chance that Biden shows up for any debate this election cycle.   He simply does not have the mental capacity to do so.  

If Biden (or Trump) do not debate then they lose. 

[jonmx 2,429]

9 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

If Biden (or Trump) do not debate then they lose. 

Lol....You really don't know your own party then.  The media will spin it as Trump's ideas are far too dangerous to even debate and will refuse to give him a national stage and Biden will be excused from not debating.   You are supporting this move towards fascism that you refuse to acknowledge.    

[thegeneral 3,214]

28 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Lol....You really don't know your own party then.  The media will spin it as Trump's ideas are far too dangerous to even debate and will refuse to give him a national stage and Biden will be excused from not debating.   You are supporting this move towards fascism that you refuse to acknowledge.    

Would you focking relax. Turn on Fox News, go to social media, listen to AM radio and you can get your fill of conservative propaganda. 

Who is keeping Trump from debating right now? Rachel Maddow!!!11!!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Biden is old as hell. He doesn’t have dementia. If he does how does he keep making House republicans his betch?

If the mental acuity of these dudes is your priority you should listen to one of Don’s speeches he’s reading off the promoter these days. Dude thinks he won the election, is rambling about windmills killing whales, mixing up leaders of countries, thinks he wasn’t indicted, confuses Obama and Biden, on and on. 

He signs executive orders his handlers write for him. Probably used an auto pen. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He signs executive orders his handlers write for him. Probably used an auto pen. 

Of course. It’s his team that makes the GOP lawmakers look like dopes and tricks them into passing things.

Super genius Trump couldn’t get them to build a fence and got the government shutdown for a month

[Fnord 2,272]

36 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Lol....You really don't know your own party then.  The media will spin it as Trump's ideas are far too dangerous to even debate and will refuse to give him a national stage and Biden will be excused from not debating.   You are supporting this move towards fascism that you refuse to acknowledge.    

Trump is sitting out the debates of his own accord. What's he going to do, defend himself against a bunch of indictments and commission of sedition?

This is where your bullshlt falls apart. You hate fascists and fascism, then unironically support the candidate with the highest authoritarian tendencies, supported by those that hold the law in contempt. You're not too far away from being an anarchist/ terrorist. A few more months of whatever you're consuming oughtta get you there. Godspeed.

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

43 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Trump is sitting out the debates of his own accord. What's he going to do, defend himself against a bunch of indictments and commission of sedition?

This is where your bullshlt falls apart. You hate fascists and fascism, then unironically support the candidate with the highest authoritarian tendencies, supported by those that hold the law in contempt. You're not too far away from being an anarchist/ terrorist. A few more months of whatever you're consuming oughtta get you there. Godspeed.

 

 

 

Trump doesn't want to do debates because he likely has to pick out of that group for VPOTUS. 

The RNC does not want the same situation in 2020 between Biden and Harris in the primary debates. Harris implied Biden was a racist and that all the sexual allegations against him were true. Then she had to backtrack, which failed miserably. 

Someone like Nikki Haley, her best chance at future POTUS is to be VPOTUS first, then bide her time, then run in 2028 if Trump wins in 2024. There's no incentive for her to debate Trump. Even if she can hammer him in a debate, the numbers won't shake out for her to get the nomination. Trump, on his end, actually needs someone like Haley ( good looking minority woman with no scandal and foreign policy chops) 

This is more logistical for VPOTUS than for avoiding talks of "sedition" 

Trump has zero chance to be charged with sedition. It's pretty clear you are either reading sources that are making up sedition claims or you just don't understand the practical legal mechanics of actual sedition. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Sounds like Trump is a big betch to me.