Hamas terror organization charter targets Christians and US service organizations

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Ok. I'll put you in the same column as most MAGAMOOKS: unable to really support their views via evidence and debate, prefer to hit and run with shite like the above.

You mean rolling out a vaccine in record time that the dems tried to diminish by the current VP saying shes skeptical?  

What exactly are you getting at by his covid response?   Getting called xenophobic for trying to cancel flights from china?   

Tell me.  

Point blank period is thr dems didnt want Trump getting credit for the vaccine in an upcoming election year.  That is obvious.   

Put me in a box all you want, Lib.  Goofy azz mfer.  

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Just now, League Champion said:

Then Condemn Joe Biden!!! SAY IT!!!!! HES A PEDO!!! SAY IT. 

YOU WON'T, YOU CAN'T 

I won't because all the noise around it smacks of RW Media lies. I don't know what he does in private.  He does some weird and creepy sometimes, he's not a savvy speaker,  and he's definitelysaid some racist shlt in the past. Maybe he is a racist pedo. I don't know. Neither do you. I know I'd happily vote for someone else.

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Just now, Fnord said:

I won't 

SHOCKER 

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

You mean rolling out a vaccine in record time that the dems tried to diminish by the current VP saying shes skeptical?  

What exactly are you getting at by his covid response?   Getting called xenophobic for trying to cancel flights from china?   

Tell me.  

Remind me again what he did to facilitate the vaccine? Other than GTFO of the way for once?

That's not my problem with it though. He dismantled the governmental pandemic team that would have helped immensely with an informed response. Then he never took it seriously. He cared more about the numbers of sick and dead looking bad than he did about the people suffering. Not just the suffering of those afflicted, but their loved ones and the healthcare providers that served them. He didn’t GAF and he did nothing but hand out money, since that's the only thing that matters to him.

Bottom line is he thoroughly flubbed a once-a-century disaster in a polarized country that was begging for some unity. A real leader would have capitalized on that. Easily. America vs. Covid. We will prevail! Our differences don't matter in the face of something so awful!

He made the polarization worse. Intentionally. And that's why he didn't get reelected. 

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21 minutes ago, League Champion said:

SHOCKER 

Perfect example of your cognitive dissonance. You literally just lifted my words directly from their context. I couldn't have summed up your approach better. Thanks!

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6 hours ago, Fnord said:

Looks like a peaceful gathering. And Dan Bongino IS an enemy of the USA.

Why? Or are you just saying stuff. I wonder who on the right besides Mitt Romney you think isn’t an enemy of the US? 

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Flowmax on TILT.  

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5 hours ago, RLLD said:

So you....are...asking me to assert what would be better had Trump been elected?    OK, everything.... I mean, its a worthless question.  

Here is something to consider....had Joe Biden come into office....and done nothing......literally nothing....    we would all have had a better last few years. But instead, he had to make a point....he had to repay the radicals on the left, and screwed us with his policies. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why? Or are you just saying stuff. I wonder who on the right besides Mitt Romney you think isn’t an enemy of the US? 

 What a maroon. He thinks a former Secret Service Agent is an enemy of the country. They think anybody who believes America should be the country the founders envisioned is "an enemy of the country." 

Itsatip, We aren't the ones trying to communize the place. 

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11 hours ago, Fnord said:

You're assertion is every bit as worthless as my question. Trump’s policies benefitted those that care deeply about money, and the accumulation of it. Fortunately for him there's no shortage of people that like money, me included. They did fuk-all in regards to anything else.

What did he work with Congress on? When did he ever attempt to form a concensus or coalition? What did he shepherd through the jungles of DC that was meaningful, that helped people in a way beyond financially? What political savvy, leadership, gravitas, humility, or empathy did he ever display? What did he do that any rank and file Republican couldn't have done more effectively?

The policies absolutely helped people who care about money, which is any sane person hoping to not spend their entire weekly earnings on gas and food....or wanted to work; and not the fake employment numbers we get today, but actual employment PROGRESS.

The President was serving US not Congress....and that is proper.

He did the right things, which is so unusual you cannot even fathom it....it staggers you because you are so accustomed to the corruption of typical government.

 

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15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why? Or are you just saying stuff. I wonder who on the right besides Mitt Romney you think isn’t an enemy of the US? 

I think those that have a large platform used to spread lies and division, especially when their history supports their credibility, are a giant problem. Dan Bongino is a perfect example.

I think the MAGA concept is detrimental. I would not call most Republicans an enemy of the US. Those that vocally support Trump and feed into his "brand" are especially harmful. I have no problem with ordinary Republicans, despite their party going completely rogue over the last 10-ish years.

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1 minute ago, Fnord said:

MAGA

Make America Great Again?

Yeah, who would want that?? 

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15 hours ago, Fnord said:

 I don't know what he does in private.  He does some weird and creepy sometimes, he's not a savvy speaker,  and he's definitelysaid some racist shlt in the past. 

You don't know what he does in private, but what he does in public speaks volumes....whatever he does do in private is likely much worse than what we the people are allowed to see. 

This goes for most people and relationships; no body openly talks about the bad and shady shiiite. As humans, we don't show that side of ourselves outside of a very very small selection of people. You're probably different in public than you are at home. It's just a human fact. 

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4 hours ago, RLLD said:

The policies absolutely helped people who care about money, which is any sane person hoping to not spend their entire weekly earnings on gas and food....or wanted to work; and not the fake employment numbers we get today, but actual employment PROGRESS.

The President was serving US not Congress....and that is proper.

He did the right things, which is so unusual you cannot even fathom it....it staggers you because you are so accustomed to the corruption of typical government.

 

No comments about his lack of leadership or humanity?

And "serving the US, not congress" comment? Come on. Presidents lead by working with other leaders. Trump prefers to "lead" by fiat, and cannot handle pushback or dissent. He cannot compromise and does not care a lick about anyone but himself. I notice this always gets hushed in MAGA circles, and reduced to pithy comments about mean tweets, or how everyone knows he's a POS, but look how much money we made! Some things, like democracy, are more important. 

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9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I think those that have a large platform used to spread lies and division, especially when their history supports their credibility, are a giant problem. Dan Bongino is a perfect example.

I think the MAGA concept is detrimental. I would not call most Republicans an enemy of the US. Those that vocally support Trump and feed into his "brand" are especially harmful. I have no problem with ordinary Republicans, despite their party going completely rogue over the last 10-ish years.

So you’re not going to actually say why. Just some unspecific attack. Ok. 

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4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

You don't know what he does in private, but what he does in public speaks volumes....whatever he does do in private is likely much worse than what we the people are allowed to see. 

This goes for most people and relationships; no body openly talks about the bad and shady shiiite. As humans, we don't show that side of ourselves outside of a very very small selection of people. You're probably different in public than you are at home. It's just a human fact. 

Agreed. Apply the same logic to Trump and then explain to me his appeal. 

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5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

No comments about his lack of leadership or humanity?

And "serving the US, not congress" comment? Come on. Presidents lead by working with other leaders. Trump prefers to "lead" by fiat, and cannot handle pushback or dissent. He cannot compromise and does not care a lick about anyone but himself. I notice this always gets hushed in MAGA circles, and reduced to pithy comments about mean tweets, or how everyone knows he's a POS, but look how much money we made! Some things, like democracy, are more important. 

I found his leadership to be more than good.  Humanity does not put food on my table, good policy that does not devalue my money does.  Trump served ME and the people of THIS nation.

MY president will fight for ME, and that means through the balance of power established by our Republic as well.....  

Democracy is what put him in office, it was what came after that perverts Democracy. 

Here is the important divergence for you and I.......IF....it were now be true that President Biden were treated as Trump was, I would STILL object....but you would only start. Because your position is not one of integrity, YOUR position ebbs and flows based on your emotional response to the PERSON.  This is deeply flawed.

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11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

No comments about his lack of leadership or humanity?

And "serving the US, not congress" comment? Come on. Presidents lead by working with other leaders. Trump prefers to "lead" by fiat, and cannot handle pushback or dissent. He cannot compromise and does not care a lick about anyone but himself. I notice this always gets hushed in MAGA circles, and reduced to pithy comments about mean tweets, or how everyone knows he's a POS, but look how much money we made! Some things, like democracy, are more important. 

Trump didn’t work with congress? His signed legislation says different.  But I do hope he doesn’t work wit them this time. Fock em. Just clean the place up, Mass firings and mass deportation.  Doesn’t need congress for that. Also indictments. Many indictments.  

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23 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Agreed. Apply the same logic to Trump and then explain to me his appeal. 

I will fully admit that Trump is a misogynistic piece of shiite. 

I don't vote for the person's character. Regardless of the little letter after their name, they are all pieces of shiite. 

His policies and the fact that my family was better off when he was in office is the appeal. 

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6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I will fully admit that Trump is a misogynistic piece of shiite. 

I don't vote for the person's character. Regardless of the little letter after their name, they are all pieces of shiite. 

His policies and the fact that my family was better off when he was in office is the appeal. 

This.   You need the most effective leader, not one who seems nice.   When Trump was in office he was supremely effective, more so than I would have anticipated; I was delighted.  Plus....the media excoriated him daily, I mean they went after him with reckless abandon.....so I was getting policy that made my life better AND the media had my back covered IN FULL.  IT was the best possible combination.

The curent solution helps no one, and the majority of the media just protects the President....  its a bad feeling.

I would like to have people who think Trump is a bad leader serve under someone like him in the military (as I have) and then serve under someone like Biden (as I have).  Because when you are in a combat unit....you will NEVER want a Biden.....EVER.....

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2 hours ago, RLLD said:

This.   You need the most effective leader, not one who seems nice.   When Trump was in office he was supremely effective, more so than I would have anticipated; I was delighted.  Plus....the media excoriated him daily, I mean they went after him with reckless abandon.....so I was getting policy that made my life better AND the media had my back covered IN FULL.  IT was the best possible combination.

The curent solution helps no one, and the majority of the media just protects the President....  its a bad feeling.

I would like to have people who think Trump is a bad leader serve under someone like him in the military (as I have) and then serve under someone like Biden (as I have).  Because when you are in a combat unit....you will NEVER want a Biden.....EVER.....

Please. You want a coward leading you into combat? Good luck. Also, despite having not served or experienced combat, I can definitively state that the only thing that should be compared to or approached in the same way as combat, is combat. I'm not going to excel at my job if I treat my staff like army privates. That approach simply doesn't work anymore.

We will eternally disagree on Trump’s efficacy while in office, which is fine. 

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1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Please. You want a coward leading you into combat? Good luck. Also, despite having not served or experienced combat, I can definitively state that the only thing that should be compared to or approached in the same way as combat, is combat. I'm not going to excel at my job if I treat my staff like army privates. That approach simply doesn't work anymore.

We will eternally disagree on Trump’s efficacy while in office, which is fine. 

Interesting, while I did serve with some who I may have questioned as to whether or not they were a coward I cannot recall a specific coward.  None of us would have been all that enthralled with following a coward, but in the military you will encounter leaders who are of higher quality, and some of lower.....you do not get to choose.

What combat taught me was the importance of leadership, and what it looks like when it is good.  Good leaders are not always all that likeable....so I learned that a competent dooshbag is far superior to and incompetent "good guy".   Trump was a very good leader, Biden is not. Trump is a doosh....Biden is not.  I will take Trump, or honestly just about any other Republican, over Biden....he is riunous.

If there is a Republican candidate among them you like, lets pick them.....and then lets encourage the Trump=era policies....they were fantastic. 

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9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

despite having not served or experienced combat, I can definitively state that the only thing that should be compared to or approached in the same way as combat

 

Yes, and be glad that you haven't experienced Combat. You get to sleep at night. 

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On 12/1/2023 at 2:36 PM, League Champion said:

 

Yes, and be glad that you haven't experienced Combat. You get to sleep at night. 

I'm from a family with pretty strong military ties. I made a choice not to follow the same path. I appreciate the sacrifices of those that have served. But I would never encourage my children to enlist. No one comes out of armed service without scars. Even those that never saw combat. 

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I would never let my kid join the military. This country actively tells him he did something wrong via his very existence.  Let them/they go fight.  The future is theirs. 

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18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I would never let my kid join the military. This country actively tells him he did something wrong via his very existence.  Let them/they go fight.  The future is theirs. 

I get your point.  The military is not all "bad", but it is by no means perfect. I think it can be a great place to grow up a little more.  I wish all kids had to spend a couple years in the military, it might wring out of them all this social justice nonsense.

I am absolutely adviding my son to not do the Marines.....I did that....I do not want that for him.   Encouraging him to investigate OCS approach whereby maybe he can leave college and commission into say....Air Force, Coast Guard or maybe Navy.  Now, that being said I have had occasion to hold some conversations with higher ranking Naval officers recently, thanks to Hamas, and these officers assure me they expect an active conflict with China in the next 10 years and it likely will emphasize naval elements. They seemed serious.

Now....I would ABSOLUTELY discourage entering like the police force.....foooooockkkk no..... they way the world is pandering to criminals at the expense of the police?  fock that.....