Jan 6, 2021

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No one is pretending that, you are making that up and pretending someone is saying that. 

 

32 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Sadly, I think he will, and this Hunter pardon just sealed the deal. 

[jonmx 2,429]

Just now, MDC said:

Imagine being stupid enough to believe a career fraudster like Donald Trump is in it for anything but $. You’d have to be focking retarded.

Trump had huge dollars before he ran  and is not getting rich running for president.  He is being relentlessly prosecuted by the most powerful government in the world and has escaped multiple assassination attempts along with a couple obscenely large and corrupt civil/legal judgements.  You have to be a retard to think he is going through all this is for money.  

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said:

 

Your misrepresentation of my words is not likely to convince anyone.  Too many have been here long enough and know I have stated all along that Trump would complete those pardons and that I opposed that move.....you need to find a different maneuver, no one will buy this from you...

Now, you failed attempt aside, this pardon is problematic, and you are clearly a liberals....which means you are probably just focking stupid, so that this is not adding up for you is not that big a deal.

"I" on the other hand wanted the press and others to be able to stand up against this, and vocally oppose it, if only to potentially limit the numbers he might actually pardon.

But even the stupid fockong liberals, yourself excluded perhaps as you seem to be nearly retarded, will have a tough time now pushing back unless they also pushed back on Biden..... this is simple stuff, even your dumb arse should be able to follow it.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Your misrepresentation of my words is not likely to convince anyone.  Too many have been here long enough and know I have stated all along that Trump would complete those pardons and that I opposed that move.....you need to find a different maneuver, no one will buy this from you...

Now, you failed attempt aside, this pardon is problematic, and you are clearly a liberals....which means you are probably just focking stupid, so that this is not adding up for you is not that big a deal.

"I" on the other hand wanted the press and others to be able to stand up against this, and vocally oppose it, if only to potentially limit the numbers he might actually pardon.

But even the stupid fockong liberals, yourself excluded perhaps as you seem to be nearly retarded, will have a tough time now pushing back unless they also pushed back on Biden..... this is simple stuff, even your dumb arse should be able to follow it.

Deep breaths....

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Deep breaths....

By all means, if your so stupid you need to remind yourself to breathe, do so.

Now, I take this rather seriously, I do NOT want those people pardoned, I DO NOT CARE that Hunter was pardoned, I said he would be months ago...when all the liberals were making fun of me for saying it.....

MY problem is that he could have just said he loved his son and been done with it.  Instead, he used the Trumpism of the legal system abusing his son for political purposes......if you do not understand how that focking moron just gifted Trump with those words, I cannot help you....

How about this, we call contact the White House and insist that who ever is actually running this nation lock Biden in a room until inauguration day so he cannot fock anything else up?

[thegeneral 3,208]

15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

If there are exceptions it will be like two or three who have a long criminal history. 

We will see. Why would their criminal history come into play regarding what happened on Jan 6th. They weren’t jailed for the past.

They are all victims of Nancy Pelosi and the Deep State.

[jonmx 2,429]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

MY problem is that he could have just said he loved his son and been done with it.  Instead, he used the Trumpism of the legal system abusing his son for political purposes......

What are you talking about?   You are insinuating it was Trump who lied and mischaracterized the justice system.   Biden is the only one lying here.  His DOJ handed Hunter the biggest sweetheart immunity deal ever given but it got rejected.  Biden's DOJ did not malicious prosecute Hunter, they handled him with kids gloves and tried to get away with a wrist slap and immunity.   But Biden's DOJ did maliciously prosecute Trump and the J6ers.   Why are you equating gross abuses and over prosecutions which Trump has rightfully pointed out with Biden's endless lies and corruption and abuses of our justice system. 

[RLLD 4,230]

4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

What are you talking about?   You are insinuating it was Trump who lied and mischaracterized the justice system.   Biden is the only one lying here.  His DOJ handed Hunter the biggest sweetheart immunity deal ever given but it got rejected.  Biden's DOJ did not malicious prosecute Hunter, they handled him with kids gloves and tried to get away with a wrist slap and immunity.   But Biden's DOJ did maliciously prosecute Trump and the J6ers.   Why are you equating gross abuses and over prosecutions which Trump has rightfully pointed out with Biden's endless lies and corruption and abuses of our justice system. 

No, Trump was spot on.   He actually WAS persecuted by the legal system.

Hunter was NOT persecuted. In fact the legal system was rather accommodating toward Hunter.

Biden once again lied when he did not need to lie.

I take issue with this because I see all those who go out into the streets and cause harm as being the same, I make no distinctions.  So for me, if you were prosecuted for the BLM riots or the Jan 6th riot, then I say go to jail and stay there.

The allowance for some to be criminals and others to not be is a liberal doctrine, do not allow yourself that luxury.

[jonmx 2,429]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

We will see. Why would their criminal history come into play regarding what happened on Jan 6th. They weren’t jailed for the past.

They are all victims of Nancy Pelosi and the Deep State.

There were 40,000 people there including a handful of psychopaths.  If it were me, I would let them all out on principle of equal justice which is the foundation of our justice system.  But there were a few psychopaths who instigated violence and had a long history whom I would not cry over if they stayed in prison.  They were probably technically entrapped to some extent, but they were the type who look for any excuse to engage in violence and did not need to be incited.  

[jonmx 2,429]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

I take issue with this because I see all those who go out into the streets and cause harm as being the same, I make no distinctions.  So for me, if you were prosecuted for the BLM riots or the Jan 6th riot, then I say go to jail and stay there.

The allowance for some to be criminals and others to not be is a liberal doctrine, do not allow yourself that luxury.

 

Equal treatment to me is the most important aspect which makes our justice system fair.  There was no legal history for the way 99 percent of those prosecuted for the treatment they received.  The act of simply entering a public building was criminalized as some heinous crime.  Even if it was just a handful that were maliciously prosecuted, it would be disgusting.  But from what I have seen it was the vast majority which makes it a complete travesty of justice which must be immidiately rectified.  Equal treatment under the law is an American principle, not a liberal or conservative one.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,411]

Still arresting people. Just got a grandmother, Suzan McClain, who was walking around. Thank god. 

[jonmx 2,429]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Still arresting people. Just got a grandmother, Suzan McClain, who was walking around. Thank god. 

 

Authoritarian bastards are relentless even when they know their days are numbered.  It has me thinking they must have something planned.  Why would they continue these meaningless prosecutions?  

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Equal treatment to me is the most important aspect which makes our justice system fair.  There was no legal history for the way 99 percent of those prosecuted for the treatment they received.  The act of simply entering a public building was criminalized as some heinous crime.  Even if it was just a handful that were maliciously prosecuted, it would be disgusting.  But from what I have seen it was the vast majority which makes it a complete travesty of justice which must be immidiately rectified.  Equal treatment under the law is an American principle, not a liberal or conservative one.  

Well, lets be honest.....liberals have become thoroughly corrupted, and anywhere we find them holding power we will find absolutely corruption and horrid things happening to people.  So yes, there is disparity in justice, for now those who lean conservative still hold some morality and are not behaving in the vile manner we see coming from liberals.

Now, before or resident liars(liberals) come in and misquote or misrepresent me, I want to emphasize that conservatives can also be corrupt and likely are.....just not to the repugnant extent as their liberal counterparts.  And I do hold out hope that they will not return the corrupt behaviors back on to liberals....even if they richly deserve it.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

You know it is the authoritarian bastards who imprison citizens for exercising their rights.  You have your tongue so far up the authoritarian butts you can't think.  Seriously, you can not be this effing dumb.  

 

Do you do a traditional butter and garlic? Do you just use salt and pepper? No seasoning at all?

[thegeneral 3,208]

27 minutes ago, jonmx said:

There were 40,000 people there including a handful of psychopaths.  If it were me, I would let them all out on principle of equal justice which is the foundation of our justice system.  But there were a few psychopaths who instigated violence and had a long history whom I would not cry over if they stayed in prison.  They were probably technically entrapped to some extent, but they were the type who look for any excuse to engage in violence and did not need to be incited.  

So there was violent, rioting protestors there. 

Of the 40k you say were there we have had like 1500 prosecuted to various degrees. 

How many of the psychos as you described them are part of the Jan 6th choir that Donald salutes

[IGotWorms 4,058]

4 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

What you 'watch' is a highly selective 1/10,000 of the video available, hand-picked by Pelosi's team to make a relatively boring event look like a dangerous riot.   The damage to the Capitol building was relatively minor and the violence was grossly exaggerated.  There was a reason they screamed bloody murder when Tucker dared showed a few minutes of other clips which more accurately showed what happen thst day.  

- not a single rioters brought a firearm inside the Capitol, but yet every media source declared it an 'armed insurrection'.  

-  tons of tear gas was shot outside the building completely unnecessary which gave the video the feeling it was far more violent then it was.  There was no arson going on, it was all tear-gas from the police.

- the two people who died that day were rioters, at the hands of police, but yet the media reported it as a 'deadly' insurrection for most of the day to give the appearance the rioters were killing people, but it was the cops murdering people.  

- the pipe bombs outside the DNC and RNC were government plants again to manipulate the narrative of that day.   This is the most violent act of the day, but they stopped investigating it and evidence magically disappeared.

- Pelosi has admitted she could have stopped it, but refused added security from the national gaurd.  

- the FBI team which was monitoring the groups leading up to the J6, were lead by the same people who staged and entrapped the Whitmer kidnapping.  Every major group there was infiltrated by government resources and the government knew in advance they could be triggered. There were over 100 intelligence assets on the ground that day some of whom instigated the breech instead of stopping it.

Our government and their minions in the media are manipulating the public.  Our government knew in advance and instead of stopping it, ensured that it happened.  You are just too effing stupid to realize you are being played like an idiot.  Stop being an idiot.  

Seriously,  fuk those in the government who locked up some 1400 innocent people over the last four years to advance their evil authoritarian agenda.  And thank God for Trump who has the spine to take on these bastards who are running the swamp and destroying the fabric of this country.    

 

 

[jonmx 2,429]

39 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So yes, there is disparity in justice, for now those who lean conservative still hold some morality and are not behaving in the vile manner we see coming from liberals.

 

It is not just about some disparity in how justice was handed out, it was all complete perversion of the law.  Turning memos on a check into some false business records misdemeanor and twisting that into 34 felony counts by falsely claiming those check memos somehow illegally influenced the election or maybe was some kind of tax cheat is illegally targeting individuals by creating a crime which no one has ever been prosecuted for out of thin air.  Likewise the obstruction of an official perceeding that most J6ers were prosecuted on was based on whether you entered a building was a completely noval and made up crime. 

These are not simply a disparity.  These are intentionally targeting individuals (most of whom were just ordinary citizen) to shut up their voices.   This was an attempt by the federal government to stomp on free speech rights.  If there is one thing I am more passionate about than equal treatment, it would be free speech.   These J6 prosecutions in my book were the most vile abuse of citizen rights since the Internment of Japanese Americans.

[jonmx 2,429]

14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Do you do a traditional butter and garlic? Do you just use salt and pepper? No seasoning at all?

You ability to bootlick and butt kiss is unmatched.  In your retarded mind those trying to free the Jews were the bootlickers.  What a complete dumbazz you are. 

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Do you do a traditional butter and garlic? Do you just use salt and pepper? No seasoning at all?

I like to use Kinder's The Rub on my authoritarian butt, and then smoke at 225 for 12 hours.

[RLLD 4,230]

12 minutes ago, jonmx said:

It is not just about some disparity in how justice was handed out, it was all complete perversion of the law.  Turning memos on a check into some false business records misdemeanor and twisting that into 34 felony counts by falsely claiming those check memos somehow illegally influenced the election or maybe was some kind of tax cheat is illegally targeting individuals by creating a crime which no one has ever been prosecuted for out of thin air.  Likewise the obstruction of an official perceeding that most J6ers were prosecuted on was based on whether you entered a building was a completely noval and made up crime. 

These are not simply a disparity.  These are intentionally targeting individuals (most of whom were just ordinary citizen) to shut up their voices.   This was an attempt by the federal government to stomp on free speech rights.  If there is one thing I am more passionate about than equal treatment, it would be free speech.   These J6 prosecutions in my book were the most vile abuse of citizen rights since the Internment of Japanese Americans.

Doing the right thing is always going to be more challenging than just allowing yourself to succumb to the bad.   Its just easier to be criminal than to be good.

I believe that good people can eventually win out, I believe that right now those who lean more conservative are better than those who lean left.  I maintain my hope in the good people.

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I believe that good people can eventually win out, I believe that right now those who lean more conservative are better than those who lean left.  I maintain my hope in the good people.

So you think Trump is one of the good ones who is not a criminal and just wants to do the right thing?

 

 

[jonmx 2,429]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Doing the right thing is always going to be more challenging than just allowing yourself to succumb to the bad.   Its just easier to be criminal than to be good.

I believe that good people can eventually win out, I believe that right now those who lean more conservative are better than those who lean left.  I maintain my hope in the good people.

People are inheriently bad, right or left.   Our system was better than others because it had transparency and multiple levels of checks and balances.   Once we create this all powerful executive branch with hundreds of agencies, a gazillion employees and a Google plex number of laws and regulations to abuse which operates in many cases in complete secrecy with very little checks, it is going to be abused.   We must greatly reduce the authority within the executive branch and make them answerable to our elected officials and not be able to hide behind ongoing investigations or by making everything confidential and off limits.  I am not sure why this is even debatable, but here in this forum we can see so many are still bootlicking for this corrupt system.  

[jonmx 2,429]

6 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

So you think Trump is one of the good ones who is not a criminal and just wants to do the right thing?

 

Trump like any powerful person is not 'good', but what he is trying to accomplish is good.   But if Trump can decentralize power and weaken the executive branch, he will have gone a long ways towards restoring a more honest government accountable to the people.  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

59 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You ability to bootlick and butt kiss is unmatched.  In your retarded mind those trying to free the Jews were the bootlickers.  What a complete dumbazz you are. 

Why are you protective of your recipe?

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

32 minutes ago, jonmx said:

People are inheriently bad, right or left.   Our system was better than others because it had transparency and multiple levels of checks and balances.   Once we create this all powerful executive branch with hundreds of agencies, a gazillion employees and a Google plex number of laws and regulations to abuse which operates in many cases in complete secrecy with very little checks, it is going to be abused.   We must greatly reduce the authority within the executive branch and make them answerable to our elected officials and not be able to hide behind ongoing investigations or by making everything confidential and off limits.  I am not sure why this is even debatable, but here in this forum we can see so many are still bootlicking for this corrupt system.  

You sound dumb. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

32 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Trump like any powerful person is not 'good', but what he is trying to accomplish is good.   But if Trump can decentralize power and weaken the executive branch, he will have gone a long ways towards restoring a more honest government accountable to the people.  

Wow. Trump wants to strengthen the Executive Branch and have all the power. His ridiculous actions resulted in cases to the SC where his picks basically said it’s up to Congress to discipline the Prez and the office can do what it wants.

[thegeneral 3,208]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Why are you protective of your recipe?

Lol

[RLLD 4,230]

40 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

So you think Trump is one of the good ones who is not a criminal and just wants to do the right thing?

 

 

I think Trump is a doosh, but I know something you cannot understand. I served under good leaders and bad, when my life was on the line, I understand that the doosh who is a good leader is superior to the nice guys who sucks..... that means I wont care about the inconsequential when it comes to Trump, only that he is delivering good outcomes.

[jonmx 2,429]

40 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Wow. Trump wants to strengthen the Executive Branch and have all the power. His ridiculous actions resulted in cases to the SC where his picks basically said it’s up to Congress to discipline the Prez and the office can do what it wants.

Are you a retard? I said Trump will weaken the executive.  Trump's comment about being a dictator on day 1 was to drain the swamp of its power.   Such idiots not listening to any context. 

[jonmx 2,429]

25 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You sound dumb. 

Only to an idiot.   All you fockers do is ignore all the points.   You know everything i said is true and you know your side it a bootlicking shiteshow.  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

59 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Only to an idiot.   All you fockers do is ignore all the points.   You know everything i said is true and you know your side it a bootlicking shiteshow.  

Okay look- you don't want to give me your bootlicking recipe. At least tell me how you cook it? Do you broil it, saute it, al dente?

C'mon man- give us something. Your posts never say anything worthwhile- at least give the crew here your recipe.

[jonmx 2,429]

13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Okay look- you don't want to give me your bootlicking recipe. At least tell me how you cook it? Do you broil it, saute it, al dente?

C'mon man- give us something. Your posts never say anything worthwhile- at least give the crew here your recipe.

Standing for freedom is not bootlicking.  You are one dumb MFer. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Are you a retard? I said Trump will weaken the executive.  Trump's comment about being a dictator on day 1 was to drain the swamp of its power.   Such idiots not listening to any context. 

Riggght. First, he’s full of shet. He wants his swamp in there, billionaire sycophants and donors.

Second, when he’s gone the next person has all the same boundries that have been muddied because of his actions. 

What are you even talking about

[Hardcore troubadour 15,411]

Mooney gonna kill his little recipe joke. Probably say it 17 times today. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

16 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Standing for freedom is not bootlicking.  You are one dumb MFer. 

Standing for freedom

 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Standing for freedom

 

Jonmx doesn't strike me as someone who is going to do a whole lot of standing for anything

[MDC 7,407]

Jonmx talking about authoritarian bastards.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,411]

I don’t think my friend should or will get a pardon. But I think a commutation of his sentence is in order. 

[squistion 2,197]

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1867312283870806136

Heads up: Trump tells TIME he plans to pardon almost every Jan. 6 rioter.

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1867312283870806136

Heads up: Trump tells TIME he plans to pardon almost every Jan. 6 rioter.

So? 

Wait till you see who Biden Pardons. Worry about your own people, The Pedocrats.