Harris-Walz is the most radical progressive Democrat ticket in history.

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

How many illegal aliens would you like to see enter the United States once Harris is president? 

None, ideally - but it impossible to keep them all from crossing the border without stationing the National Guard or US Troops (which Trump might do if elected).

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1 minute ago, squistion said:

None, ideally - but it impossible to keep them all from crossing the border without stationing the National Guard or US Troops (which Trump might do if elected).

So you want zero illegals to enter, but you don’t want to stop them either. Wow that’s crazy lefty logic.

[MDC 7,509]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well I know that is how some media is spinning their words, and I anticipate that will be the case.  The media are devoted disciples to the liberal religion, they will only every portray anything spoken by their ideological opponents as "racist" or whatever.... 

I think we should not feed into that, but only because I want to force them back onto policy instead of playground name calling etc.    And at some point Trump will do it, usually as part of a policy-element, but not always.  So both sides can stand to be ignored and not rewarded for it. 

I watched Trump’s performance at NABJ. There was no spin necessary. It was the same dog whistle racism he’s peddled in forever. It was gratifying to see the audience laugh at him, like a clown.  

[RLLD 4,255]

14 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I hear you, but what "policy" has Trump ever stood by other than "what will make me win and richer"?  He does have a long history of being America First, but in a selfish/racist way.

A few things come to mind, distilled down to at least an attempt to stem the tide at the border, advocating for energy independence, strong trade negotiation, getting NATO countries to "pay their fair share', profound help for the AA community but also the lower classes in general....  and then other stuff...

1. America gained 7 million new jobs far exceeding all projections
2. Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000, more than five times gains during the entire previous administration.
3. The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
4. Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
5. More Americans reported being employed than ever before (almost160 million)
6. Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
7. for the first time in nearly 3 decades incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States
8. Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
9. Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
10. Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
11. Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
12. Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade
13. African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.
14. During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1%, the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
15. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act
16. Doubled the standard deduction making the first $24,000 earned by a married couple completely tax-free.
17. Doubled the child tax credit.
18. Cut the business tax rate from 35 percent – the highest in the developed world – all the way down to 21 percent.
19. Small businesses allowed deduct 20 percent of their business income.
20. Businesses allowed deduct 100 percent of the cost of their capital investments in the year the investment is made.
21. Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from overseas.
22. Created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones where capital gains on long-term investments are taxed at zero.Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a result of these new investments.
23. Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
24. Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
25. Returned 56 hostages and detainees from more than 24 countries.
26. Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Nuclear Deal and imposed crippling sanctions on the Iranian Regime.
27. Conducted vigorous enforcement on all sanctions to bring Iran’s oil exports to zero and deny the regime its principal source of revenue

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2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

So you want zero illegals to enter, but you don’t want to stop them either. Wow that’s crazy lefty logic.

I didn't say that, Straw Man. I was just pointing out that stopping all of them from entering is impossible without some unrealistic, impractical and cost prohibitive measures (like stationing  US Troops across the border with Mexico). 

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4 minutes ago, MDC said:

I watched Trump’s performance at NABJ. There was no spin necessary. It was the same dog whistle racism he’s peddled in forever. It was gratifying to see the audience laugh at him, like a clown.  

I loved that one in particular.   They came into it for the takedown.  Apparently they got their marching orders and set out to pretend he was racist and he put it right back on them, it was fantastic.

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5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

What was racist about Trump’s Policies and how was he selfish?

well, i mean if you dont know, it's easy to find... but Him and his Dad's renting policies in NY before he was president. The whole Central Park 5 thing. Being anti immigrants but his 3rd wife and her parents "thats cool". Questioning Obama's citizenship because he was black and had a muslim sounding name. Having the secret service "must stay at his hotels policy" and charging higher rates so he can profit.  Tax breaks for the rich (and poor) but the poor people's expire and the rich people's don't.  Racking up 718 Big Macs on our dime (I made that one up but, maybe true) it just goes on and on and on.  How anyone cant see that he is a selfish narcissist and that is his first instinct, in every decision he makes, is beyond me.

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Just now, RLLD said:

A few things come to mind, distilled down to at least an attempt to stem the tide at the border, advocating for energy independence, strong trade negotiation, getting NATO countries to "pay their fair share', profound help for the AA community but also the lower classes in general....  and then other stuff...

1. America gained 7 million new jobs far exceeding all projections
2. Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000, more than five times gains during the entire previous administration.
3. The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
4. Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
5. More Americans reported being employed than ever before (almost160 million)
6. Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
7. for the first time in nearly 3 decades incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States
8. Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
9. Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
10. Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
11. Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
12. Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade
13. African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.
14. During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1%, the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
15. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act
16. Doubled the standard deduction making the first $24,000 earned by a married couple completely tax-free.
17. Doubled the child tax credit.
18. Cut the business tax rate from 35 percent – the highest in the developed world – all the way down to 21 percent.
19. Small businesses allowed deduct 20 percent of their business income.
20. Businesses allowed deduct 100 percent of the cost of their capital investments in the year the investment is made.
21. Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from overseas.
22. Created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones where capital gains on long-term investments are taxed at zero.Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a result of these new investments.
23. Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
24. Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
25. Returned 56 hostages and detainees from more than 24 countries.
26. Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Nuclear Deal and imposed crippling sanctions on the Iranian Regime.
27. Conducted vigorous enforcement on all sanctions to bring Iran’s oil exports to zero and deny the regime its principal source of revenue

Thank you for the response.  I disagree that some of these are good things.  But thats Politics.  Again.  Thank you.

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Just now, RLLD said:

I loved that one in particular.   They came into it for the takedown.  Apparently they got their marching orders and set out to pretend he was racist and he put it right back on them, it was fantastic.

Trump came across as deranged to anyone who wasn’t going to vote for him anyway. There isn’t a single person in the world on the fence about Don who saw it and thought, “Sign me up for 4 more years of that!”

Don can’t help it though. He has the self control of a toddler. 

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Just now, MDC said:

Trump came across as deranged to anyone who wasn’t going to vote for him anyway. There isn’t a single person in the world on the fence about Don who saw it and thought, “Sign me up for 4 more years of that!”

Don can’t help it though. He has the self control of a toddler. 

No he did not.  He came across as someone who was not going to be impugned by a leftist with an agenda, as someone who would stand up to the character assassination.  He came across as measured in the face of a provocative interrogation and put it back on that biased POS.  It was a fantastic.

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7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No he did not.  He came across as someone who was not going to be impugned by a leftist with an agenda, as someone who would stand up to the character assassination.  He came across as measured in the face of a provocative interrogation and put it back on that biased POS.  It was a fantastic.

Don could have used that question as an opportunity to highlight his supposedly strong record of support for black people. Instead, he lashed out like a hormonal woman, questioned Kamala’s blackness, and made the ridiculous claim that he’s done more for black people than any POTUS since Lincoln. By the end, the entire audience was laughing at him, like a clown.

Heckuva job Don.  
 

Edit: Followed it up days later by lashing out at the Republican Governor of GA and crying about fake fraud again. Very stable genius!  

 

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Don could have used that question as an opportunity to highlight his supposedly strong record of support for black people. Instead, he lashed out like a hormonal woman, questioned Kamala’s blackness, and made the ridiculous claim that he’s done more for black people than any POTUS since Lincoln. By the end, the entire audience was laughing at him, like a clown.

Heckuva job Don.  

 

This is where I am often fascinated.  We both watched the same thing, and we came away with starkly different perceptions as to what transpired.

You and I are likely each convinced that we have the correct interpretation.

 

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Don could have used that question as an opportunity to highlight his supposedly strong record of support for black people. Instead, he lashed out like a hormonal woman, questioned Kamala’s blackness, and made the ridiculous claim that he’s done more for black people than any POTUS since Lincoln. By the end, the entire audience was laughing at him, like a clown.

Heckuva job Don.  

And seriously, how can he or his supporters think that questioning how someone, who is of mixed race, identifies themselves is going to be a winning issue in 2024?

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

This is where I am often fascinated.  We both watched the same thing, and we came away with starkly different perceptions as to what transpired.

You and I are likely each convinced that we have the correct interpretation.

 

Since I was never going to vote for Don and you always were, it doesn’t really matter what you and I think. 

I strongly suspect that saying racist stuff about Kamala and having an entire hall of black journalists mock and laugh at Don won’t help him gain votes.

But I hope he keeps it up.  

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

Most of the items @RLLD listed happened under Trump’s watch; there was nothing he did to cause them. Of the few items listed that Trump played a hand in, I strongly disagree that they were good for this country. An example: leaving the Iran nuclear deal was a disaster that we are seeing playing out in real time. We may be on the brink of a war very soon between Israel and Iran, and if so it will have many of its roots in that idiotic decision by Trump. 
 

That being said I want to praise @RLLD for being willing to actually to discuss issues with regard to Donald Trump; that’s exceedingly rare in this forum. 

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Since I was never going to vote for Don and you always were, it doesn’t really matter what you and I think. 

I strongly suspect that saying racist stuff about Kamala and having an entire hall of black journalists mock and laugh at Don won’t help him gain votes.

But I hope he keeps it up.  

Exactly

It''s like, Go For It Donny!

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Just now, MDC said:

Since I was never going to vote for Don and you always were, it doesn’t really matter what you and I think. 

Same.   But what gets me is... how can Trump supporters think he "is a very stable genius/genius business man but constantly shoots himself in the foot by blabbering like an idiot and not be like "hmmm maybe this guy is conman?"   If Trump would literally just go hide in a basement, he would gain more voters.

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5 minutes ago, MDC said:

Since I was never going to vote for Don and you always were, it doesn’t really matter what you and I think. 

I strongly suspect that saying racist stuff about Kamala and having an entire hall of black journalists mock and laugh at Don won’t help him gain votes.

But I hope he keeps it up.  

No get that.  So then it is likely true that those already entrenched with or against either candidate will "see" something negative or positive.  I think the question likely then would be whether those undecided folks saw one or the other.  The crowd present sure cheered him when he stood up for himself.

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10 minutes ago, squistion said:

And seriously, how can he or his supporters think that questioning how someone, who is of mixed race, identifies themselves is going to be a winning issue in 2024?

You know better than black people? 

I wouldn't claim to know but, interesting when you ask fellas in the barbershop...

 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

That is completely unhinged stupidity. 

His cult is already going to vote for him.  Every time he opens his mouth he says something dumb that is turning off undecided people.

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

Your liberal cult is always going to vote for communism. You all want it bad. 

See how that works? 

I'm not a liberal or a communist. I am very anti Trump cult however.

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4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No get that.  So then it is likely true that those already entrenched with or against either candidate will "see" something negative or positive. I think the question likely then would be whether those undecided folks saw one or the other.  The crowd present sure cheered him when he stood up for himself.

I’d be willing to bet that Trump’s dog whistle racism, whiny victimhood and self congratulation are NOT going to persuade anyone who wasn’t in his camp already. But I hope he keeps it up, because it is funny!  

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8 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Same.   But what gets me is... how can Trump supporters think he "is a very stable genius/genius business man but constantly shoots himself in the foot by blabbering like an idiot and not be like "hmmm maybe this guy is conman?"   If Trump would literally just go hide in a basement, he would gain more voters.

They are what they complain about most. Die hard MAGA are so entrenched in the right wing media bubble that they believe all of it. League champion/maximum overkunt is a closeted pedo/tranny, so he claims that's what libs are. Peefoam is a pathetic incel that blames everyone else for his own failures, so he hates everybody. JuneJulyHorsefocker likes watching well endowed men bone his wife, so he calls everyone a cuck. It's simple, really.

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’d be willing to bet that Trump’s dog whistle racism, whiny victimhood and self congratulation are NOT going to persuade anyone who wasn’t in his camp already. But I hope he keeps it up, because it is funny!  

Yes, but that is your bias talking.  I could counter with how what I observed would resonate. but that does not make me any more correct than you.   What will likely arise is that somewhere in the middle are a slice of people who rely more on common sense, and will evaluate it more thoughtfully than either you or I.

I hope people see it my way, because everyones life was much better when Trump was in office, and I am willing to endure silly statements to get a better life.  I endures silly statements under Biden with inflation etc....so lets just focus on quality of life over personal feelings about the canidate. 

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https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1821210175832793521

Whose brilliant idea was it to try and get more women to support Trump by making fun of his opponent for placing free tampons in bathrooms and calling him 'Tampon Tim'?

It's almost as if Republicans are looking for even more ways to piss Women voters off. Taking away abortion, telling women without children that they should have less rights and their lead candidate having been found to have raped a woman by a judge must not be enough.

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12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yes, but that is your bias talking.  I could counter with how what I observed would resonate. but that does not make me any more correct than you.   What will likely arise is that somewhere in the middle are a slice of people who rely more on common sense, and will evaluate it more thoughtfully than either you or I.

Those middle people saw a deranged old guy lash out in retard anger, say racist shiit and compare himself to Lincoln.  

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16 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You go girl. 

thanks sis, lets get some mimosas at a tranny brunch this weekend! yassssssss

[purdygood 355]

19 minutes ago, Fnord said:

They are what they complain about most. Die hard MAGA are so entrenched in the right wing media bubble that they believe all of it. League champion/maximum overkunt is a closeted pedo/tranny, so he claims that's what libs are. Peefoam is a pathetic incel that blames everyone else for his own failures, so he hates everybody. JuneJulyHorsefocker likes watching well endowed men bone his wife, so he calls everyone a cuck. It's simple, really.

It's 100% projection with MAGA, they are just too dumb to self reflect and realize it.

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12 minutes ago, MDC said:

Those middle people saw a deranged old guy lash out in retard anger, say racist shiit and compare himself to Lincoln.  

No, they saw a reporter with an agenda lash out at a man who was invited to come speak, and that man stood up to the attacks of a partisan hack with dignity and control......

So you see it yours, and I see it mine....

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No, they saw a reporter with an agenda lash out at a man who was invited to come speak, and that man stood up to the attacks of a partisan hack with dignity and control......

So you see it yours, and I see it mine....

 Please, PLEASE Donald: Continue to behave with dignity and control!  

[purdygood 355]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

MDCack is waiting for you at the Red Lobster. 

Again I dont know what MD Cack means,   but Cheddar Bay Biscuits on me! See ya there!

[RLLD 4,255]

17 minutes ago, MDC said:

 Please, PLEASE Donald: Continue to behave with dignity and control!  

The snarky sarcasm is your " go to" when all else fails. As a narcissist you presume you have it all figured out so when you cannot convince others to see as you do, you make a mockery of it.....like a child

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Just now, RLLD said:

The snarky sarcasm is your " go to" when all else fails. As a narcissist you presume you have it all figured out so when you cannot convince others to see as you do, you make a mockery of it.....like a child

... "like a Trump"

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The snarky sarcasm is your " go to" when all else fails. As a narcissist you presume you have it all figured out so when you cannot convince others to see as you do, you make a mockery of it.....like a child

I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m praying that Trump follows your advice and continues to show the same dignity and control he did at the NABJ event. 

Normals love that stuff!  

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9 minutes ago, purdygood said:

... "like a Trump"

non sequitor

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7 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m praying that Trump follows your advice and continues to show the same dignity and control he did at the NABJ event. 

Normals love that stuff!  

Oh, cool, then we are in alignment, cause I hope he does it again as well  

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1 hour ago, purdygood said:

well, i mean if you dont know, it's easy to find... but Him and his Dad's renting policies in NY before he was president. The whole Central Park 5 thing. Being anti immigrants but his 3rd wife and her parents "thats cool". Questioning Obama's citizenship because he was black and had a muslim sounding name. Having the secret service "must stay at his hotels policy" and charging higher rates so he can profit.  Tax breaks for the rich (and poor) but the poor people's expire and the rich people's don't.  Racking up 718 Big Macs on our dime (I made that one up but, maybe true) it just goes on and on and on.  How anyone cant see that he is a selfish narcissist and that is his first instinct, in every decision he makes, is beyond me.

That selfish bastard! 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-net-worth-fell-third-during-his-presidency-forbes-says-1581266

Donald Trump's Net Worth Fell by a Third During His Presidency, Forbes Says

Link to where Trump said he questioned Obama citizenship because he was black and had a Muslim sounding name. You are erase baiter and just keep making crap up.

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2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

That selfish bastard!

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-net-worth-fell-third-during-his-presidency-forbes-says-1581266

Donald Trump's Net Worth Fell by a Third During His Presidency, Forbes Says

Because he is in actuality a HORRIBLE BUSINESS MAN. And grifter.  He didn't realize being a jerk and running for President would immediately make 50% of the country hate him and hurt his "Brand":   That's just bad business.  He could have just invested in TRUMP Brand, kept making Home Alone sequels and he might be an "actual billionaire" by now.

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14 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Because he is in actuality a HORRIBLE BUSINESS MAN. And grifter.  He didn't realize being a jerk and running for President would immediately make 50% of the country hate him and hurt his "Brand":   That's just bad business.  He could have just invested in TRUMP Brand, kept making Home Alone sequels and he might be an "actual billionaire" by now.

Yet he chose to try to help his country by running for president. He didn’t become president to become rich. Your thought process is really screwed up.

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2 hours ago, squistion said:

I didn't say that, Straw Man. I was just pointing out that stopping all of them from entering is impossible without some unrealistic, impractical and cost prohibitive measures (like stationing  US Troops across the border with Mexico). 

But Biden paid $3 million a day not to build the wall, where is the logic in that. Stupid lefty logic.

https://nypost.com/2021/07/24/biden-spending-over-2b-to-halt-border-wall-construction-amid-migrant-crisis/

Biden spending over $2B to halt border wall construction amid migrant crisis

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President Joe Biden is spending at least $3 million a day on contractors “to watch steel rust in the desert,” Senate Republicans have found — as he tries to put a stop to former President Trump’s planned wall along the US-Mexico border, despite the ongoing crisis there.

“President Biden is paying professional construction contractors to babysit metal to the tune of $2 billion and counting, while at the same time we’ve seen a 20-year high number of migrants crossing our open border,” said Sen. James Lankford (R., Okla.)