WooleyBully 2 Posted September 2, 2024 As we get closer to week 1, any Dallas homers hearing anything specific about the Dowdle/Elliott split? He’s a free agent in my league so I’m debating picking him up and dropping Jameson Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 976 Posted September 2, 2024 We know what Elliot is at this point, but Dowdle still has hope. I have low expectations for Dallas's running game, but at least Dowdle can be called a viable Lotto ticket. Or least, before Cook signed. Now I don't know what to think other than Jerry Jones has gone completely bananas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 2, 2024 What other RBs and WRs do you own? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WooleyBully 2 Posted September 2, 2024 25 minutes ago, weepaws said: What other RBs and WRs do you own? JT, Walker, Harris, Spears, and McLaughlin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 976 Posted September 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, WooleyBully said: JT, Walker, Harris, Spears, and McLaughlin. And a nice Lotto ticket in McLaughlin to boot. I also have Spears, so I'd love to rave about how smart we are. I can't. That pick left a bad taste. Wanted Moss, Singletary or Mostert. Oh well.... maybe he'll surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 2, 2024 29 minutes ago, WooleyBully said: JT, Walker, Harris, Spears, and McLaughlin. Wr? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WooleyBully 2 Posted September 2, 2024 10 minutes ago, weepaws said: Wr? JJ, Kupp, McLaurin, cooper, Kirk, and the aforementioned JW. 10 team 0.5 PPR. Start 2 WR plus a flex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WooleyBully 2 Posted September 2, 2024 39 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: And a nice Lotto ticket in McLaughlin to boot. I also have Spears, so I'd love to rave about how smart we are. I can't. That pick left a bad taste. Wanted Moss, Singletary or Mostert. Oh well.... maybe he'll surprise. I’m high on Spears as an RB4. Just an injury away from being an RB1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 474 Posted September 3, 2024 I wouldn't want to rely on any Cowboy RB. I think Zeke is the one to own if you have to, but don't have high expectations. Any other RB I would look elsewhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 976 Posted September 3, 2024 16 minutes ago, polecatt said: I wouldn't want to rely on any Cowboy RB. I think Zeke is the one to own if you have to, but don't have high expectations. Any other RB I would look elsewhere I'd look elsewhere as well. As I said before the draft, even if Zeke went undrafted, I still wouldn't pick him up. Just can't imagine a time I'd ever want to start him and pray to the good Lord he actually scores. Because when he doesn't.... what's he give ya? 3 rec and 40 total yds? Rather have Lotto tickets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 3, 2024 3 hours ago, WooleyBully said: JJ, Kupp, McLaurin, cooper, Kirk, and the aforementioned JW. 10 team 0.5 PPR. Start 2 WR plus a flex. I would drop Kirk for Dowdle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted September 3, 2024 4 hours ago, GobbleDog said: Just can't imagine a time I'd ever want to start him and pray to the good Lord he actually scores. Because when he doesn't.... what's he give ya? 3 rec and 40 total yds? well, thats why he is a backup and not a starter. Dowdle is the same situation. he will likely put up some decent yards, but probably not much in the TD department. if you could combine them into one back you might have something, but thats not reality. both are good quality backups. but you should not count on them giving you starter numbers often. they are likely matchup plays. 3 hours ago, weepaws said: I would drop Kirk for Dowdle. I respectfully disagree. with the departure of Ridley to Tennessee its probable hes the #1 WR once again. so I see his volume going back up again. Brian Thomas is likely the next #1 but hes probably a year away from making that a reality. it might happen late in the season, but in the interim I'm predicting a better year than last year for Kirk. but likely not quite as good as what he got the year before. I think that makes him a WR2. which I think makes him more valuable than Dowdle. if you disagree and think he is valued at a low end WR3 then I'd say its close and it may actually depend on what you need. ie. whether you need a WR or a RB more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 3, 2024 I’m not against Kirk, but if you look at the OP WRs and Rbs I think a rb is needed. The OP league is a .5 ppr, I would rank Kirk has the OP wr5th or wr 6 on the OP team, I would rather keep the upside with J Williams of the Lions over Kirk, but Dowdle could be worthy of a flex play since he plays on a powerful offensive team like the Cowboys, he’s not going to get much tds, unless he breaks a few big plays, possible, but baes on the OP lineup I would not drop J Williams, but I would drop Kirk for Dowdle. OP WRs= Jefferson/Kupp/Cooper/Mclaurin those will be the OP top Four, with upside with Williams, I think that would make Kirk the one to let go off. Rbs = Taylor/ Walker/ Harris/Spears/And Gobbledogs champion McLaughlin, I think Dowdle would be good add. Good luck OP of your final decision, it’s a tough one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted September 3, 2024 I'd say the RBs are sufficient. I wouldn't drop any WRs or any other listed players for Dowdle. I'm a Cowboys fan too, although no insights as I don't live in Dallas or Texas for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 3, 2024 I would drop my wr6, for a potential rb3 or a rb with rb3 upside, it’s a very elementary decision. And I'm not a cowboys fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 149 Posted September 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, weepaws said: I would drop my wr6, for a potential rb3 or a rb with rb3 upside, it’s a very elementary decision. And I'm not a cowboys fan. I concur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WooleyBully 2 Posted September 3, 2024 3 hours ago, weepaws said: I would drop my wr6, for a potential rb3 or a rb with rb3 upside, it’s a very elementary decision. And I'm not a cowboys fan. I don't disagree with this thinking, but I struggle with determining who that 5th or 6th best receiver will be. Jameson is my 6th, but you agree his upside is worth keeping over adding Dowdle. JW was the only drop candidate I was considering. Lawrence and Kirk have a great connection. Now that Ridley is gone, I do feel he has a strong chance of reclaiming his WR1 status. I believe their offense will be more balanced than ever before with ETN, Engram, and Thomas getting their fair share of targets so it's doubtful that Kirk is in line for his best season. With that said, I think Kirk could be just as good or better than both McLaurin and Cooper. Kirk would get scooped up immediately if I dropped him for Dowdle which tells me he is perceived to have more value than Dowdle. An RB3 would definitely be more valuable to my team though. I am leaning towards just watching how the first week plays out. I am number 2 on the waiver priority so if Dowdle goes off or another stud emerges, I will be in a good position to pounce. I appreciate all the opinions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 3, 2024 48 minutes ago, WooleyBully said: I don't disagree with this thinking, but I struggle with determining who that 5th or 6th best receiver will be. Jameson is my 6th, but you agree his upside is worth keeping over adding Dowdle. JW was the only drop candidate I was considering. Lawrence and Kirk have a great connection. Now that Ridley is gone, I do feel he has a strong chance of reclaiming his WR1 status. I believe their offense will be more balanced than ever before with ETN, Engram, and Thomas getting their fair share of targets so it's doubtful that Kirk is in line for his best season. With that said, I think Kirk could be just as good or better than both McLaurin and Cooper. Kirk would get scooped up immediately if I dropped him for Dowdle which tells me he is perceived to have more value than Dowdle. An RB3 would definitely be more valuable to my team though. I am leaning towards just watching how the first week plays out. I am number 2 on the waiver priority so if Dowdle goes off or another stud emerges, I will be in a good position to pounce. I appreciate all the opinions! Thanks for the reply, Good luck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted September 4, 2024 5 hours ago, WooleyBully said: I don't disagree with this thinking, but I struggle with determining who that 5th or 6th best receiver will be. Jameson is my 6th, but you agree his upside is worth keeping over adding Dowdle. JW was the only drop candidate I was considering. Lawrence and Kirk have a great connection. Now that Ridley is gone, I do feel he has a strong chance of reclaiming his WR1 status. I believe their offense will be more balanced than ever before with ETN, Engram, and Thomas getting their fair share of targets so it's doubtful that Kirk is in line for his best season. With that said, I think Kirk could be just as good or better than both McLaurin and Cooper. Kirk would get scooped up immediately if I dropped him for Dowdle which tells me he is perceived to have more value than Dowdle. An RB3 would definitely be more valuable to my team though. I am leaning towards just watching how the first week plays out. I am number 2 on the waiver priority so if Dowdle goes off or another stud emerges, I will be in a good position to pounce. I appreciate all the opinions! do you have to drop someone? maybe you can make a trade. I acknowledge sometimes a trade doesnt materialize or takes time and if you need this now maybe the drop add option works best for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted September 4, 2024 6 hours ago, WooleyBully said: I don't disagree with this thinking, but I struggle with determining who that 5th or 6th best receiver will be. Jameson is my 6th, but you agree his upside is worth keeping over adding Dowdle. JW was the only drop candidate I was considering. Lawrence and Kirk have a great connection. Now that Ridley is gone, I do feel he has a strong chance of reclaiming his WR1 status. I believe their offense will be more balanced than ever before with ETN, Engram, and Thomas getting their fair share of targets so it's doubtful that Kirk is in line for his best season. With that said, I think Kirk could be just as good or better than both McLaurin and Cooper. Kirk would get scooped up immediately if I dropped him for Dowdle which tells me he is perceived to have more value than Dowdle. An RB3 would definitely be more valuable to my team though. I am leaning towards just watching how the first week plays out. I am number 2 on the waiver priority so if Dowdle goes off or another stud emerges, I will be in a good position to pounce. I appreciate all the opinions! Somebody asked this on the Jeff Mans show on SiriusXM Fantasy Radio today. He said DO NOT DROP Christian Kirk for Dowdle, regardless of how bad you need a running back and have a plethora of Wide Receivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted September 4, 2024 In my auction league, Christian Kirk was drafted for a lot. Jameson Williams was not drafted. Rico Dowdle was drafted for very little. Jeff Mans has been studying fantasy football for two decades; he plays in several expert leagues every year, he puts a lot of his money down on DFS and he studies every aspect of the NFL, it's players team situations, run blocking schemes, etc and gives advice for 2-3 hours every 6 days a week on Sirius Fantasy Radio channel 87 for several years. I do pretty well myself at FF and have won several championships. Just yesterday a new guy at my work said "I heard your the Fantasy King". I say hold Kirk. Wait on Dowdle. Or take weepaws advice. No don't do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 149 Posted September 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Somebody asked this on the Jeff Mans show on SiriusXM Fantasy Radio today. He said DO NOT DROP Christian Kirk for Dowdle, regardless of how bad you need a running back and have a plethora of Wide Receivers. Same wetodds charging for betting advice that are always wrong ... Truth is nobody knows ...you go with your gut feeling and hope it works out ...I personally think Kirk is talentless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted September 4, 2024 46 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said: Same wetodds charging for betting advice that are always wrong ... Truth is nobody knows ...you go with your gut feeling and hope it works out ...I personally think Kirk is talentless talentless isnt the word I'd use. if he was not talented he wouldnt be a starter in the NFL. but hes a fairly unspectacular guy for a #1 WR on his team. maybe a tad better than a JAG. he does a lot of things a bit better than average but but hes also not special in any way. for that reason he will never be a true #1. hes better cast as a #2 WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 4, 2024 I don’t see when the OP would ever start him over the OP top four WRs. I think Dowdle has a shot at posting flex numbers, and could potentially be the OP rb 3/4. But I hope I’m wrong and the OP is right, and I hope Jeff Mans is right , Ive never heard of him, but I don’t pay any attention to ff programs, and I hope Gepetto is right, after all he is the fantasy football king. I did own Kirk last season, and even said he post more ff points than Ridley. And he had a very good run before he was injured, I think he’s a good player, with a good relationship with his Qb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WooleyBully 2 Posted September 4, 2024 12 hours ago, weepaws said: I don’t see when the OP would ever start him over the OP top four WRs. I think Dowdle has a shot at posting flex numbers, and could potentially be the OP rb 3/4. But I hope I’m wrong and the OP is right, and I hope Jeff Mans is right , Ive never heard of him, but I don’t pay any attention to ff programs, and I hope Gepetto is right, after all he is the fantasy football king. I did own Kirk last season, and even said he post more ff points than Ridley. And he had a very good run before he was injured, I think he’s a good player, with a good relationship with his Qb. All good points. You’ve now got me thinking of a trade instead of just outright dropping him. If he goes off week 1, he may fetch a better RB3/4 than Dowdle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,151 Posted September 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, WooleyBully said: All good points. You’ve now got me thinking of a trade instead of just outright dropping him. If he goes off week 1, he may fetch a better RB3/4 than Dowdle. That’s a good ideal. Post it if that happens. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted September 8, 2024 Zeke doesn't look to bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites