Mass Deportation

[seafoam1 3,017]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Weeman Rodger weighs in

GeneralWeedouche started this thread. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

What’s this about citizenship?

You would put who in federal prison?

How would cities and states be turned over to Republican or Independent candidates?

So, in this country, you can come from a different country and apply to be a citizen.  There are steps to do that.  If these people are so inclined, they can do it if their state is ok with it and supplies the pathway.

Anyone who doesn't pay the bill for the costs involved in deporting illegal immigrants.

Well, the cities and states would have members of the DNC Caucus... who need to pay the bill or go to prison.  If they're all in prison, the only people left are the Independents and Republican's.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

I am asking how this is done. How do you pick these people up who are you picking up. This is your idea so asking how this process plays out. 

So, in this country, we have these things called "Busses" (link provided in case you don't know what one is).  What we do is, get the data from the city governments involving the people who are illegal, then go pick them up.  If we need more of these things we call "busses", we take more.  So, when we get these people, we take them to the immigration office.  When there, we find out where they came from and then we put them on a plane and fly them back there.

This will cost money.  Well, the we create this thing called a "bill", this is not a law, it's an itemized list of what things cost.  We take this bill and give it to the city those illegal immigrants came from.  They pay the bill.  If they refuse to pay the bill, the city officials are arrested for violating federal law and put in a federal prison until they pay the bill.

Now, because I know you're not smart enough to connect the dots, I'll tell you.  The federal law that they are breaking, is the one that will be signed into law (Executive order... let's not pretend that only Republican's make these), that will say that sanctuary cities and states will be responsible for the costs of the deportation of illegal immigrants.  Failure to do so, will result in a federal imprisonment until payment is procured.

[thegeneral 3,207]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

So, in this country, you can come from a different country and apply to be a citizen.  There are steps to do that.  If these people are so inclined, they can do it if their state is ok with it and supplies the pathway.

Anyone who doesn't pay the bill for the costs involved in deporting illegal immigrants.

Well, the cities and states would have members of the DNC Caucus... who need to pay the bill or go to prison.  If they're all in prison, the only people left are the Independents and Republican's.

So a pathway for people here to become citizens. Sounds good. Not sure about this state by state thing.

The other steps I’m not following what you are talking about but I do respect people’s opinions so thank you for typing that out. Anything involving people being put into prison won’t happen so I’m good on further explanation. 

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

So, in this country, we have these things called "Busses" (link provided in case you don't know what one is).  What we do is, get the data from the city governments involving the people who are illegal, then go pick them up.  If we need more of these things we call "busses", we take more.  So, when we get these people, we take them to the immigration office.  When there, we find out where they came from and then we put them on a plane and fly them back there.

This will cost money.  Well, the we create this thing called a "bill", this is not a law, it's an itemized list of what things cost.  We take this bill and give it to the city those illegal immigrants came from.  They pay the bill.  If they refuse to pay the bill, the city officials are arrested for violating federal law and put in a federal prison until they pay the bill.

Now, because I know you're not smart enough to connect the dots, I'll tell you.  The federal law that they are breaking, is the one that will be signed into law (Executive order... let's not pretend that only Republican's make these), that will say that sanctuary cities and states will be responsible for the costs of the deportation of illegal immigrants.  Failure to do so, will result in a federal imprisonment until payment is procured.

Why don't we send the bill to the countries the people came from? Like Mexico is paying for the wall. Win Win!

 

Or will Equador show up to pay it with pennies to be petty. And our Border Patrol agents "aint so good at math". 

[thegeneral 3,207]

10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

So, in this country, we have these things called "Busses" (link provided in case you don't know what one is).  What we do is, get the data from the city governments involving the people who are illegal, then go pick them up.  If we need more of these things we call "busses", we take more.  So, when we get these people, we take them to the immigration office.  When there, we find out where they came from and then we put them on a plane and fly them back there.

This will cost money.  Well, the we create this thing called a "bill", this is not a law, it's an itemized list of what things cost.  We take this bill and give it to the city those illegal immigrants came from.  They pay the bill.  If they refuse to pay the bill, the city officials are arrested for violating federal law and put in a federal prison until they pay the bill.

Now, because I know you're not smart enough to connect the dots, I'll tell you.  The federal law that they are breaking, is the one that will be signed into law (Executive order... let's not pretend that only Republican's make these), that will say that sanctuary cities and states will be responsible for the costs of the deportation of illegal immigrants.  Failure to do so, will result in a federal imprisonment until payment is procured.

Busses driving around picking up people? I can see some issues off the bat…For instance they will just wait for this to happen? What happens if they have weapons, probably going to need some type of force there. What if they have kids? What if you grab the wrong people? We are talking millions of people. The government is supposed to do this properly  

Yeah I don’t think this is in any way feasible practically and definitely not politically. 

 

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5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Their countries don’t want them and we don’t want them. I bet if we come together and concentrate we can come up with a solution, finally.  

Semi-subtle "jokes" about the holocaust now? How clever. Also, deranged and bigoted. Be better.

[jonnyutah 287]

We could send all the illegals to haiti. Might finally be able to grow some food there since those idiots would rather burn seed than plant it. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

So a pathway for people here to become citizens. Sounds good. Not sure about this state by state thing.

The other steps I’m not following what you are talking about but I do respect people’s opinions so thank you for typing that out. Anything involving people being put into prison won’t happen so I’m good on further explanation. 

It's states rights.  If a state wants to handle something one way, they're free to do it.

There has to be a penalty for breaking the law.  We have those already in place... it's not new.  If you commit a crime and are found guilty, people can go to prison.  This is no different.  If there is a bill to be paid, and you're not paying the bill, you're guilty of breaking the law.  In this case, the penalty is prison.  Also, I'm not putting the immigrants there... they're going back to the country they came from.  It's the politicians who are breaking federal law that's going to prison.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,403]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Semi-subtle "jokes" about the holocaust now? How clever. Also, deranged and bigoted. Be better.

Karen

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

16 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Why don't we send the bill to the countries the people came from? Like Mexico is paying for the wall. Win Win!

 

Or will Equador show up to pay it with pennies to be petty. And our Border Patrol agents "aint so good at math". 

Sounds good.  I'm all for it.  Democrat politicians can pay for the travel and then they can bill Mexico or Ecuador for reimbursement.  Good thinking.   I'm ok with that.

[thegeneral 3,207]

13 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's states rights.  If a state wants to handle something one way, they're free to do it.

There has to be a penalty for breaking the law.  We have those already in place... it's not new.  If you commit a crime and are found guilty, people can go to prison.  This is no different.  If there is a bill to be paid, and you're not paying the bill, you're guilty of breaking the law.  In this case, the penalty is prison.  Also, I'm not putting the immigrants there... they're going back to the country they came from.  It's the politicians who are breaking federal law that's going to prison.

What charges are you taking about that states would incur?

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

14 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Busses driving around picking up people? I can see some issues off the bat…For instance they will just wait for this to happen? What happens if they have weapons, probably going to need some type of force there. What if they have kids? What if you grab the wrong people? We are talking millions of people. The government is supposed to do this properly  

Yeah I don’t think this is in any way feasible practically and definitely not politically. 

 

Well, I was trying to be environmentally conscious.  Isn't that a liberal thing?  Mass transit, public transportation?  Ok, let's go with the Liberal actions instead of their words.  We'll drive cars to all of these residences and pick them up.  If they have a weapon, they make life easier, because now they're committing a crime.  Well, we are sending federal agents who will have guns.  If force is needed, it's self defense.  I'd hate to have these immigrants get harmed, but if they go peacefully, there won't be a problem.  If they have kids, the kids are going too.  They're not being arrested, they're being deported.

How would they get the wrong people?   If a person is a legal citizen, they have ID... or do you think they're too stupid like you think black people are too stupid to get an ID?  Why wouldn't the government do this properly... you trust them for everything else (for some weird reason).

Politically, I think it would be easier than you think.  Most of the country wants a secure border and a legitimate vetting process.   Most of the country are ok with deporting the criminals.  That's what I said in the beginning.  I said it could be done for others, but the primary objective is the criminals.  Let's get rid of them and see where the chips fall.  Like I said also, I'm ok with the other people coming here and taking the pathway to citizenship if their communist (sorry, Freudian slip), liberal government covers the cost without federal money.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What charges are you taking about that states would incur?

Already answered...

That might have been the wrong link.  Here's the right one (last paragraph).

 

[thegeneral 3,207]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Well, I was trying to be environmentally conscious.  Isn't that a liberal thing?  Mass transit, public transportation?  Ok, let's go with the Liberal actions instead of their words.  We'll drive cars to all of these residences and pick them up.  If they have a weapon, they make life easier, because now they're committing a crime.  Well, we are sending federal agents who will have guns.  If force is needed, it's self defense.  I'd hate to have these immigrants get harmed, but if they go peacefully, there won't be a problem.  If they have kids, the kids are going too.  They're not being arrested, they're being deported.

How would they get the wrong people?   If a person is a legal citizen, they have ID... or do you think they're too stupid like you think black people are too stupid to get an ID?  Why wouldn't the government do this properly... you trust them for everything else (for some weird reason).

Politically, I think it would be easier than you think.  Most of the country wants a secure border and a legitimate vetting process.   Most of the country are ok with deporting the criminals.  That's what I said in the beginning.  I said it could be done for others, but the primary objective is the criminals.  Let's get rid of them and see where the chips fall.  Like I said also, I'm ok with the other people coming here and taking the pathway to citizenship if their communist (sorry, Freudian slip), liberal government covers the cost without federal money.

Yeah I see there being many problems with armed forces run by a government agency picking up millions of people even if things worked perfectly.

I have a hard time understanding how people wouldn’t agree there.

There would be no chance of this getting through courts much less Congress where they couldn’t get a fence funded.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Yeah I see there being many problems with armed forces run by a government agency picking up millions of people even if things worked perfectly.

I have a hard time understanding how people wouldn’t agree there.

There would be no chance of this getting through courts much less Congress where they couldn’t get a fence funded.

Armed forces, being military?  I didn't say that.  I said government agents, meaning, ICE.

 

Don't have to get it through Congress, just do what Obama did with the ACA, ignore the rule of law and E.O. it and done.  Why's it ok for Obama but not Trump?  Let me guess, "it's (D)ifferent", right?

[Gladiators 1,987]

Great idea.  Let's get it done

[Hardcore troubadour 15,403]

You shut down the border completely and put the guard there, free up CBP to go round up the illegals. No military involvement in the capture. 

[jonnyutah 287]

Just wait inside the local agri dump. As they drive in with all their crap not properly secured, which is illegal, ask for ID. 

Boom. Party started. 

[squistion 2,194]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Armed forces, being military?  I didn't say that.  I said government agents, meaning, ICE.

 

Don't have to get it through Congress, just do what Obama did with the ACA, ignore the rule of law and E.O. it and done.  Why's it ok for Obama but not Trump?  Let me guess, "it's (D)ifferent", right?

The ACA was voted on and was passed by both the House and the Senate.  

[jonnyutah 287]

Just find the best place in town to buy tortillas. Run all the plates in the parking lot. Boom. Bus filling up real fast. 

[thegeneral 3,207]

6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Armed forces, being military?  I didn't say that.  I said government agents, meaning, ICE.

 

Don't have to get it through Congress, just do what Obama did with the ACA, ignore the rule of law and E.O. it and done.  Why's it ok for Obama but not Trump?  Let me guess, "it's (D)ifferent", right?

I don’t see the distinction between ICE or military. It’s that they would be armed by the Feds and going through neighborhoods scooping up folks. This is madness to me that you think this is feasible. But we can agree to disagree.

ACA did pass through Congress.

I doubt a Prez could unilaterally create a force to do what you describe but who knows with this SC

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

The ACA was voted on and was passed by both the House and the Senate.  

 

Just now, thegeneral said:

I don’t see the distinction between ICE or military. It’s that they would be armed by the Feds and going through neighborhoods scooping up folks. This is madness to me that you think this is feasible. But we can agree to disagree.

ACA did pass through Congress.

I doubt a Prez could unilaterally create a force to do what you describe but who knows with this SC

Typo issue, sorry... DACA.  I meant to keep it on topic.

[purdygood 352]

Just now, jonnyutah said:

Just find the best place in town to buy tortillas. Run all the plates in the parking lot. Boom. Bus filling up real fast. 

I love buying fresh tortillas.  I was born in America and am a citizen. (Obviously).  What if they round me up because my sticker is late in the mail? Can i sue the government for false imprisonment and being arrested without cause and retire? That should be a nice settlement. Great idea! Off to the Taco Truck! No work tomorrow!

[thegeneral 3,207]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

Typo issue, sorry... DACA.  I meant to keep it on topic.

Ok.

I think if Trump actually had to explain this policy he is proposing rather than word salads or his typical vagaries and non-answers and this plan you describe was the idea this would be very unpopular.

Maybe I’m wrong

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Ok.

I think if Trump actually had to explain this policy he is proposing rather than word salads or his typical vagaries and non-answers and this plan you describe was the idea this would be very unpopular.

Maybe I’m wrong

LOL, it doesn't matter HOW Trump says it, the Democrats will cut and paste his words and the MSM will go along with it.  They did it with "good people on both sides", they're doing it now with "bloodbath" and "dictator", and you will believe them.

[thegeneral 3,207]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, it doesn't matter HOW Trump says it, the Democrats will cut and paste his words and the MSM will go along with it.  They did it with "good people on both sides", they're doing it now with "bloodbath" and "dictator", and you will believe them.

He should give it a try on this one. Something tells me he won’t.

In case you didn’t notice I think you are the only one who really provided any level of detail.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He should give it a try on this one. Something tells me he won’t.

In case you didn’t notice I think you are the only one who really provided any level of detail.

No one puts detail out there, at any level because there will be a portion that love it, a portion that hate it, and a portion that will be indifferent.  The portion that is indifferent will be swayed by the best marketing campaign from the media.

A politicians #1 goal is to get elected.  Their #2 goal is to get re-elected.   Their #3 goal is to get re-re-elected.  At no point do any of them care about the actual position they hold.  They're all azzhats, the Democrats are just worse and the media is on it all, so they're of no value.

[purdygood 352]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He should give it a try on this one. Something tells me he won’t.

In case you didn’t notice I think you are the only one who really provided any level of detail.

Also, even if "the media" is just spinning his words...  if he can't choose his words carefully and mindfully so they can't be "spinned" is he really fit for the office?

[jonnyutah 287]

5 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I love buying fresh tortillas.  I was born in America and am a citizen. (Obviously).  What if they round me up because my sticker is late in the mail? Can i sue the government for false imprisonment and being arrested without cause and retire? That should be a nice settlement. Great idea! Off to the Taco Truck! No work tomorrow!

Why would they round up a citizen for their sticker being late?

[purdygood 352]

Just now, jonnyutah said:

Why would they round up a citizen for their sticker being late?

He said check the parking lot and check the license plates.   Bad hombres are probably driving unregistered cars. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

2 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Also, even if "the media" is just spinning his words...  if he can't choose his words carefully and mindfully so they can't be "spinned" is he really fit for the office?

LOL, yeah, that's the reason.  

[thegeneral 3,207]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No one puts detail out there, at any level because there will be a portion that love it, a portion that hate it, and a portion that will be indifferent.  The portion that is indifferent will be swayed by the best marketing campaign from the media.

A politicians #1 goal is to get elected.  Their #2 goal is to get re-elected.   Their #3 goal is to get re-re-elected.  At no point do any of them care about the actual position they hold.  They're all azzhats, the Democrats are just worse and the media is on it all, so they're of no value.

Keep this in mind when people are melting down because Kamala hasn’t explained her tax plans line by line or whatnot

The point of this was that removing millions by a mass deportation is crazy town. It would be a fiasco of the highest order. It’s a bumper sticker for Donald. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

He said check the parking lot and check the license plates.   Bad hombres are probably driving unregistered cars. 

My brother is a retired cop.  He said illegal immigrants had unregistered... out of state, cars about 99% of the time.

[jonnyutah 287]

Officer runs plates...registration is current. Owned by Purdygood. Hmmmm says he is 5'2" 210 pounds. Yep, thats him.

Lets go grab hector over there, those plates are reported stolen from a honda and thats a chevy malibu with some girls tied up in the back seat. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Keep this in mind when people are melting down because Kamala hasn’t explained her tax plans line by line or whatnot

The point of this was that removing millions by a mass deportation is crazy town. It would be a fiasco of the highest order. It’s a bumper sticker for Donald. 

Every politician is the same.

[jonnyutah 287]

3 minutes ago, purdygood said:

He said check the parking lot and check the license plates.   Bad hombres are probably driving unregistered cars. 

But your car is registered if the sticker is late in the mail.

[purdygood 352]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

My brother is a retired cop.  He said illegal immigrants had unregistered... out of state, cars about 99% of the time.

Yeah. But if that becomes policy. "Check the tortilla sellers".  And my sticker is late in the mail because the Trump appointed USPS director is slowing things down and i get harassed for that, that's a problem for me.  I was just clowning on the idea of "check the tortilla stands and we'll find the illegals" premise.  Super racist.   Even white a$$ white guys like me like Tacos. 

[purdygood 352]

5 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

But your car is registered if the sticker is late in the mail.

It also gives the cop (who we know a lot of them are hella shady) a reason to harass me for no reason when i'm just trying to buy some Taco's. Just a dumb idea. I know you were likely being hyperbolic. 

[avoiding injuries 1,580]

On 9/19/2024 at 1:50 PM, HellToupee said:

Cut off the $$ to their cards. When the call to complain tell them to come in and get a new one plus a bonus. When they come to claim slap the cuffs on them. The ones who figure out the plan will eventually fall for a different honeypot. The regular lowlife criminals will reveal themselves to you . When they commit a crime you grab & hold them. The exceptional hardworking ones can go about life with no bennies until of course if they commit a crime. Easy.

Can’t we give them pagers?