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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

Imagine coming online and trying to convince strangers that Donald Trump isn't a Pedo only trying to enrich himself.

More boring liberal trash from you...:doh:

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1 minute ago, Horseman said:

If you can proved a link to me saying that I will eat my hat.  

You said that not taking a stand on something means you don't have a backbone.  Why does a person need to take a stand?  You don't need to follow the believers or nonbelievers in order to have a backbone.

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You said that not taking a stand on something means you don't have a backbone.  Why does a person need to take a stand?  You don't need to follow the believers or nonbelievers in order to have a backbone.

Because there is overwhelming evidence in one direction (I admit it's not 100% certain!) and the probability is extremely low, get off the fence already Sally.    

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1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Because there is overwhelming evidence in one direction (I admit it's not 100% certain!) and the probability is extremely low, get off the fence already Sally.    

There are not many absolutes in life which is why I find myself in the middle more often than not.  I'm happy right where I'm at.

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I used to call myself agnostic because the existence or lack of existence of God can’t ever be proven, and I find a lot of vocal atheists to be obnoxious.

But gun to my head, I’m an atheist. Every culture in history has had a belief in God. Today’s religions aren’t any different than ancient Greeks talking about Zeus up on Mt. Olympus. 

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5 minutes ago, MDC said:

I used to call myself agnostic because the existence or lack of existence of God can’t ever be proven

Almost.

Agnostics believe the existence of god can't ever be proven.

It's not the atheist's job to prove the lack of existence of anything.  They're not the ones making the claim.  

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18 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Because there is overwhelming evidence in one direction (I admit it's not 100% certain!) and the probability is extremely low, get off the fence already Sally.    

Good ol' Trigger. 😤

"Must take a position, regardless of whether I have all the facts! And I will never change that position, regardless of any new facts!"

Such a MAGA way to handle oneself. Tell me Trigger, what is it like being so insecure?

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2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Almost.

Agnostics believe the existence of god can't ever be proven.

It's not the atheist's job to prove the lack of existence of anything.  They're not the ones making the claim.  

My understanding of the difference is:

Atheists: There is no God

Agnostics: The existence of God is unprovable 

I think a lot of agnostics are really just polite atheists.

 

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3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Must take a position, regardless of whether I have all the facts! And I will never change that position, regardless of any new facts!"

I'm waiting, any day you have facts for the existence of a god or a higher power I'm willing to hear it.  Until then it's extremely unlikely so I'm not holding my breath.  :thumbsup:

 

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3 minutes ago, MDC said:

My understanding of the difference is:

Atheists: There is no God

Agnostics: The existence of God is unprovable 

I think a lot of agnostics are really just polite atheists.

 

Agnostics are more about believing god is "unknowable" as opposed to unprovable. This is where I come from. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't, but if there is, there's no way a piddly human could possibly understand it, and also he/she/it/they/them/Chthulhu doesn't GAF about the ineffectual, unintelligent life forms on this backwater blue marble. 

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19 minutes ago, MDC said:

My understanding of the difference is:

Atheists: There is no God no evidence of a higher power when looking at the universe as a whole from an evolutionary biologist and astrophysics standpoint making the existence of a god extremely unlikely.

Agnostics: The existence of God is unprovable 

I think a lot of agnostics are really just polite atheists.

 

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