TheNewGirl 1,342 Posted January 31 Quote You've chosen to ignore content by TrailGuy. Options 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 31 21 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Nothing says PICK ME like telling someone that you are ignoring them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted January 31 1 hour ago, The Girlfriend said: Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party are universally classified by historians and political scientists as **far-right**. Here's a concise breakdown of the reasoning: 1. **Ideological Foundations**: - The Nazis emphasized **ultranationalism**, racial hierarchy, and authoritarianism—hallmarks of far-right ideologies. Their focus on Aryan supremacy and anti-Semitism contrasts sharply with left-wing values of equality and internationalism. 2. **Political Actions**: - The Nazis violently suppressed leftist movements (communists, socialists, and trade unions) and aligned with conservative elites. The 1934 purge of the socialist-leaning SA (*Night of the Long Knives*) solidified their break from left-wing factions. 3. **Economic Policies**: - While the Nazis implemented state intervention (e.g., public works), they preserved capitalist structures, collaborating with industrialists and privatizing some industries. This differs from left-wing socialism, which seeks to dismantle capitalist hierarchies. 4. **Fascism as Far-Right**: - Fascism, including Nazism, is academically categorized as far-right due to its emphasis on dictatorship, militarism, and suppression of dissent. Mussolini’s Italy, a fascist regime, is similarly right-wing. 5. **Misleading Party Name**: - The term "National Socialist" in the Nazi Party’s name was a strategic tool to coopt working-class support, not a reflection of socialist policies. Actual socialists were among the first targets of Nazi persecution. **Conclusion**: Despite superficial references to socialism, Hitler’s regime was unequivocally far-right, defined by its nationalism, authoritarianism, and racial extremism. The historical consensus firmly places Nazism on the extreme right of the political spectrum. Racial hierarchy (expanded for intersectional preferences) and suppression of dissent are two hallmarks of the current Left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Racial hierarchy (expanded for intersectional preferences) and suppression of dissent are two hallmarks of the current Left. The left believes all people are created equal and all races deserve to have a seat at the table. The left also believes in the truth. The right has dismantled diversity equity and inclusion, prioritized white males over everyone and demands that everyone follows the lies of their leader Trump. If you want to be in his administration you can't even admit that he lost the 2020 election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 Just now, jerryskids said: Racial hierarchy (expanded for intersectional preferences) and suppression of dissent are two hallmarks of the current Left. Your first point is so ludicrous I’m not going to bother. As for the 2nd, The Supreme court affirmed that the Biden Administration did no such thing. https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted January 31 Hitler and the Nazis don’t really fit into a “far-right” description- they are put there because of their war on Communism. But their corporatist structure and collectivism were pretty far removed from far-right ideas. But that’s neither here nor there. The problem with this thread, and with @EternalShinyAndChrome’s posts in general, is that like so many conservatives in this country he confuses American progressives with Communists. This is because, as I have tried to tell him numerous times, he doesn’t know the history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: Your first point is so ludicrous I’m not going to bother. As for the 2nd, The Supreme court affirmed that the Biden Administration did no such thing. https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case The first point is so obvious that I suspect you dropped one of your pots on your head. If you don't think the Left prioritizes people by where they fall on an intersectional spectrum, it's kinda hard to have an intelligent discussion with you. Biden... strawman much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The first point is so obvious that I suspect you dropped one of your pots on your head. If you don't think the Left prioritizes people by where they fall on an intersectional spectrum, it's kinda hard to have an intelligent discussion with you. Biden... strawman much? So stop replying. It’s pretty simple, Jerry. Instead, I feel your current predicament has left you feeling unfulfilled and itching for "wins" on the internet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: So stop replying. It’s pretty simple, Jerry. Instead, I feel your current predicament has left you feeling unfulfilled and itching for "wins" on the internet. It's a discussion board. When people show ignorance or use straw men, it's fair game to point it out. What's my current predicament? My cancer, which I apparently was mistaken to divulge to you? I'd say one of us is looking for an internet win, if you feel the need to bring that up. Good job, good effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: It's a discussion board. When people show ignorance or use straw men, it's fair game to point it out. What's my current predicament? My cancer, which I apparently was mistaken to divulge to you? I'd say one of us is looking for an internet win, if you feel the need to bring that up. Good job, good effort. Jerry I had forgotten that you had cancer. Hope things are going well for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Jerry I had forgotten that you had cancer. Hope things are going well for you. I fear he needs attention. I intentionally left it vague, but Jerry needed to make sure everyone remembers it was cancer. And then accuses me of bringing it up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: I fear he needs attention. I intentionally left it vague, but Jerry needed to make sure everyone remembers it was cancer. And then accuses me of bringing it up. You are a sad man, Jonesy. Hope you find some happiness in life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted January 31 46 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: I fear he needs attention. I intentionally left it vague, but Jerry needed to make sure everyone remembers it was cancer. And then accuses me of bringing it up. Also, what else might my predicament have been? You know me so well and all, I'm sure you can come up with multiple alternatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,919 Posted January 31 Why is the left so anti-Semitic now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 It sucks to be right. Sincerely, KoL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 581 Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: It sucks to be right. Sincerely, KoL Sure thing Rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted January 31 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Jerry I had forgotten that you had cancer. Hope things are going well for you. Things are good, thanks. I've got some 6-month check-up scans on 2/18, as always I'll be freaked out in the days leading up to it. 4 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: It sucks to be right. Sincerely, KoL Right about what? That I told you about my cancer and you are trying to use that as an internet win, when you are accusing me of looking for an internet win? I'd point out how stupid that is, but honestly Jonesy, you never struck me as the sharpest knife in the shed. You were always the guy who was kinda dumb but people kept around to hear you make up stories about how chicks liked your Slingblade body. Anyway, you win, I had cancer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted January 31 4 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Yes, he was more left than right. A lot of people missed this fact. Well, I don't know if he was MORE left than right, but he was a lot closer to the middle than the "far right" that people push. He had a lot of both policies/practices based on today's metrics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swerski's Airbag 2 Posted January 31 Jonesy was right this place is a cesspool now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Swerski's Airbag said: Jonesy was right this place is a cesspool now. A cesspool of AIDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swerski's Airbag 2 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, The Girlfriend said: A cesspool of AIDS. Easy there jonesy don't go using AIDS against me for an Internet win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Swerski's Airbag said: Easy there jonesy don't go using AIDS against me for an Internet win. New phone, who dis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swerski's Airbag 2 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, The Girlfriend said: New phone, who dis? The guy who had sex with your wife last night. POW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 14 minutes ago, Swerski's Airbag said: The guy who had sex with your wife last night. POW! I don’t have a wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swerski's Airbag 2 Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: I don’t have a wife. Well you know what I meant. :damnyou: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted January 31 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Hitler and the Nazis don’t really fit into a “far-right” description- they are put there because of their war on Communism. But their corporatist structure and collectivism were pretty far removed from far-right ideas. But that’s neither here nor there. The problem with this thread, and with @EternalShinyAndChrome’s posts in general, is that like so many conservatives in this country he confuses American progressives with Communists. This is because, as I have tried to tell him numerous times, he doesn’t know the history. Marxists and Communists. Also, you telling people "they don't know history" doesn't mean anything. That's your incorrect opinion and I can tell you that YOU don't know history. Your party is littered with Marxists and the movements you support are run by Marxists (i.e. BLM/Antifa, etc...). Hollywood (mostly liberal) is littered with them. Don't play cope games with us, Tim. You're going to lose 100% of the time, EVERY time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, Swerski's Airbag said: Easy there jonesy don't go using AIDS against me for an Internet win. Jerry’s an embarrassment of wealth when it comes to predicaments, but hey- cancer! WEEEEE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swerski's Airbag 2 Posted February 1 30 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: Jerry’s an embarrassment of wealth when it comes to predicaments, but hey- cancer! WEEEEE! This place sucks and skids sucks. Bye! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,557 Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Swerski's Airbag said: This place sucks and skids sucks. Bye! Dang. You've contributed so much! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
