LIBERATION DAY: US economy now in reverse

[The Girlfriend 208]

13 minutes ago, shadrap said:

per your link:

“The work that was done through the Inflation Reduction Act to support U.S. electric vehicle manufacturing, batteries, critical minerals,” Lovely said.

Biden’s tariffs might be more targeted, but they’re also a lot higher. Rachel Brewster, a professor at Duke Law School, said the Trump administration set tariffs in the 10% to 25% range.

“What they were trying to do is say to the Chinese government, ‘We’re flexing our muscles. We’re hurting you. And so you need to talk to us,’” Brewster said.

But the Biden administration has raised certain tariffs a lot more. Semiconductors and solar cells will face a 50% levy. And tariffs on electric vehicles will rise to 100%.

 

so tariffs are only horrible when Trump does it?

What is so hard to understand here? Yes, Trump imposed the tariffs, but they were too broad. Biden made them more targeted and effective.  

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think anyone is arguing that tariffs can’t be useful. They are arguing that blanket tariffs are.

[Gepetto 1,286]

On 3/4/2025 at 11:37 AM, Gepetto said:

I’ll let everyone know if Star Wars action figure prices increase or not.

New Star Wars figures available for pre-order today. No change in the typical pricing. Leftys were wrong.

[jbycho 580]

7 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

New Star Wars figures available for pre-order today. No change in the typical pricing. Leftys were wrong.

I love the tariffs. Keep em coming. 

Let's get the children out of the market. 

[shadrap 220]

34 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

What is so hard to understand here? Yes, Trump imposed the tariffs, but they were too broad. Biden made them more targeted and effective.  

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think anyone is arguing that tariffs can’t be useful. They are arguing that blanket tariffs are.

well excuse me then.  I thought you have posted many times that Trump is an idiot because of these new rounds of tariffs.

I must have been mistaken.

[shadrap 220]

38 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

What is so hard to understand here? Yes, Trump imposed the tariffs, but they were too broad. Biden made them more targeted and effective.  

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think anyone is arguing that tariffs can’t be useful. They are arguing that blanket tariffs are.

I get it now.  the tariffs have to be "more targeted & effective", like Biden did.

[thegeneral 2,889]

1 hour ago, shadrap said:

appears he wants them more favorable than before.

But he made the worst deals of all time then?

[shadrap 220]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

But he made the worst deals of all time then?

better than the deals before.  now he is saying he will do better deals.  may he will, maybe he won't.  won't know for at least a year so you have plenty of time to pile on.

have at it.  Trump!!!!

caveat:  I'm not a fan of his demeanor or his act sometimes.  I like what he does for us as a nation.  He get's things done.

[jbycho 580]

I love these tariffs. Keep it up Trump!! 

[Horseman 2,353]

1 hour ago, shadrap said:

per your link:

“The work that was done through the Inflation Reduction Act to support U.S. electric vehicle manufacturing, batteries, critical minerals,” Lovely said.

Biden’s tariffs might be more targeted, but they’re also a lot higher. Rachel Brewster, a professor at Duke Law School, said the Trump administration set tariffs in the 10% to 25% range.

“What they were trying to do is say to the Chinese government, ‘We’re flexing our muscles. We’re hurting you. And so you need to talk to us,’” Brewster said.

But the Biden administration has raised certain tariffs a lot more. Semiconductors and solar cells will face a 50% levy. And tariffs on electric vehicles will rise to 100%.

 

so tariffs are only horrible when Trump does it?

When the Tax Foundation says Biden left most of Trump's tariffs and Gutter's Girlfriend says Biden got rid of most of them it's pretty easy to know which is full of chit.   

[thegeneral 2,889]

34 minutes ago, shadrap said:

better than the deals before.  now he is saying he will do better deals.  may he will, maybe he won't.  won't know for at least a year so you have plenty of time to pile on.

have at it.  Trump!!!!

caveat:  I'm not a fan of his demeanor or his act sometimes.  I like what he does for us as a nation.  He get's things done.

People are going to complain, he brings it on himself. Case in point what we are talking about here. He’s shitting his pants about these deals that are the worst ever, he gets all wound up… and they are his deals

It shouldn’t be an issue. People are very sensitive about this, starting with him.

 

[jbycho 580]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

People are going to complain, he brings it on himself. Case in point what we are talking about here. He’s shitting his pants about these deals that are the worst ever, he gets all wound up… and they are his deals

It shouldn’t be an issue. People are very sensitive about this, starting with him.

 

News flash. Your girl Joe Biden is finally out of office Gutterboy. Let uncle Joe shlt his pants all he likes now. 

[The Girlfriend 208]

24 minutes ago, Horseman said:

When the Tax Foundation says Biden left most of Trump's tariffs and Gutter's Girlfriend says Biden got rid of most of them it's pretty easy to know which is full of chit.   

Why am I not surprised you can’t even articulate what I wrote. Your ability to comprehend written words is truly spectacular.

[jbycho 580]

4 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

Why am I not surprised you can’t even articulate what I wrote. Your ability to comprehend written words is truly spectacular.

Ok Rusty, you can take a break now. 

[Horseman 2,353]

8 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

Why am I not surprised you can’t even articulate what I wrote. Your ability to comprehend written words is truly spectacular.

You said something stupid and false when you said "Biden got rid of most of Trump's Tariffs".  EVERYONE understands that.  You're scrambling now after I proved you wrong to forcefit what you said just like your boyfriend always does.  

 

[The Girlfriend 208]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

You said something stupid and false when you said "Biden got rid of most of Trump's Tariffs".  EVERYONE understands that.  You're scrambling now after I proved you wrong to forcefit what you said just like your boyfriend always does.  

 

I see you are going to double down on that.

[jbycho 580]

Just now, The Girlfriend said:

I see you are going to double down on that.

Poor Rusty.

[The Girlfriend 208]

2 hours ago, The Girlfriend said:

Another lie. Biden did not keep all of the prior Trump tariffs. Plus, he tweaked (to get rid of the unintended consequences) of the ones that were kept.

 

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

4 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

 

Bro can't read.  He always does this.

[seafoam1 2,798]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Bro can't read.  He always does this.

"Bro". 

[Mike Hunt 261]

8 hours ago, squistion said:

A YouTube clip of an exchange with one worker from six months ago, yes indeed, that is indicative of how Canadians feel about his remarks from yesterday. 

The 25% Tariff on China part?? Or what?

Trudeau quit before election because he knew he was going to lose. 

[The Real timschochet 6,401]

3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Anyone remember when the Dow dropped half a point last week and Tim and his liberal Boyosexuals were screaming that it was the end of the world and it's Trump's fault?  

And when the Dow actually is up they then say, "The President has nothing to do with the stock market", but absolutely praised Biden when it happened? 

Yeah, me too.  Good times. 

I don’t remember this. What you wrote here is grossly inaccurate. 

[squistion 1,944]

2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

The 25% Tariff on China part?? Or what?

Trudeau quit before election because he knew he was going to lose. 

Irrelevant to Canadians supporting his comments from yesterday.

[Mike Hunt 261]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Irrelevant to Canadians supporting his comments from yesterday.

Trudeau is irrelevant now. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Irrelevant to Canadians supporting his comments from yesterday.

Bring on the tariffs. I'm all for it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,401]

3 hours ago, shadrap said:

per your first sentence, yes it's mainly because of Trump.  The same people complaining now did so when Trump did tariffs in his first term.  OMG disaster!!!  except Biden & team kept them all in place.  go figure.  Imagine getting upset with finding billions of our tax dollars being WASTED.  Everyone should be happy as hell but,   yep, same old=========but TRUUUUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding the rest of your diatribe, you make way too much sense.

 

This is also false. I can’t speak for others but let me be clear about my own reaction: 

1. I sharply criticized Trump when he imposed tariffs last time around. I wrote it would be bad for the economy. I never wrote it would be a disaster because those tariffs, mostly on China, were limited. But I made clear it would be bad and it was.

2. I was very disappointed that Biden maintained the tariffs. I regard it as probably the worst decision of his Presidency, and said so at the time and many other times. It contributed heavily to our inflation, much more so IMO than his spending (which is what conservatives blame for the inflation.) 

3. Trump’s current tariffs are 10 times what he did before, and after April 2 if he keeps his pledge it will be far more than that, it will be the biggest tariffs in history. I believe that these new tariffs, which are unlike any in the past, will be catastrophic for our economy, and the world. I believe it will lead to a recession, possibly another Great Depression, possibly to new wars. I sincerely believe this. My only hope is that Trump is convinced to change his mind or back off quickly. 
 

So no this is a not a case of only complaining because it is Trump. Bernie Sanders is also, like Trump, a long time believer in protectionism. If he were President I would make the same warning. Tariffs are a leftist interference in the free market and the bigger they are the more destructive the result. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is also false. I can’t speak for others but let me be clear about my own reaction: 

1. I sharply criticized 

2. I was very disappointed

3. Trump!!! 
 

So no this is a not a case of only complaining because it is.

Yeah. You have been making your case about these last points for years. We all know. 

Now what are you going to do? Please let it be something I can't say on this site. 

[The Real timschochet 6,401]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Yeah. You have been making your case about these last points for years. We all know. 

Now what are you going to do? Please let it be something I can't say on this site. 

Any time you want to actually take issue with a point I’ve made, and explain why I am incorrect, you’re welcome to do so. Not once in your dozens of posts every day have you ever demonstrated an ability to offer a thoughtful opinion on any subject, so I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to do so. Still anything is possible. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Any time you want to actually take issue with a point I’ve made, and explain why I am incorrect, you’re welcome to do so. Not once in your dozens of posts every day have you ever demonstrated an ability to offer a thoughtful opinion on any subject, so I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to do so. Still anything is possible. 

What difference will it make in your poor focking hiring illegals for slave wages world?

None. So I don't care.

You are a literal piece of crap in this country. I wish I knew who you were for real. I would turn your traitorous ass in in a second. I'm really skilled at IT, but I don't have the desire to come after you for breaking the law at this time because you are such small potatoes. But keep it up and find out. I will contact the authorities of the US about your practices.  

[squistion 1,944]

24 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

Trudeau is irrelevant now. 

Canadians don't think so, as shown for their overwhelming approval of his comments yesterday for standing up to Trump's bullying. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

Just now, squistion said:

Canadians don't think so, as shown for their overwhelming approval of his comments yesterday for standing up to Trump's bullying. 

Canada have been irrelevant since this country began. 

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

Trump spooked after a 1k djia drop caves and pauses auto tariffs.  What a püssy.

[shadrap 220]

11 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is also false. I can’t speak for others but let me be clear about my own reaction: 

1. I sharply criticized Trump when he imposed tariffs last time around. I wrote it would be bad for the economy. I never wrote it would be a disaster because those tariffs, mostly on China, were limited. But I made clear it would be bad and it was.

2. I was very disappointed that Biden maintained the tariffs. I regard it as probably the worst decision of his Presidency, and said so at the time and many other times. It contributed heavily to our inflation, much more so IMO than his spending (which is what conservatives blame for the inflation.) 

3. Trump’s current tariffs are 10 times what he did before, and after April 2 if he keeps his pledge it will be far more than that, it will be the biggest tariffs in history. I believe that these new tariffs, which are unlike any in the past, will be catastrophic for our economy, and the world. I believe it will lead to a recession, possibly another Great Depression, possibly to new wars. I sincerely believe this. My only hope is that Trump is convinced to change his mind or back off quickly. 
 

So no this is a not a case of only complaining because it is Trump. Bernie Sanders is also, like Trump, a long time believer in protectionism. If he were President I would make the same warning. Tariffs are a leftist interference in the free market and the bigger they are the more destructive the result. 

unlike most you did criticize Trump & Biden.

[squistion 1,944]

https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/1897397441587978541 (video clip at lilnk)

WOW! Moments ago, Alberta, Canada Premier Danielle Smith just completely turned the argument around on President Trump, calling out his misinformation.

“The Problem at our border appears to be drugs coming up from the US and into Canada — cocaine or crystal meth. The issue of migrants seems to be exclusively people coming across from the United States into Canada… We are not seeing the same in reverse.”

[seafoam1 2,798]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/1897397441587978541 (video clip at lilnk)

WOW! Moments ago, Alberta, Canada Premier Danielle Smith just completely turned the argument around on President Trump, calling out his misinformation.

“The Problem at our border appears to be drugs coming up from the US and into Canada — cocaine or crystal meth. The issue of migrants seems to be exclusively people coming across from the United States into Canada… We are not seeing the same in reverse.”

Wow!! 

That's about the equivalent of a 5 year old crying at the kiddie table because joey called her a mean name.  

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

Trudeau b1tch slaps Trump

 

Doug Ford does the same

 

[seafoam1 2,798]

Gutterboy thinking any normal person in the US cares about what Canada has to say. 

[thegeneral 2,889]

https://x.com/josheakle/status/1897017855218196743?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ
 

Fox News lady host responds to interview with auto dealer about tariffs, sounds like drunken fool

[seafoam1 2,798]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

https://x.com/josheakle/status/1897017855218196743?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ
 

Fox News lady host responds to interview with auto dealer about tariffs, sounds like drunken fool

She sounds like Pelosi and Biden? 

gutternuts living on Twitter. 

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

https://x.com/josheakle/status/1897017855218196743?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ
 

Fox News lady host responds to interview with auto dealer about tariffs, sounds like drunken fool

Maria Bartoromo is a Trump ball gargler.  These people have no idea how tariffs work.

[Mike Honcho 5,087]

21 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Avocados projected to go up by .49 cents within a few days. Immediate real time effects. 

No matter how many times I try them or guacamole, I just don't like them. I will feel price increases in tequila though.