Maximum Overkill 1,881 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: He gets like 20% of Ukraine. He can fock off then That's probably what's going to happen. But you have to talk to strike a deal. So you want Trump to be a Dik and tell Putin to F off??? How's that going to get a deal done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He gets like 20% of Ukraine. He can fock off then. Thats the deal. It’s not like we are going to be best buddies with them. I’m sure he’d love this deal that is being rumored here. He gets everything he wants. No. He wants assurances that Ukraine won’t join NATO. You know, the reason for all of this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: That's probably what's going to happen. But you have to talk to strike a deal. So you want Trump to be a Dik and tell Putin to F off??? How's that going to get a deal done? Trump’s a raging dlck to all our allies. Canada, EU, etc. How about try it with an enemy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: No. He wants assurances that Ukraine won’t join NATO. You know, the reason for all of this. Who gives a fock what he wants? He thought we wouldn’t do anything and he’d just roll through Ukraine when this started, They have blown up hundreds of thousands of his crap army. Us and EU and mostly Ukraine have put a lot into this and that shitbird is going to walk away with it all if these reports are true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Who gives a fock what he wants? He thought we wouldn’t do anything and he’d just roll through Ukraine when this started, They have blown up hundreds of thousands of his crap army. Us and EU and mostly Ukraine have put a lot into this and that shitbird is going to walk away with it all if these reports are true. Ok. He’s not stopping without it. Fight ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,881 Posted March 10 18 minutes ago, thegeneral said: How about try it with an enemy He's NY. Keep your friends close and enemies closer. He knows that pissing off Putin will only escalate the War. Even you know that, what's that going to achieve? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok. He’s not stopping without it. Fight ! Well that’s what Ukraine is asking our help to do. I say let them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: He's NY. Keep your friends close and enemies closer. He knows that pissing off Putin will only escalate the War. Even you know that, what's that going to achieve? So give Vlad all the land he’s got now and he gives nothing back. Great deal! What’s the deal part of that again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Well that’s what Ukraine is asking our help to do. I say let them. Let them do what, join NATO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Let them do what, join NATO? Keep giving them aide to fight the country that invaded them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 13 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: He's NY. Keep your friends close and enemies closer. He knows that pissing off Putin will only escalate the War. Even you know that, what's that going to achieve? Why hasn’t he escalated the war over the past 3 years? They have gotten worked. It’s not like this has gone swimmingly for those Ruskie focks. They want it to end they actually have to give something up. Anyone can just cut all aide and say good luck. I thought we had a tough guy deal maker in charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 14 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Keep giving them aide to fight the country that invaded them. They are running out of bodies. They draft 50 year old men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They are running out of bodies. They draft 50 year old men. Well I’ll let them determine when they want to stop. Russia is using NK soldiers, is having to offer debt forgiveness to soldiers to get them to join, etc. If anything we could allow Ukraine to be more aggressive instead of being a punching bag. Trump when he wasn’t prez and was running his trap regarding ending the war said something to the effect that if Russia didn’t give up something he’d give Ukraine more weapons than they were currently getting. All I’m saying is it’s not some great feat to simply cut off Ukraine aide and act like this is some amazing deal. It would be a success to come out of this with better assurances that Russia is done with this shet in that region more than just their worthless words. With how Ukraine has performed and with a unified US and EU this should be a realistic goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,549 Posted March 10 The amount of right wing pro-Trumpers spewing pure idiocy on this topic is amazing at this point. I mean on this thread alone some of the stuff @Maximum Overkill, @jbycho and @Hardcore troubadour have written is so moronic that it defies description. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: The amount of right wing pro-Trumpers spewing pure idiocy on this topic is amazing at this point. I mean on this thread alone some of the stuff @Maximum Overkill, @jbycho and @Hardcore troubadour have written is so moronic that it defies description. Such as? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,549 Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Such as? Nearly 100% of your posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,276 Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The amount of right wing pro-Trumpers spewing pure idiocy on this topic is amazing at this point. I mean on this thread alone some of the stuff @Maximum Overkill, @jbycho and @Hardcore troubadour have written is so moronic that it defies description. Constant contradictions. Putin thought Biden was weak but Trump needs to bend the knee to Putin to get a deal. Ukraine is going lose anyway so let's just give up. Not men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Nearly 100% of your posts. Such as? Need you to be more specific. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Constant contradictions. Putin thought Biden was weak but Trump needs to bend the knee to Putin to get a deal. Ukraine is going lose anyway so let's just give up. Not men. “Let’s” as if you’re involved? lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,549 Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Such as? Need you to be more specific. Thanks. I don’t really care what you need. Go back and read through your posts. Nearly everything you write is moronic. It would be fool’s errand for me to dissect them any further. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I don’t really care what you need. Go back and read through your posts. Nearly everything you write is moronic. It would be fool’s errand for me to dissect them any further. You quit. I won. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,549 Posted March 10 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You quit. I won. Thanks. Great you won. Except this isn’t a game. It’s a discussion about how a nation has been invaded, hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children are dying in real time, and we’ve effectively switched our allegiance to side with the architect of this crime against humanity. And in response to some of us trying to point this out, you have made one moronic comment after another in defense of supporting Trump, Putin and Russia. You have taken pride in your lack of knowledge, stupidity and utter lack of morality. But hey you won! Go collect your prize. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Great you won. Except this isn’t a game. It’s a discussion about how a nation has been invaded, hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children are dying in real time, and we’ve effectively switched our allegiance to side with the architect of this crime against humanity. And in response to some of us trying to point this out, you have made one moronic comment after another in defense of supporting Trump, Putin and Russia. You have taken pride in your lack of knowledge, stupidity and utter lack of morality. But hey you won! Go collect your prize. Your use of the word allegiance is just more exaggeration from you due to your lack of a better argument. Typical. And you refuse to cite specifics and throw out generalities because you can’t argue feelings. Facts terrify you. You are no better than the freedom fries people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 750 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: The amount of right wing pro-Trumpers spewing pure idiocy on this topic is amazing at this point. I mean on this thread alone some of the stuff @Maximum Overkill, @jbycho and @Hardcore troubadour have written is so moronic that it defies description. Hey. I'm happy as hell. You lost and it is really showing off your breakdown. This is so fun to watch you suffer in your own mental incompetency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,881 Posted March 10 9 hours ago, thegeneral said: Why hasn’t he escalated the war over the past 3 years? This isn't our War. Are you saying we should put American boots on the ground? If not, what are you saying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,276 Posted March 10 7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Your use of the word allegiance is just more exaggeration from you due to your lack of a better argument. Typical. And you refuse to cite specifics and throw out generalities because you can’t argue feelings. Facts terrify you. You are no better than the freedom fries people. I pointed out 2 examples and instead of discuss those facts you made a flippant comment. You are the exact person that you criticize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 8 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Constant contradictions. Putin thought Biden was weak but Trump needs to bend the knee to Putin to get a deal. Ukraine is going lose anyway so let's just give up. Not men. This is what Gutterboy calls facts. They’re his opinions, but he thinks they are facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,236 Posted March 10 US holds talks with Russia about opening up Nord Stream 2. Trump just likes and admires the guy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,276 Posted March 10 The previously extremely pro-American former President of Romania just called Trump ‘The Butcher of the White House.’ Traian Basescu, ex-President of Romania has just stated that Trump ‘is deliberately weakening Ukraine so that Putin can strike unhindered.’ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,077 Posted March 10 3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: This isn't our War. Are you saying we should put American boots on the ground? If not, what are you saying? The war ends. Russia gets the land they stole, borders are drawn, what’s left of Ukraine is in NATO if we choose. Trump’s mineral deal is fine. How does that take place. We have American companies there digging all that out of the ground. Do we just bounce when Vlad decides that he wants to move in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,250 Posted March 10 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Great you won. Except this isn’t a game. It’s a discussion about how a nation has been invaded, hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children are dying in real time, and we’ve effectively switched our allegiance to side with the architect of this crime against humanity. And in response to some of us trying to point this out, you have made one moronic comment after another in defense of supporting Trump, Putin and Russia. You have taken pride in your lack of knowledge, stupidity and utter lack of morality. But hey you won! Go collect your prize. Anytime you respond to HT or any of those guys, you have already lost, like wrestling with a pig. IAT. YWIA. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,250 Posted March 10 21 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Trump’s latest demands before he will meet with Zelensky: 1. Ukraine must agree to minerals deal (Zelensky already says yes.) 2. Ukraine must agree in advance to give up land to Russia without any guarantees of peace. 3. Zelensky must resign and Ukraine must hold new elections without Zelensky. These demands have not been made publicly but leaked to the Washington Post and New York Times. Publicly Trump has only said that Zelensky needs to show “a change of attitude.” No insistence that Putin, who is committing war crimes on an hourly basis, show a change of attitude. If true the demands bear a striking similarity to those Germany made of Austria in February of 1938, as a way to avoid being occupied. Austria agreed to all of them and then Germany occupied it anyhow two weeks later. Neville Chamberlain thinks this seems fair. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 Trump had nothing to do with the mess that is Ukraine. Libcucks want to act like he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,276 Posted March 10 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump had nothing to do with the mess that is Ukraine. Libcucks want to act like he did. He's the president now. He said he would end the war in 24 hours. FAIL. Now he's cut off Ukraine aid, cut off US intelligence, voted with Russia and North Korea on the UN vote denying that Russia is the aggressor, publicly scolded Zelensky for not being grateful enough, alienated all of EU and threatened to pull out of NATO. THIS mess is all on him and you can't blame Biden for any of this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: He's the president now. He said he would end the war in 24 hours. FAIL. Now he's cut off Ukraine aid, cut off US intelligence, voted with Russia and North Korea on the UN vote denying that Russia is the aggressor, publicly scolded Zelensky for not being grateful enough, alienated all of EU and threatened to pull out of NATO. THIS mess is all on him and you can't blame Biden for any of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,549 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: Anytime you respond to HT or any of those guys, you have already lost, like wrestling with a pig. IAT. YWIA. This is true in a vacuum. But there are other people reading our discussion. When I respond to HT my comments are for them. HT himself is a moron (or at least, for some inexplicable reason, pretending to be one) so I don’t expect him to understand anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,171 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is true in a vacuum. But there are other people reading our discussion. When I respond to HT my comments are for them. HT himself is a moron (or at least, for some inexplicable reason, pretending to be one) so I don’t expect him to understand anything. You’re the one that keeps being wrong. lol. Abortion ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,881 Posted March 10 3 hours ago, thegeneral said: Trump’s mineral deal is fine. How does that take place. We have American companies there digging all that out of the ground. Do we just bounce when Vlad decides that he wants to move in No, we hire them to mine it. GET WITH IT GENERAL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,879 Posted March 10 Why do people ignore dombas and crimeia regions voted overwhelming to join Russia or be independent. A peace deal will have to include those two regions joining Russia and assurances Ukraine won't even try and join nato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,881 Posted March 10 3 hours ago, MDC said: US holds talks with Russia about opening up Nord Stream 2. Trump just likes and admires the guy. That would be great news for America Why are Libtards so scared of Putin? Do you think Zelensky is any better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
