Pete Hegseth texted war plans to a reporter by accident

[RLLD 4,143]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Journalism's ongoing loss of viewership/readership has more to do with how people consume news anymore as much as anything else.

There was no mistake here from the journalist. He did his job.

Of course you don't care about the provisions. Waltz delivered a plethora of excuses in admitting wrong doing but let's handwave them away. 

You should not presume this disparity only helps you.

Consider.....what if the media had not lied about Bidens mental state?  What if instead of serving Democrat leadership propaganda they instead reported honestly?

What may have happened if Harris has a year....or two.....instead of weeks....to make her run for President?

Consider that it might feel good right now, but everything has a consequence.....

[thegeneral 2,880]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You should not presume this disparity only helps you.

Consider.....what if the media had not lied about Bidens mental state?  What if instead of serving Democrat leadership propaganda they instead reported honestly?

What may have happened if Harris has a year....or two.....instead of weeks....to make her run for President?

Consider that it might feel good right now, but everything has a consequence.....

Like I said this is all whataboutism and deflection. 

Did this reporter do anything wrong in this case? Was he being an activist? Who made the errors here?

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You should not presume this disparity only helps you.

Consider.....what if the media had not lied about Bidens mental state?  What if instead of serving Democrat leadership propaganda they instead reported honestly?

What may have happened if Harris has a year....or two.....instead of weeks....to make her run for President?

Consider that it might feel good right now, but everything has a consequence.....

Harris could've had 4 years to run but if they ran just as an incompetent campaign as they did it wouldn't have mattered. 

I like the idea that the media didn't report on negative things of the Biden regime. That's just pure fan fiction from the MAGA mooks. 

Also, this response from you has almost nothing to do with what I said in my post. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Like I said this is all whataboutism and deflection. 

Did this reporter do anything wrong in this case? Was he being an activist? Who made the errors here?

Instead of pretending its "whataboutism" as a deflection against a position I have held now for years, call out repeatedly and just provided an example of how it impacted you.....maybe consider I might have a point here.

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Instead of pretending its "whataboutism" as a deflection against a position I have held now for years, call out repeatedly and just provided an example of how it impacted you.....maybe consider I might have a point here.

I understand you want to talk about this instead of this specific issue, it’s fine.

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Instead of pretending its "whataboutism" as a deflection against a position I have held now for years, call out repeatedly and just provided an example of how it impacted you.....maybe consider I might have a point here.

Just answer a simple question for once. 

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Harris could've had 4 years to run but if they ran just as an incompetent campaign as they did it wouldn't have mattered. 

I like the idea that the media didn't report on negative things of the Biden regime. That's just pure fan fiction from the MAGA mooks. 

Also, this response from you has almost nothing to do with what I said in my post. 

Legacy media, a few of them, insisted it was a perfect campaign.  Could it be true that media was lying to us to serve the Democrat party?  Harris was a bad candidate to be sure, so if the media had not lied for Biden and she had more runway, could it be true that she may have had a little more time to refine and get better? Maybe?

The media actively protected the Democrats, really all of them.   You have Fox on one side running cover for the Republicans and the rest running cover for the Democrats. And then....when either group bothers to really get after something, its purely performative, with no real substance.....meanwhile politicians use the misdirection to be corrupt.

So right now, we have  a Republican in office...two things will be true.  Democrats will grab on to anything and with white-knuckled zeal they will engage in performative outrage and concern to drum up eyes and serve Democrats.....at the same time Fox will run cover for Republicans.

When the next Democrat comes into office, same players....reverse the roles.

We deserve, and should expect, much better. 

 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I understand you want to talk about this instead of this specific issue, it’s fine.

I have made my position clear. You want to protect the journalist, I get that, he is an activist for the liberal causes....  I have no value in protecting any journalist, nor politician.

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Just answer a simple question for once. 

The same question I have already answered multiple times? Or some new tangential thing you want to try?

[thegeneral 2,880]

A journalist was added to a chat where some of the  highest rankling officials running our government were chatting about bombing missions and the like.

He eventually tells the public what is going on. The officials lie about it. He puts them on blast.

The real issue here to discuss isn’t the incompetence and how this happened…it’s the dishonest media.

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I have made my position clear. You want to protect the journalist, I get that, he is an activist for the liberal causes....  I have no value in protecting any journalist, nor politician.

he didn’t do anything wrong. The officials running our government did. 

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, thegeneral said:

he didn’t do anything wrong. The officials running our government did. 

I will do this again, and I hope for the last time........

I AGREE WITH YOU

HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG.  I JUST WISH HE WOULD HAVE PRACTICED PROPER JOURNALISM AND ...SIMPLY FOCKING CONTACTED THEM TO FINISH HIS INVESTIGATION.

Can I now stop repeating the same focking position over and over, or do we have to watch you continue to writhe in defense of your ideological partner?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Attempting to claim that Goldberg is an unbiased journalist is amusing. Calling him a journalist at all is as well. He’s a waterboy for the Democratic Party. Complete bought and paid for hack. 

[thegeneral 2,880]

Just now, RLLD said:

I will do this again, and I hope for the last time........

I AGREE WITH YOU

HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG.  I JUST WISH HE WOULD HAVE PRACTICED PROPER JOURNALISM AND ...SIMPLY FOCKING CONTACTED THEM TO FINISH HIS INVESTIGATION.

Can I now stop repeating the same focking position over and over, or do we have to watch you continue to writhe in defense of your ideological partner?

Thank you. There you go.

It isn’t proper journalism to “simply contact them” he is letting us know these dummies are acting irresponsibly and then let them hang themselves.

 

[thegeneral 2,880]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Attempting to claim that Goldberg is an unbiased journalist is amusing. Calling him a journalist at all is as well. He’s a waterboy for the Democratic Party. Complete bought and paid for hack. 

Good thing these dummies added him to their war chats

Morons.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Thank you. There you go.

It isn’t proper journalism to “simply contact them” he is letting us know these dummies are acting irresponsibly and then let them hang themselves.

 

I did that multiple times, do you really want to pretend I did not?  You do you of course...

It is proper journalism,  you can find this ideal in sources such as the SPJ, Reuters handbook and the BBC editorial guidelines.  Its an expectation that should be met, and if we can get journalists back to this simple act, the later revisions to their work will lower......the initial reporting will increase in accuracy

[MDC 7,112]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I will do this again, and I hope for the last time........

I AGREE WITH YOU

HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG.  I JUST WISH HE WOULD HAVE PRACTICED PROPER JOURNALISM AND ...SIMPLY FOCKING CONTACTED THEM TO FINISH HIS INVESTIGATION.

Can I now stop repeating the same focking position over and over, or do we have to watch you continue to writhe in defense of your ideological partner?

For someone so focused on gov’t accountability, you sure seem more focused on Goldberg and the last administration vs. the actual Signal fockup. 

[thegeneral 2,880]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I did that multiple times, do you really want to pretend I did not?  You do you of course...

It is proper journalism,  you can find this ideal in sources such as the SPJ, Reuters handbook and the BBC editorial guidelines.  Its an expectation that should be met, and if we can get journalists back to this simple act, the later revisions to their work will lower......the initial reporting will increase in accuracy

You agree he did nothing wrong. But you wish he contacted them and we know nothing about this. I disagree. That’s pretty much it.

 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

For someone so focused on gov’t accountability, you sure seem more focused on Goldberg and the last administration vs. the actual Signal fockup. 

There is government accountability.  Now, I could suddenly be all concerned and vocal.....and irate and insistent about firing etc.....but I didnt do that when service members actually died when military leadership made a mistake.....so to now do it would make me rather hypocritical, and then someone such as yourself would use that against me....so I have to stay firm.

Now since my concerns around journalism are far from new and consistent to now pretend I am suddenly all about journalists....is a little farcical.

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, thegeneral said:

You agree he did nothing wrong. But you wish he contacted them and we know nothing about this. I disagree. That’s pretty much it.

 

Correct, This was established more or less from  the first post, by the way.....

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Correct, This was established more or less from  the first post, by the way.....

Then you spent all this time saying this is what’s wrong with journalism calling this action by this dude “activism”.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Then you spent all this time saying this is what’s wrong with journalism calling this action by this dude “activism”.

You asked I answered.... 

[MDC 7,112]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

There is government accountability.  Now, I could suddenly be all concerned and vocal.....and irate and insistent about firing etc.....but I didnt do that when service members actually died when military leadership made a mistake.....so to now do it would make me rather hypocritical, and then someone such as yourself would use that against me....so I have to stay firm.

Now since my concerns around journalism are far from new and consistent to now pretend I am suddenly all about journalists....is a little farcical.

For the millionth time, saying “This was my fault” when we all know it was and facing no consequences for it isn’t accountability. Neither is accusing Goldberg of lying, which was Hegseth’s approach. Neither is blaming the last administration.

You can call it accountability, but you’d be wrong.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

For the millionth time, saying “This was my fault” when we all know it was and facing no consequences for it isn’t accountability. Neither is accusing Goldberg of lying, which was Hegseth’s approach. Neither is blaming the last administration.

You can call it accountability, but you’d be wrong.

I don't care when or why, irrelevant to the act. If you mean to suggest that military leadership relative the Afghanistan admitted nothing to avoid culpability, all you do is reinforce my point.

Leadership.....real leadership.....is admitting.  You might not be familiar with it, if you lean left so this might be something new.

[thegeneral 2,880]

Just now, RLLD said:

You asked I answered.... 

Right and I responded. Looks like we are good to disagree. This is how I would want this to play out removing any names, affiliations etc. I don’t understand the rest of the convo surrounding this. 

The group that focked up here is the Feds. As always if they just shut up it, admit they messed up, it would go much better for them. That is admittedly hard to do.

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Right and I responded. Looks like we are good to disagree. This is how I would want this to play out removing any names, affiliations etc. I don’t understand the rest of the convo surrounding this. 

The group that focked up here is the Feds. As always if they just shut up it, admit they messed up, it would go much better for them. That is admittedly hard to do.

Well, looking back, I lodged my standard concern around media..... you seemed to object, apparently defend this "journalist".  You seem to want me to not criticize the "journalist",  but I do not accept that a journalist is above criticism.

[Engorgeous George 2,117]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

How can it not be about the President? I mean you all seem intent that he should fire someone, how can I exclude the person from the conversation who you insist must act?

Maybe he can fire Omarosa.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Keep in mind that Goldberg told the thoroughly debunked suckers and losers lie. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Maybe he can fire Omarosa.

I think Joe Jonas should be near the top of the list.  Gotta give liberals their pound of flesh.

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Well, looking back, I lodged my standard concern around media..... you seemed to object, apparently defend this "journalist".  You seem to want me to not criticize the "journalist",  but I do not accept that a journalist is above criticism.

In this situation he did what he should have. People attacking him for this reporting is pathetic and is partisan BS. 

There are people saying he should be in jail

[MDC 7,112]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Leadership.....real leadership.....is admitting. 

What’s it called when that horse’s ass Hegseth immediately claims the story is fake?  

[RLLD 4,143]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

In this situation he did what he should have. People attacking him for this reporting is pathetic and is partisan BS. 

There are people saying he should be in jail

People suggesting he should be in jail are as dumb as though wanting Hegseth fired, stupidity is abundant.  Let's not give either set of idiots too much time.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

What’s it called when that horse’s ass Hegseth immediately claims the story is fake?  

You tell me

[MDC 7,112]

Just now, RLLD said:

You tell me

The opposite of leadership and accountability.

[thegeneral 2,880]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

People suggesting he should be in jail are as dumb as though wanting Hegseth fired, stupidity is abundant.  Let's not give either set of idiots too much time.

There needs to be a thorough review of what happened here. How the reporter got added. The Waltz dope in particular sounds like my grandma on her Jitterbug when he described what happened. It was also discovered out of this that he has his Venmo public this guy is appearing to be a train wreck.

These dudes have to all take all the questions, the public criticism, etc. The public should not fall into their camps and call it activism and the like. The vast majority of what is being reported here will be what should occur. It isn’t fake news.  

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, thegeneral said:

There needs to be a thorough review of what happened here. How the reporter got added. The Waltz dope in particular sounds like my grandma on her Jitterbug when he described what happened. It was also discovered out of this that he has his Venmo public this guy is appearing to be a train wreck.

These dudes have to all take all the questions, the public criticism, etc. The public should not fall into their camps and call it activism and the like. The vast majority of what is being reported here will be what should occur. It isn’t fake news.  

Sure, investigate away of course, lets tighten things up

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

The opposite of leadership and accountability.

So, to be clear, when a leader tells us something other than the truth, its the opposite of leadership and accountability, right? You and I have common ground on this point now right? We apply this evenly across the board..........right?

[jbycho 579]

20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So, to be clear, when a leader tells us something other than the truth, its the opposite of leadership and accountability, right? You and I have common ground on this point now right? We apply this evenly across the board..........right?

[Tebok 283]

Trumpanzees are desperate to deflect and minimize this while scrambling to find something Biden or Hillary Clinton did to declare "way worse."

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

I remember when the Biden admin leaked Israels plans to attack Iran. Biden to his credit was very concerned about it. Then it went away