Trump El Salvador deportation thread. Abrego Garcia is coming back to US!!!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,157]

14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

January of 2020 our HHS & NIH already knew about the spread of the epidemic and its origin in China. Trump already had received briefings by then, he chose to believe Xi over his own advisors.

Like Fauci? You just make things up. You’re too stupid to do that. You should stop. 

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25 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like Fauci?

Nancy Mesonnier stated it was a national health emergency in the 2nd or 3rd week of February, she was fired for it. But briefings on the WH started the 1st week of January, I have no idea who but it’s easy took up. Trump trusted Xi instead.

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51 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like Fauci

It was Trump appointee HHS Sec. Alex Azar, January 18, 2020. Prior to that on January 3rd Trump appointee CDC Director Robert Redfield alerted the NSC & IC as to the virus and the warning was included in the President’s Daily Brief (PDB).

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49 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That link includes links to primary sources.

How can it not be related???

The entirety of the evidence of him being MS-13 is based on the report filed by this officer, who was suspended LESS THAN A WEEK after the report was filed.    He was  proven to be dirty (pled guilty), so anyone that doesn’t question his credibility as a result is an idiot.

From your link:

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By itself, of course, this does not settle whether Abrego Garcia was ever in MS-13. But it buttresses the argument that the process designating him a gang member was shoddy and riddled with flaws from the outset. Abrego Garcia and his lawyers have argued that both local law enforcement and the Trump administration rushed to pin this gang affiliation on him based on evidence that was thin to nonexistent, and the suspension of this officer for such a serious offense makes that case more plausible.

The information the officer gave to a sex worker was a different case.

New Republic obfuscates it though, because they are a Leftie hack site.  

[jerryskids 6,672]

BTW, I think team Trump should return the guy, both legally and politically.  Politically, I think it strengthens his case for sending the rest of them, as well as appeases those in the 80/20 who care about the rule of law.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

BTW, I think team Trump should return the guy, both legally and politically.  Politically, I think it strengthens his case for sending the rest of them, as well as appeases those in the 80/20 who care about the rule of law.

It would certainly appease me. Return him, prove he is a gang member (or otherwise undesirable, if he beat up his wife that’s enough for me) and deport him again. I will have no complaint if that happens. 

[TimHauck 2,684]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

From your link:

The information the officer gave to a sex worker was a different case.

New Republic obfuscates it though, because they are a Leftie hack site.  

I don’t care about the commentary added from a leftist site, weird that you do.  I prefer to look at the facts and draw my own conclusions.  And I never suggested it was the same case. 

Fact 1:  The entirety of the available evidence claiming Abrego Garcia is MS-13 is based on a singular report filed by this police officer

Fact 2:  This officer was suspended less than 1 week after the report was filed and later pled guilty

Conclusion: I question the credibility of the officer and in turn what is contained in the report, especially since the report itself is based on hearsay from a criminal informant who alleged that Abrego Garcia was part of a gang that operated in an area he didn’t live in.

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2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yes, and here's the oldest president in history using the Short Steps to AF1.

My post was about Trump praising Xi and pushing forward the lie that Xi had solved Covid.

 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

5 minutes ago, jbycho said:

 Biden Trip

I get it. Biden also rides bikes and can drive. I can’t even remember the origin of this exchange. I think this was in reply to a point about immigration but I’m not sure. Ah yes Tim pointed out that race is the bottom of all this.

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2 hours ago, 5-Points said:

The term "white privilege" exists. There is no inherent privilege in being white in America. 

Perhaps the disparity you're thinking of is cultural or behavioral. But it isn't racial. 

Do the PWT in Appalachia enjoy "white privilege?" If so, how? 

But blacks, as a group, are not disadvantaged. Individually, maybe but that is largely due to personal choices and behavior in 2025 America. It isn't built into the system. 

Poor whites have more in common with poor blacks than they do with rich whites. 

It's not racial. 

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Do poor white trash in Appalachia enjoy "white privilege?" 

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55 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It would certainly appease me. Return him, prove he is a gang member (or otherwise undesirable, if he beat up his wife that’s enough for me) and deport him again. I will have no complaint if that happens. 

They don't have to prove he was a gang member.  He has an order of removal.  The only restriction was sending him where he is now.  They can deport him to any other country and be in compliance even with the terms as they were before he was deported this time.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,157]

What happened with this guy in Tennessee? He got stopped for human trafficking? 

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26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What happened with this guy in Tennessee? He got stopped for human trafficking? 

Yes, and Biden's FBI told them to let him go.  See, it makes them more sympathetic when you ignore much of their crime.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,157]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yes, and Biden's FBI told them to let him go.  See, it makes them more sympathetic when you ignore much of their crime.

So they’re moving on now? Back to tariffs? 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So they’re moving on now? Back to tariffs? 

No, they're still on this one.  They're just ignoring all the indications that this guy is scum and not worth going to bat for.  See all of Hackboys post only focusing on some corrupt cop but ignoring all the other data on this POS.

[jerryskids 6,672]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t care about the commentary added from a leftist site, weird that you do.  I prefer to look at the facts and draw my own conclusions.  And I never suggested it was the same case. 

Fact 1:  The entirety of the available evidence claiming Abrego Garcia is MS-13 is based on a singular report filed by this police officer

Fact 2:  This officer was suspended less than 1 week after the report was filed and later pled guilty

Conclusion: I question the credibility of the officer and in turn what is contained in the report, especially since the report itself is based on hearsay from a criminal informant who alleged that Abrego Garcia was part of a gang that operated in an area he didn’t live in.

Why is it weird when I just said that the hack site obfuscated the relationship between the two.

Speaking of which, glad that you've come around on the fact that there is no relationship between the two events.   

[TimHauck 2,684]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why is it weird when I just said that the hack site obfuscated the relationship between the two.

Speaking of which, glad that you've come around on the fact that there is no relationship between the two events.   

I never said there was.  I said the crime the cop pled guilty to makes him less credible overall.  Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?

[TimHauck 2,684]

29 minutes ago, Strike said:

No, they're still on this one.  They're just ignoring all the indications that this guy is scum and not worth going to bat for.  See all of Hackboys post only focusing on some corrupt cop but ignoring all the other data on this POS.

I don’t really care that much about this guy.  I care about respecting our legal system.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

.  I care about respecting our legal system.

Really? Because you didn't care when Liberals were going after Trump for BS nonsense and throwing out false accusations. 

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White is the new white. 

[jbycho 740]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Really? Because you didn't care when Liberals were going after Trump for BS nonsense and throwing out false accusations. 

Oh, well that's different. Liberals hate Trump. So it's all ok. 

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1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

Bump for @The Real timschochet

Do poor white trash in Appalachia enjoy "white privilege?" 

I don't blame you. You'd just look silly trying to say poor white trash enjoy any kind of privilege. 

[TimHauck 2,684]

New decision from conservative appellate judge about sums it up:

“It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf

[Maximum Overkill 1,876]

51 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Oh, well that's different. Liberals hate Trump. So it's all ok. 

Isn't it funny how all in a sudden they care about respecting the legal system?  

They didn't give 2 craps when going after Trump and Biden's political opponents. 

[jbycho 740]

27 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Isn't it funny how all in a sudden they care about respecting the legal system?  

They didn't give 2 craps when going after Trump and Biden's political opponents. 

They are busy worrying about the homeless white people having privilege over black people.

Some entitled white ex marine vet with PTSD sleeping in the streets of San Francisco is way more lucky than poor Maxine Waters. 

That's some serious white privilege right there. 

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34 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

New decision from conservative appellate judge about sums it up:

“It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf

Except he wasn't a resident of this country. 

Also, whether or not he was a gang banger isn't important. He was a wife beater. Fock him. 

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5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yes, and here's the oldest president in history using the Short Steps to AF1.

My post was about Trump praising Xi and pushing forward the lie that Xi had solved Covid.

so your link showed Trump walking up stairs to an airplane.

so what is wrong with that?  what am I missing?

[jbycho 740]

5 minutes ago, shadrap said:

so your link showed Trump walking up stairs to an airplane.

so what is wrong with that?  what am I missing?

Trump walking normally up stairs is the same as Biden falling on his face and wandering aimlessly every other day.

Liberals literally have nothing else. 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

10 minutes ago, shadrap said:

so your link showed Trump walking up stairs to an airplane.

so what is wrong with that?  what am I missing?

It's the "short steps" that Biden was mocked for using because it suggested he was an old man who could not make the full walk up.

[jbycho 740]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's the "short steps" that Biden was mocked for using because it suggested he was an old man who could not make the full walk up.

He walked up them like any normal person would. Why are you reaching so hard on this? Show me where he's "dragging his leg" and falling down. 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

2 minutes ago, jbycho said:

He walked up them like any normal person would. Why are you reaching so hard on this? Show me where he's "dragging his leg" and falling down. 

Tim posted that Garcia was (I believe) being treated differently because he was pulled over without a warrant and all the rest that's happened to him.

The response was essentially, oh yeah I bet you thought saying Covid came from China was racist.

And I posted a response pointing to Trump lapping up Xi's lies as gospel truth over his own advisors.

Then you posted a video of Biden falling down.

Then I posted a video of Trump using the short steps, like Biden.

I do agree from the bolded on down it's outright ridiculous.

[jbycho 740]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim posted that Garcia was (I believe) being treated differently because he was pulled over without a warrant and all the rest that's happened to him.

The response was essentially, oh yeah I bet you thought saying Covid came from China was racist.

And I posted a response pointing to Trump lapping up Xi's lies as gospel truth over his own advisors.

Then you posted a video of Biden falling down.

Then I posted a video of Trump using the short steps, like Biden.

I do agree from the bolded on down it's outright ridiculous.

Biden fell on his face. 

[shadrap 226]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

New decision from conservative appellate judge about sums it up:

“It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf

link to you OUTRAGED over all the illegals let in by Biden killing & raping women over the last four years.  

this should be good

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

Just now, jbycho said:

Biden fell on his face.

I get it. And Trump believes a foreign enemy dictator over his own experts. Give me the guy that falls down. Are we done on this absurd exchange?

[jbycho 740]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I get it. And Trump believes a foreign enemy dictator over his own experts. Give me the guy that falls down. Are we done on this absurd exchange?

WTF? 

Keep reading your sources on x man. That ought to tell you what:s going on. 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

Just now, jbycho said:

Keep reading your sources on x man. That ought to tell you what:s going on. 

I quoted Trump.

[jbycho 740]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I quoted Trump.

Sure you did. 

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim posted that Garcia was (I believe) being treated differently because he was pulled over without a warrant and all the rest that's happened to him.

The response was essentially, oh yeah I bet you thought saying Covid came from China was racist.

And I posted a response pointing to Trump lapping up Xi's lies as gospel truth over his own advisors.

Then you posted a video of Biden falling down.

Then I posted a video of Trump using the short steps, like Biden.

I do agree from the bolded on down it's outright ridiculous.

What you claim was "lapping up", I might classify as "repeating." 

Some of you still haven't figured Trump out. Somebody summed it up pretty well. 

"The left takes Trump literally but not seriously. The right takes Trump seriously but not literally."

You guys need to pay less attention to the words and more attention to the outcome. You might save yourself some undue stress. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006 440]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

Sure you did.

Trump said this.  

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

3 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Bump for @The Real timschochet

Do poor white trash in Appalachia enjoy "white privilege?" 

Sorry been busy. 
 

Yes of course they do. Meaning if a poor white from Appalachia enters a department store in the big city, he or she is unlikely to be constantly shadowed by an employee. He or she will not be harassed by police. And I could give you many other examples- in fact here is a list of 20 (my earlier link I’ve discovered wasn’t accessible to you:) 

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/culture/a32752175/white-privilege-everyday-examples/
 

That doesn’t mean that a poor Appalachian white doesn’t face many challenges that most of us, white or black, do not. But these are not based on skin color.