seafoam1 2,906 Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM Is the CW a court witness, or a cooperating witness? I've been behind on following on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM 25 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Is the CW a court witness, or a cooperating witness? I've been behind on following on this. CW means common wealth in MA which means prosecutor.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM Hopefully today is the day for a verdict! Free Karen Read! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,906 Posted yesterday at 10:11 AM 25 minutes ago, artista928 said: Hopefully today is the day for a verdict! Free Karen Read! Ok. Prediction time. IF Read is found not guilty, where does this investigation turn to? Do the feds step in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 564 Posted yesterday at 10:24 AM 12 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Ok. Prediction time. IF Read is found not guilty, where does this investigation turn to? Do the feds step in? It goes nowhere. CW does no further investigation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 12:55 PM 2 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Ok. Prediction time. IF Read is found not guilty, where does this investigation turn to? Do the feds step in? Feds already investigated last year. They had hired Arcca back in pt 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM We'll see what happens with JOK fam civil lawsuits again̈st her, especially if found ng. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 01:59 PM Bev says court ends at 4:00 today. I watch a ton of trials & 5:00 is the earliest I've seen. Usually they'll maybe check in ŵhere they are. If they are close, I've seen one case go to 10 pm with a pizza dinner. Never seen a judge so restrictive & interfering especially with the defense in this case! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM Seeing thèse type of comments on̈ Twitter scare me. I'm thinking there is at least 1 idiot on the jury.. "It’s not a difficult case at all. OUI manslaughter hit and run." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 02:34 PM A lawyer who had tĥe rare opportunity to be on a jury said there were a couple whose attention span was short in his trial & these people would go with she was there, drunk, he was hit, killed..mentality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 03:12 PM Jury questions suggest they are heading to only the oui charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 03:28 PM Oh & big surprise jury confused on the second count on the form. Same last year that led to a mistrial! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted yesterday at 03:57 PM Looks like they are only hung up on the OUI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,341 Posted yesterday at 04:49 PM Judge will probably give her 2 years in prison for driving while intoxicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 05:18 PM Somèone from the inside reporteð seeing the foreman shooting a smile at KR parents & Yanetti telling her parents something that made them cry. After lunch we should have a verdict! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,341 Posted yesterday at 05:34 PM Some kind of update is happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,341 Posted yesterday at 05:42 PM This judge sucks so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 05:44 PM Ugh! Jurors question, ŵhat happens if we aquit on 2 charges but are hung on one. Bev said not going to tell them hypotheticals. This may be a repeat of trial one with count 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 05:45 PM 1 minute ago, Gepetto said: This judge sucks so bad. She is anti defense. She's in bed with the corrupt DA. He's up for re election next year. Kick his ass out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,374 Posted yesterday at 05:57 PM If I was on the jury no way I nail her for a driving violation after what the CW put her through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,341 Posted yesterday at 05:58 PM It’s beyond difficult to get a not guilty verdict especially when the prosecutor and judge are willing to do whatever it takes to get a win. If you are charged with a crime even if innocent, you’re usually getting convicted anyway. Karen Read has great lawyers who put on an excellent defense. I think they should have spent a good deal of time explaining what reasonable doubt means in a general sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 06:03 PM 2 minutes ago, Gepetto said: It’s beyond difficult to get a not guilty verdict especially when the prosecutor and judge are willing to do whatever it takes to get a win. If you are charged with a crime even if innocent, you’re usually getting convicted anyway. Karen Read has great layers who put on an excellent defense. I think they should have spent a good deal of time explaining what reasonable doubt means in a general sense. Jackson explained reasonable doubt very clearly more than once. The way the form is set up screams choose a guilty verdict. I mean it should be simple..put ng next to each count & simplify the damn thing. Bev is corrupt af! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,341 Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM 6 minutes ago, artista928 said: Jackson explained reasonable doubt very clearly more than once. The way the form is set up screams choose a guilty verdict. I mean it should be simple..put ng next to each count & simplify the damn thing. Bev is corrupt af! OK good. I missed him explaining that. I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM Tĥe blood test was retroactive. And the range was big. Reasonable doubt there too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 06:41 PM They better not hang on the dui! How do we know what her bac was at the time of the event?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted yesterday at 06:51 PM 70 min left for delib today if Bev really means out at 4pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted yesterday at 07:07 PM The jury is hung on an oui as a lesser charge in a murder case and the judge wants to force a mistrial because of a dispute on the misdemeanor charge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted 20 hours ago 4 hours ago, HellToupee said: The jury is hung on an oui as a lesser charge in a murder case and the judge wants to force a mistrial because of a dispute on the misdemeanor charge Sad huh. Not answering their question.. hopefully the jury is sus about it. They sound smart. I can't see them leaving tomorrow not done. Thursday is the fed holiday so no court, Friday not positive court will resume. She'll have to read the Allan charge, I think it's called, where you said the jury back at least once if they say hung to encourage them to keep working on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,341 Posted 12 hours ago 13 hours ago, artista928 said: They better not hang on the dui! How do we know what her bac was at the time of the event?? Karen Read's blood alcohol content (BAC) was reported to be 0.093% Read's blood was taken at 9:08 a.m. https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/karen-read-live-stream-today-brian-higgins/#:~:text=Justin Rice%2C who was an,estimation could have been inaccurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,374 Posted 1 hour ago Note at the bottom of the "Karen Read Trial Watch" feed I've got on in the background says everyone has been called back to court.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted 1 hour ago The jury had a verdict. They pull everyone back and then they say they don’t have a verdict and the one the passed in isn’t being open Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted 1 hour ago https://x.com/factsdontlie10/status/1935404176798007565?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ It’s 2:27pm and we are back on the record. All the parties in court. The jury knocked on the door during lunch and said they had a verdict. Then they knocked again and said they didn’t have a verdict. Allegedly. A verdict slip was put into envelope and sealed “for the record” with the word “jury” written on it. Unclear if that slip is filled out / signed by the foreman. I’m confused. What just happened. https://x.com/doctorturtleboy/status/1935403535832608808?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ This is insane. The jury told the court officer that they have a verdict, then told them they don’t have a verdict. The original verdict was put in a sealed envelope that was just given to Cannone. This is unreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted 1 hour ago A tweet from Turtleboy If I were to guess (and this is just a guess) I think that the most likely thing that happened is that the jury gave the Court Officer the verdict, and then panicked that they may have filled it out wrong. That seems like a much more likely scenario than one of the jurors saying, "psych, I changed my mind to guilty, let's deliberate some more." If this is the case it means they've made up their mind and the verdict will likely come today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted 1 hour ago A verdict is in again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,374 Posted 1 hour ago Chiron just changed again to "Jury has reached a verdict." So don't go anywhere folks....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted 1 hour ago Praying! Free Karen Read! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artista928 21 Posted 1 hour ago Aiden Keàrney, turtle boy, is inside giving play by play on what he's seeing. Hugs already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted 1 hour ago Do we think this ends on a cliffhanger and there is a season 3 or hopefully the season finale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,890 Posted 1 hour ago NOT GUILTY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites