NYC Mayor Race

[jerryskids 6,737]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Here’s a dead guy being carried on a bike, with a child running next to them.

YEAH BUT WHERE’S THE VIDEO OF HIM BEING SHOT! 

Just admit that no evidence will be good enough for you, @jerryskids

https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1934098544077750520

 

 

Is that what Al Jazeera says he was doing?

Israel has literally set up their own aid distribution because the Hamas-affiliated UNRWA was giving all of the aid to Hamas.  You know this, right?  Might that explain why all of the young men are running from warning shots?

Also, why would they do that when they can just murder everyone at the UNRWA drops?  You know, because they are evil$#@!

[TimHauck 2,746]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Is that what Al Jazeera says he was doing?

Israel has literally set up their own aid distribution because the Hamas-affiliated UNRWA was giving all of the aid to Hamas.  You know this, right?  Might that explain why all of the young men are running from warning shots?

Also, why would they do that when they can just murder everyone at the UNRWA drops?  You know, because they are evil$#@!

FFS, stop comparing to Hamas

[TimHauck 2,746]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Also, why would they do that when they can just murder everyone at the UNRWA drops?  You know, because they are evil$#@!

I never said they’re evil, and again I’ve specially said I don’t think they are committing genocide.  They’re definitely the good guys in this war, but they are committing war crimes.  

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

From what I’ve been able to learn about Mamdami: 

1. He’s not a Communist, nowhere close. Like Bernie and AOC, he’s a Democratic Socialist. The two ideologies are very opposed, not similar at all. DS believes in free speech, Democracy, and our current system of free enterprise (though with much more government involvement.) Communists don’t. 
 

2. While Mamdami was at one time in favor of the original set of “defund police” ideas (which was ALWAYS falsely titled; the ideas actually involved a nuanced reallocation of police funds and duties based on recommendations from police groups and advocacy groups, NOT a defunding) he has since changed his position, correctly realizing that whatever good was originally intended, the word “defund” is political poison. 

3. Most of Mamdami’s economic ideas are irrelevant to any time he spends as mayor because he does not have the power to enact them. He is not a lawgiver. Like all other mayors his effectiveness will be based on his level of efficiency in keeping existing structures running. In this regard it should be noted that the man historians regard as the greatest mayor in New York history, Fiorello LaGuardia, was also a Democratic Socialist. This is nothing new.

4. Mamdami is a centrist Muslim, like most Muslims living in this country. His wife does not cover. He is not an Islamist, nor does he share the extreme Muslim beliefs of Islamist clerics. He is a feminist and pro LBTQ+. 

5. Mamdami is not anti-Semitic. Nor is he anti-Israel. He is anti-Netanyahu and highly critical of Israel’s current government. Mamdami does not support Hamas. 
 

Once these facts are accepted, we can then have an intelligent conversation about what kind of mayor this guy will be. Until then we can’t. 

[jerryskids 6,737]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

FFS, stop comparing to Hamas

I did no such thing.  The second paragraph was about Israel; I've called them "evil$#@!" several times in this discussion. 

You are so rattled trying to find a video of actual murder that you can't even read.  Carry on.   

Let's get back to discussing the soon to be socialist mayor and the imminent demise of NYC.   

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Let's get back to discussing the soon to be socialist mayor and the imminent demise of NYC.   

It’s not even accurate to call him a socialist in that he’s not in favor of replacing capitalism. He wants to modify it, impose more restrictions. But again, he won’t be able to do this in his role as mayor so it seems irrelevant. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

He wants to increase property taxes in white neighborhoods. 

[jerryskids 6,737]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

From what I’ve been able to learn about Mamdami: 

1. He’s not a Communist, nowhere close. Like Bernie and AOC, he’s a Democratic Socialist. The two ideologies are very opposed, not similar at all. DS believes in free speech, Democracy, and our current system of free enterprise (though with much more government involvement.) Communists don’t. 
 

2. While Mamdami was at one time in favor of the original set of “defund police” ideas (which was ALWAYS falsely titled; the ideas actually involved a nuanced reallocation of police funds and duties based on recommendations from police groups and advocacy groups, NOT a defunding) he has since changed his position, correctly realizing that whatever good was originally intended, the word “defund” is political poison. 

3. Most of Mamdami’s economic ideas are irrelevant to any time he spends as mayor because he does not have the power to enact them. He is not a lawgiver. Like all other mayors his effectiveness will be based on his level of efficiency in keeping existing structures running. In this regard it should be noted that the man historians regard as the greatest mayor in New York history, Fiorello LaGuardia, was also a Democratic Socialist. This is nothing new.

4. Mamdami is a centrist Muslim, like most Muslims living in this country. His wife does not cover. He is not an Islamist, nor does he share the extreme Muslim beliefs of Islamist clerics. He is a feminist and pro LBTQ+. 

5. Mamdami is not anti-Semitic. Nor is he anti-Israel. He is anti-Netanyahu and highly critical of Israel’s current government. Mamdami does not support Hamas. 
 

Once these facts are accepted, we can then have an intelligent conversation about what kind of mayor this guy will be. Until then we can’t. 

They aren't facts.  He supports government-run grocery stores.  That's communism.  Fact. He does not believe that Israel should exist as a Jewish state.  Fact.

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He wants to increase property taxes in white neighborhoods. 

You of course mean neighborhoods with wealthier incomes right? But in any case he wouldn’t have that power as mayor. 

[TimHauck 2,746]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

He does not believe that Israel should exist as a Jewish state.  Fact.

Pretty sure this is not true.

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

They aren't facts.  He supports government-run grocery stores.  That's communism.  Fact. He does not believe that Israel should exist as a Jewish state.  Fact.

You’re wrong on both counts. A government run grocery store, while IMO a terrible idea, is not Communism any more than public education is Communism. It would be closer to Communism if he also made all private grocery stores illegal. Do you see the difference? It’s a huge difference but somehow conservatives never seem to see it. 
 

I have an interview, already linked in this thread, in which he states he recognizes the state of Israel and it’s right to exist, so your second assertion is simply false. 

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15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

From what I’ve been able to learn about Mamdami: 

1. He’s not a Communist, nowhere close. Like Bernie and AOC, he’s a Democratic Socialist. The two ideologies are very opposed, not similar at all. DS believes in free speech, Democracy, and our current system of free enterprise (though with much more government involvement.) Communists don’t. 
 

2. While Mamdami was at one time in favor of the original set of “defund police” ideas (which was ALWAYS falsely titled; the ideas actually involved a nuanced reallocation of police funds and duties based on recommendations from police groups and advocacy groups, NOT a defunding) he has since changed his position, correctly realizing that whatever good was originally intended, the word “defund” is political poison. 

3. Most of Mamdami’s economic ideas are irrelevant to any time he spends as mayor because he does not have the power to enact them. He is not a lawgiver. Like all other mayors his effectiveness will be based on his level of efficiency in keeping existing structures running. In this regard it should be noted that the man historians regard as the greatest mayor in New York history, Fiorello LaGuardia, was also a Democratic Socialist. This is nothing new.

4. Mamdami is a centrist Muslim, like most Muslims living in this country. His wife does not cover. He is not an Islamist, nor does he share the extreme Muslim beliefs of Islamist clerics. He is a feminist and pro LBTQ+. 

5. Mamdami is not anti-Semitic. Nor is he anti-Israel. He is anti-Netanyahu and highly critical of Israel’s current government. Mamdami does not support Hamas. 
 

Once these facts are accepted, we can then have an intelligent conversation about what kind of mayor this guy will be. Until then we can’t. 

Well, they aren't facts, that's your problem.

"Democratic Socialist" is just code for "Marxist/Communist".  Everyone knows that.  You're only fooling the liberal sheep.

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You two need to go on a date or something. You both slap fight with each other in every thread and it goes on forever. Exchange phone numbers for God's sake.

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I did no such thing.  The second paragraph was about Israel; I've called them "evil$#@!" several times in this discussion. 

You are so rattled trying to find a video of actual murder that you can't even read.  Carry on.   

Let's get back to discussing the soon to be socialist mayor and the imminent demise of NYC.   

 

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Pretty sure this is not true.

 

[TimHauck 2,746]

Oh, @jerryskids really emphasizing the “as a Jewish state” there I guess.  I don't have a problem with this answer.

https://x.com/jacobkornbluh/status/1930716893423239610

 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

Right now we have a system where we give poor people money, in the form of SNAP (previously food stamps) to purchase groceries. And we also have special grocery stores, privately run but under heavy government restriction and regulation, that sell items to these same people. Mamdami wishes to replace these stores with government run stores. He would never have the power to do this as mayor and it is not in my judgment a good or efficient idea. But it’s also not a new idea and it has no relationship to Communism, as it wouldn’t affect the private stores already in place. Under a Communist dictatorship all private ownership would end and be replaced with government run entities. 

[TimHauck 2,746]

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

From what I’ve been able to learn about Mamdami: 

1. He’s not a Communist, nowhere close. Like Bernie and AOC, he’s a Democratic Socialist. The two ideologies are very opposed, not similar at all. DS believes in free speech, Democracy, and our current system of free enterprise (though with much more government involvement.) Communists don’t. 
 

2. While Mamdami was at one time in favor of the original set of “defund police” ideas (which was ALWAYS falsely titled; the ideas actually involved a nuanced reallocation of police funds and duties based on recommendations from police groups and advocacy groups, NOT a defunding) he has since changed his position, correctly realizing that whatever good was originally intended, the word “defund” is political poison. 

3. Most of Mamdami’s economic ideas are irrelevant to any time he spends as mayor because he does not have the power to enact them. He is not a lawgiver. Like all other mayors his effectiveness will be based on his level of efficiency in keeping existing structures running. In this regard it should be noted that the man historians regard as the greatest mayor in New York history, Fiorello LaGuardia, was also a Democratic Socialist. This is nothing new.

4. Mamdami is a centrist Muslim, like most Muslims living in this country. His wife does not cover. He is not an Islamist, nor does he share the extreme Muslim beliefs of Islamist clerics. He is a feminist and pro LBTQ+. 

5. Mamdami is not anti-Semitic. Nor is he anti-Israel. He is anti-Netanyahu and highly critical of Israel’s current government. Mamdami does not support Hamas. 
 

Once these facts are accepted, we can then have an intelligent conversation about what kind of mayor this guy will be. Until then we can’t. 

I’d agree with this for the most part but I think it’s fair to call him anti-Israel.  That of course does not make him anti-Semitic

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Well, they aren't facts, that's your problem.

"Democratic Socialist" is just code for "Marxist/Communist".  Everyone knows that.  You're only fooling the liberal sheep.

You’ve made this false argument before. I’ve offered you books and articles as to why it’s not true. I’ve tried to show you example after example of how Democratic Socialists have worked to defeat Communism. I’ve explained how, at the height of the Cold War, our greatest allies against Communism were the Democratic Socialists in West Berlin, and later in Poland (such as Lech Walesa). 
 

If you insist on rejecting facts I can’t help you. 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’d agree with this for the most part but I think it’s fair to call him anti-Israel.  That of course does not make him anti-Semitic

If he believes in Israel’s right to exist and a 2 state solution, I don’t see how he can be labeled anti-Israel. 

[BrahmaBulls 688]

34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

From what I’ve been able to learn about Mamdami: 

1. He’s not a Communist, nowhere close. Like Bernie and AOC, he’s a Democratic Socialist. The two ideologies are very opposed, not similar at all. DS believes in free speech, Democracy, and our current system of free enterprise (though with much more government involvement.) Communists don’t. 
 

2. While Mamdami was at one time in favor of the original set of “defund police” ideas (which was ALWAYS falsely titled; the ideas actually involved a nuanced reallocation of police funds and duties based on recommendations from police groups and advocacy groups, NOT a defunding) he has since changed his position, correctly realizing that whatever good was originally intended, the word “defund” is political poison. 

3. Most of Mamdami’s economic ideas are irrelevant to any time he spends as mayor because he does not have the power to enact them. He is not a lawgiver. Like all other mayors his effectiveness will be based on his level of efficiency in keeping existing structures running. In this regard it should be noted that the man historians regard as the greatest mayor in New York history, Fiorello LaGuardia, was also a Democratic Socialist. This is nothing new.

4. Mamdami is a centrist Muslim, like most Muslims living in this country. His wife does not cover. He is not an Islamist, nor does he share the extreme Muslim beliefs of Islamist clerics. He is a feminist and pro LBTQ+. 

5. Mamdami is not anti-Semitic. Nor is he anti-Israel. He is anti-Netanyahu and highly critical of Israel’s current government. Mamdami does not support Hamas. 
 

Once these facts are accepted, we can then have an intelligent conversation about what kind of mayor this guy will be. Until then we can’t. 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

Hey dude you’re welcome to try and contradict any of this. So far nobody has been able to. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You of course mean neighborhoods with wealthier incomes right? But in any case he wouldn’t have that power as mayor. 

Property taxes are a local matter. Try harder. And he said white. 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Property taxes are a local matter. Try harder. And he said white. 

Link to him saying white? 
And no per my understanding all taxes in the state of New York, including city taxes, have to be approved by the state legislature. I got that from Forbes: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2025/06/27/will-mamdanis-proposed-millionaire-tax-save-or-sink-new-york-city/

if you have contradictory info please present it. NY isn’t my state so I have to rely on what I read. 

[BrahmaBulls 688]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hey dude you’re welcome to try and contradict any of this. So far nobody has been able to. 

You spent 4 minutes googling the guy and declared you have all the facts.  I've seen you do this BS a million times before.  The whole forum knows you're a liar and a waste of time.

[TimHauck 2,746]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hey dude you’re welcome to try and contradict any of this. So far nobody has been able to. 

Don’t mind @BrahmaBulls, he’s just a troll that likes to name call and will put you on ignore if you prove him wrong.

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

You spent 4 minutes googling the guy and declared you have all the facts.  I've seen you do this BS a million times before.  The whole forum knows you're a liar and a waste of time.

I didn’t even know who he was until a week ago. I spent the last three days reading various interviews with him. I’ve already linked some here. The 5 points in my post were based on falsehoods I’ve read several times in this thread. Again if you think I’m wrong about any of it you’re welcome to provide evidence to the contrary. 

[BrahmaBulls 688]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Can you point to a single woman or child in that video?  Odd that young, dark-clad men are the only people going for aid.   

Also, I hear gunfire, and I see people running.  What I don't see is people being shot.

Hack is a troll posting false information.  Why do any of you engage him?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link to him saying white? 
And no per my understanding all taxes in the state of New York, including city taxes, have to be approved by the state legislature. I got that from Forbes: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2025/06/27/will-mamdanis-proposed-millionaire-tax-save-or-sink-new-york-city/

if you have contradictory info please present it. NY isn’t my state so I have to rely on what I read. 

I just knew you were going to find the first article you could and post it without reading it. That whole article is about income tax. He wants to tax white neighborhoods property tax at a higher rate. Thats what I said. Is that your best effort? 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I just knew you were going to find the first article you could and post it without reading it. That whole article is about income tax. He wants to tax white neighborhoods property tax at a higher rate. Thats what I said. Is that your best effort? 

First off the reason I posted the article is because it clearly states that in order for such a tax to happen, the state legislature of New York needs to pass it and the governor would need to sign it. So it’s not a “local issue” as you claimed and the mayor has no power to enact it on his own. That was the third of my 5 points. Are you now willing to acknowledge this? 
 

Second, you keep using  the term “white neighborhoods” and you claim that Mamdami did as well. The article doesn’t use that term and I can’t find Mamdami ever uses it. The term suggests racism. If you’re the one using it then YOU are the one being racist. But if you have an example of Mamdami using it please provide it. Second time I’ve asked. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off the reason I posted the article is because it clearly states that in order for such a tax to happen, the state legislature of New York needs to pass it and the governor would need to sign it. So it’s not a “local issue” as you claimed and the mayor has no power to enact it on his own. That was the third of my 5 points. Are you now willing to acknowledge this? 
 

Second, you keep using  the term “white neighborhoods” and you claim that Mamdami did as well. The article doesn’t use that term and I can’t find Mamdami ever uses it. The term suggests racism. If you’re the one using it then YOU are the one being racist. But if you have an example of Mamdami using it please provide it. Second time I’ve asked. 

He said whiter neighborhoods. It’s on his website. Keep your head up your ass. DGAF. 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

He said whiter neighborhoods. It’s on his website. Keep your head up your ass. DGAF. 

Can you link that for me please? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

When Trump says he wants to do something he can’t he’s an authoritarian. When this guy does it’s no big deal. Real Tim. He puts the flip in flip flop. 

[TimHauck 2,746]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link to him saying white? 
And no per my understanding all taxes in the state of New York, including city taxes, have to be approved by the state legislature. I got that from Forbes: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2025/06/27/will-mamdanis-proposed-millionaire-tax-save-or-sink-new-york-city/

if you have contradictory info please present it. NY isn’t my state so I have to rely on what I read. 

He said whiter on his website.  Which is funny that conservatives on x have called it a “bombshell.”

And he doesn’t want to tax them more than others.  He want to remove the cap on assessed values which means they currently pay less.

But it is a fact that wealthier neighborhoods are whiter.  People complaining about that I’m sure are the same ones that love saying “13% of the population commits 51% of violent crime!” (Which is not racist to say that statement individually)

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Can you link that for me please? 

Yeah. His campaign website. Www.Muslimsocialistracist.org 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Can you link that for me please? 

Never mind I found it. He says he wants to  tax “richer and whiter neighborhoods”. 

That’s unfortunate. He never should have said “whiter”; it borders on racism. Just another thing that would cause me not to support this guy in a sane world. 

My point stands that his tax ideas are irrelevant because as mayor he has no power to enact them.  

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He said whiter on his website.  Which is funny that conservatives on x have called it a “bombshell.”

And he doesn’t want to tax them more than others.  He want to remove the cap on assessed values which means they currently pay less.

But it is a fact that wealthier neighborhoods are whiter.  People complaining about that I’m sure are the same ones that love saying “13% of the population commits 51% of violent crime!” (Which is not racist to say that statement individually)

Agree with all this but he shouldn’t have said “whiter”. It’s not quite racist but it’s borderline. 

[The Real timschochet 6,677]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When Trump says he wants to do something he can’t he’s an authoritarian. When this guy does it’s no big deal. Real Tim. He puts the flip in flip flop. 

To the contrary: I have made the point several times that Trump is a wannabe authoritarian but NOT one because he doesn’t have legislative power. This is basically the same point I’m making here (though Mamdami is not authoritarian so far as I can tell.) 

On the other hand, the Supreme Court seems to be working hard at increasing the powers Trump DOES ) have…

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Agree with all this but he shouldn’t have said “whiter”. It’s not quite racist but it’s borderline. 

Just say it. It's not hurting anyone's feelings. But it does show off what a hypocrite you are. 

[BrahmaBulls 688]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Never mind I found it. He says he wants to  tax “richer and whiter neighborhoods”. 

That’s unfortunate. He never should have said “whiter”; it borders on racism. Just another thing that would cause me not to support this guy in a sane world. 

My point stands that his tax ideas are irrelevant because as mayor he has no power to enact them.  

It's the definition of racist.  Why is it so hard for you to say?  You're wrong about this guy yet again.   

[TimHauck 2,746]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

It's the definition of racist.  Why is it so hard for you to say?  You're wrong about this guy yet again.   

So it’s not true that the wealthier neighborhoods are whiter?

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