The Real timschochet 7,222 Posted 20 hours ago Hamas agrees to most of Trump’s peace plan: https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/hamas-calling-for-further-negotiations-says-it-agrees-to-full-hostage-release/ This seems like excellent news. As always it’s best not to get too confident but it sure sounds good on paper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Hamas agrees to most of Trump’s peace plan: https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/hamas-calling-for-further-negotiations-says-it-agrees-to-full-hostage-release/ This seems like excellent news. As always it’s best not to get too confident but it sure sounds good on paper. So Mr. Art O’Deal will at some point get it through his thick skull that Hamas won’t accept all of his conditions & he will have to choose between his Arab partners who hold his leash & Netanyahu. He’s always winding up in these situations where he overleverages himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 17 hours ago IMO the Qatar attack was the end of it. My guess is Trump will listen to the Arabs who’ve invested heavily in him. Netanyahu is just a political chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,873 Posted 17 hours ago Should have taken the Biden route I guess. Or maybe Obama? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,207 Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Hamas agrees to most of Trump’s peace plan: https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/hamas-calling-for-further-negotiations-says-it-agrees-to-full-hostage-release/ This seems like excellent news. As always it’s best not to get too confident but it sure sounds good on paper. Great news and good job to Don if it holds. Now we wait to see if Israel actually stops bombing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Should have taken the Biden route I guess. Or maybe Obama? Actually this is one place Obama & Netanyahu (& maybe soon Trump) merge. They both tolerated Hamas’ existence as the government in Gaza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,873 Posted 15 hours ago I’m against this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 12 hours ago The White House of the US has posted a statement by Hamas on its account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,643 Posted 6 hours ago 13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Hamas agrees to most of Trump’s peace plan: https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/hamas-calling-for-further-negotiations-says-it-agrees-to-full-hostage-release/ This seems like excellent news. As always it’s best not to get too confident but it sure sounds good on paper. Be honest. If Trump wasn’t involved in this you wouldn’t be able to be any more confident. “As always”… c’mon dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 4 hours ago 16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: As always it’s best not to get too confident but it sure sounds good on paper. It looks like Hamas has agreed to a totally separate peace deal than the one Netanyahu agreed to. Negotiations will take place in Cairo so nothing has been agreed to. It also appears the US has given Qatar a NATO-like defense guarantee. Netanyahu really screwed up when he attacked Qatar. It feels like the sands have shifted on Hamas’ favor now as Qatar backs Hamas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 4 hours ago The IDF will be withdrawing. Wow. Just a reminder, just this week Netanyahu was forced to personally read an apology letter to Qatar from the White House while sitting next to Trump. The worm has certainly turned. A free plane will certainly buy a lot apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 4 hours ago 16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Hamas agrees to most of Trump’s peace plan: Hamas has not agreed to disarm or remove itself from government. This Hamas statement was posted on the *White House* account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 3 hours ago Trump has issued a demand that Israel stop bombing Gaza, as apparently they are violating the cease fire. Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,207 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Trump has issued a demand that Israel stop bombing Gaza, as apparently they are violating the cease fire. Man. Shocker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,323 Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Trump has issued a demand that Israel stop bombing Gaza, as apparently they are violating the cease fire. Man. Israel has no choice but to come correct with Trump. They need us. If Trump cuts off arms sales then they're done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Israel has no choice but to come correct with Trump. They need us. If Trump cuts off arms sales then they're done. Of course, but he’s chosen now to do it. Qatar yanks Trump’s chain, Trump yanks Israel’s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,207 Posted 3 hours ago Jerryskids wonders why Israel would want to kill journalists for reasons other than that they’re Hamas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,323 Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Jerryskids wonders why Israel would want to kill journalists for reasons other than that they’re Hamas Flimsy source at best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,988 Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Jerryskids wonders why Israel would want to kill journalists for reasons other than that they’re Hamas Imagine hating your own people this much. Also, this post is certainly worth killing someone over. I'm surprised Israel hasn't killed him, his wife, his kids, his parents, and his cousins already. Also also, Hamas hasn't accepted anything, other than Israel to stop killing them. Hamas is stalling. "Starting talks?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,722 Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The IDF will be withdrawing. Wow. Just a reminder, just this week Netanyahu was forced to personally read an apology letter to Qatar from the White House while sitting next to Trump. The worm has certainly turned. A free plane will certainly buy a lot apparently. MAGAs should start preparing to change their stance on Israel to fit Daddy’s latest whim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,873 Posted 2 hours ago Oh look, shitlibs think it’s bad. Orangey bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,207 Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, MDC said: MAGAs should start preparing to change their stance on Israel to fit Daddy’s latest whim. Many already have, which I think is part of the reason this is happening. It’s mostly only old farts still hanging onto the idea that Israel can do wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,207 Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Imagine hating your own people this much. Also, this post is certainly worth killing someone over. I'm surprised Israel hasn't killed him, his wife, his kids, his parents, and his cousins already. Also also, Hamas hasn't accepted anything, other than Israel to stop killing them. Hamas is stalling. "Starting talks?" Being against actions of the Israeli government isn’t anti-Semitic, Jerry. Also it’s cute that you seem to think that since they didn’t kill this one guy, that they must not be targeting journalists for their journalism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,722 Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Many already have, which I think is part of the reason this is happening. It’s mostly only old farts still hanging onto the idea that Israel can do wrong It’s funny to see MAGAs abandon their principles in real time to fit Daddy’s needs. Funny in a sad clown sort of way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh look, shitlibs think it’s bad. Orangey bad. Eh so I’m trying to figure this out. There was a cease fire agreement in January, hostages were exchanged, Trump opposed it. Israel violated the hostage / cease fire deal all over the place & committed war crimes with our weapons, & made us attack Iran. Now Trump leaps to his patrons’ defense, & now Hamas has not provided a timeline for handing over hostages, Hamas remains as an entity, & Israel has to withdraw. In the interim several countries - including our allies, who used to listen to us - recognized Palestine as a state. And the US has completely done a heal turn towards the Arabs. And the WHITE HOUSE is posting statements by Hamas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 533 Posted 2 hours ago 33 minutes ago, MDC said: MAGAs should start preparing to change their stance on Israel to fit Daddy’s latest whim. This is starting to look like Trump’s Afghanistan deal. It must & shall be defended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,222 Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: Be honest. If Trump wasn’t involved in this you wouldn’t be able to be any more confident. “As always”… c’mon dude. Um no. My reason for skepticism is that I have tried to pretty carefully follow the Israeli- Palestinian conflict my entire life. As far as Donald Trump goes, while I haven’t been happy with his actions and statements about this issue in the past, and overall I think as you know that he is a horrible President, I have no current criticisms of his conduct here. In fact I support him here and think he is doing a very good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites