July Mock 2025

[WhiteWonder 2,786]

PPR scoring (unlike the June Mock). 

https://www.fftoday.com/mock/25_july.html

[ICEMAN 52]

RB’s are tougher to predict this preseason. There are numerous teams in the July Mock that are pinning their seasons on dart throw RB’s. The certainty at the position is almost nonexistent after round 4. It gets rough real fast.

ICEMAN

[weepaws 3,215]

33 minutes ago, ICEMAN said:

RB’s are tougher to predict this preseason. There are numerous teams in the July Mock that are pinning their seasons on dart throw RB’s. The certainty at the position is almost nonexistent after round 4. It gets rough real fast.

ICEMAN

Agreed, there is depth, but not a lot of rb one can count on to produce weekly after the early Rbs go.   

[WhiteWonder 2,786]

34 minutes ago, ICEMAN said:

RB’s are tougher to predict this preseason. There are numerous teams in the July Mock that are pinning their seasons on dart throw RB’s. The certainty at the position is almost nonexistent after round 4. It gets rough real fast.

ICEMAN

I see a few teams that would probably struggle at the position on paper post draft, but most did a pretty good job, I think.  I would have likely said you did the best job of drafting both top end RBs as well as solid, established RB depth had it not been for the Mixon news that came out mid mock. Even with that, I think you are in decent shape. To still have CMC backed up by Guerendo, David Montgomery, and Rhamondre who I think will still have some useful games until Henderson takes over. With Mixon, it might be the best RB room top to bottom. Without, you still have enough to survive. 

[polecatt 479]

10 hours ago, ICEMAN said:

RB’s are tougher to predict this preseason. There are numerous teams in the July Mock that are pinning their seasons on dart throw RB’s. The certainty at the position is almost nonexistent after round 4. It gets rough real fast.

ICEMAN

I don't know. RB seems to have made a bit of a comeback. Tougher to predict? Probably, but I think a lot of just has to do with more depth.

Last season, seems the reliable RBs didn't last past the mid 2nd round. That was as bad as I've ever seen it.

I don't think the days of old with 2 RBs in the first two rounds will ever come back, but I think we may be seeing a bit of a resurgence of the feature RB. RB by committee seems to be slowing

[Ray_T 756]

On 7/31/2025 at 8:14 PM, polecatt said:

I don't know. RB seems to have made a bit of a comeback. Tougher to predict? Probably, but I think a lot of just has to do with more depth.

Last season, seems the reliable RBs didn't last past the mid 2nd round. That was as bad as I've ever seen it.

I don't think the days of old with 2 RBs in the first two rounds will ever come back, but I think we may be seeing a bit of a resurgence of the feature RB. RB by committee seems to be slowing

These things always go in cycles.

for the most part, I've felt RBBC is for teams who dont have a player good enough to be a bell cow RB.    so some teams will get one RB who can run and one who can catch passes and pair them up to try to get the best of both worlds and make it up in the aggregate.    sometimes it works.  sometimes... not so much.

for me the drive to go that way stemmed from teams who didnt want to invest in the O line so they draft a running QB and hope his dynamic run ability forces the defense to keep a spy which opens things up in other areas.

problem is... if that running QB cant throw, it wont work.     So I think more teams have realized you cant cut corners on the O line and now that those teams have the beginnings of a good O line, might as well draft a RB who can take advantage of it.     so now we are going back the way we came.    I dont know that it will ever be like it was.   There are more NFL teams and roughly the same number of college teams feeding those teams.  so inevitably there will not be enough talent to feed all those teams in terms of building an O line.   So some teams will have to go with other strategies.   They will have no choice.

I'm sad that I wasnt able to participate in the MOck this year.   I was in work hell and literally couldnt do it.  but hopefully I can get back in next year.    Nice job drafting guys.

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14 hours ago, Ray_T said:

These things always go in cycles.

for the most part, I've felt RBBC is for teams who dont have a player good enough to be a bell cow RB.    so some teams will get one RB who can run and one who can catch passes and pair them up to try to get the best of both worlds and make it up in the aggregate.    sometimes it works.  sometimes... not so much.

for me the drive to go that way stemmed from teams who didnt want to invest in the O line so they draft a running QB and hope his dynamic run ability forces the defense to keep a spy which opens things up in other areas.

problem is... if that running QB cant throw, it wont work.     So I think more teams have realized you cant cut corners on the O line and now that those teams have the beginnings of a good O line, might as well draft a RB who can take advantage of it.     so now we are going back the way we came.    I dont know that it will ever be like it was.   There are more NFL teams and roughly the same number of college teams feeding those teams.  so inevitably there will not be enough talent to feed all those teams in terms of building an O line.   So some teams will have to go with other strategies.   They will have no choice.

I'm sad that I wasnt able to participate in the MOck this year.   I was in work hell and literally couldnt do it.  but hopefully I can get back in next year.    Nice job drafting guys.

Yeah, it's a cycle of talent, money, and gameplans. It's like that with each position to a degree, but I think RB has been especially volatile. The position has been extremely devalued in two of those aspects, money and gameplans. It's only natural it's gonna lack in the 3rd area. RBs were mostly living on rookie contracts. They were cheap, so it was easy to stock up on them. Pair that with the gameplanning. The primary objective, taking handoffs and running with the ball, was devalued just as much. However, their secondary jobs, receiving and pass blocking, were more valuable than ever. This led to RB by committee with specialists in these various areas. 

Fast forward a few years, the RB talent is thin at the top. Defenses are designed to stop the pass and are thin against the run. That means it's the perfect time to bring back the high volume, workhorse RB, like Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry, to run through the soft defenses. So the dominant workhorse RB is making a comeback, and will surely be rewarded with big money contracts...

The cycle continues...

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2 hours ago, polecatt said:

Yeah, it's a cycle of talent, money, and gameplans. It's like that with each position to a degree, but I think RB has been especially volatile. The position has been extremely devalued in two of those aspects, money and gameplans. It's only natural it's gonna lack in the 3rd area. RBs were mostly living on rookie contracts. They were cheap, so it was easy to stock up on them. Pair that with the gameplanning. The primary objective, taking handoffs and running with the ball, was devalued just as much. However, their secondary jobs, receiving and pass blocking, were more valuable than ever. This led to RB by committee with specialists in these various areas. 

Fast forward a few years, the RB talent is thin at the top. Defenses are designed to stop the pass and are thin against the run. That means it's the perfect time to bring back the high volume, workhorse RB, like Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry, to run through the soft defenses. So the dominant workhorse RB is making a comeback, and will surely be rewarded with big money contracts...

The cycle continues...

agreed.   and I think the difference between the top end RB and the mid range will widen some.

 

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On 7/31/2025 at 9:02 AM, ICEMAN said:

RB’s are tougher to predict this preseason. There are numerous teams in the July Mock that are pinning their seasons on dart throw RB’s. The certainty at the position is almost nonexistent after round 4. It gets rough real fast.

ICEMAN

 

25 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

agreed.   and I think the difference between the top end RB and the mid range will widen some.

 

I think that was the ICEMANS point.  

[Ray_T 756]

18 hours ago, weepaws said:

 

I think that was the ICEMANS point.  

yeah, and I was in agreement.

[Showboat 256]

I would have swung for the fences with CMC and Henry at the turn.  

[JagFan 165]

1 hour ago, Showboat said:

I would have swung for the fences with CMC and Henry at the turn.  

I would’ve too and been ecstatic about it.

[WhiteWonder 2,786]

I got a whole lot happier about my June and July mock WR rooms with the chargers signing Keenan Allen. McConkey be damned, Herbert and Allen have great rapport and I can see an easy path to WR3 production.