Illegal migrant truck driver in deadly Florida crash failed English, road sign tests got license in Liberal State

[jonnyutah 541]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

Stop playing dumb

Commercial DL

AI overview... Does Usha Vance have a CDL?

Yes. Usha Vance has long enjoyed driving commercial vehicles. She typically drives the kids to school in a dumptruck, but occasionally will drive her Peterbilt sleeper cab. It was given to her in CA after ten rounds of "guess how many fingers I am holding up." If the instructor is holding up fingers non english speaking applicants are allowed to answer with a thumbs up signal instead of saying the number aloud.  

 

[HellToupee 2,214]

41 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

If you can't read road signs...permanent or temporary (detour, construction, accident etc) YOU HAVE ZERO BUSINESS DRIVING AN 80,000LB VEHICLE. To even bring this up..safety vs production.....is completely asinine. 

It’s common sense 

[Meglamaniac 792]

12 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

AI overview... Does Usha Vance have a CDL?

Yes. Usha Vance has long enjoyed driving commercial vehicles. She typically drives the kids to school in a dumptruck, but occasionally will drive her Peterbilt sleeper cab. It was given to her in CA after ten rounds of "guess how many fingers I am holding up." If the instructor is holding up fingers non english speaking applicants are allowed to answer with a thumbs up signal instead of saying the number aloud.  

 

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[Strike 6,017]

43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Most of them are much more qualified at trucking than you are at political opinions. Just saying

Let me guess.  Your Indian truck driver friend that you play chess with in the park told you that.

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

25 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Stop playing dumb

Commercial DL

I honestly had no idea, but thank you.

Are you suggesting illiterate Americans should be allowed to have standard DLs?

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27 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Stop playing dumb

Commercial DL

to be fair, and I have a Class A (which is what we call it here in California), I read CDL and first thought of California Driver's License, just cause thats where all these are being issued

took me a min for Commercial to click

Saints isn't playing dumb, he probably really didn't think of it

 

[HellToupee 2,214]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I honestly had no idea, but thank you.

Are you suggesting illiterate Americans should be allowed to have standard DLs?

JFC the stupid games you play

[Nomad99 813]

41 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m only going to agree with you but that applies to Mayflower Americans too. I live in Louisiana, which might have the lowest literacy rate in the country & has a load of French speakers. I think coincidentally we also have the near highest accident rate & auto insurance rates. I mean, I’d be glad if there was a literacy test for everything, except voting, from drivers licenses to the presidency.

The ability to read & write English has been a DOT regulation for many many years. I'm not sure how people are getting around it...but yes ANYONE not satisfying those requirements shouldn't be driving. 

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

JFC the stupid games you play

I’m really trying to agree with Megla, I just don’t understand why he’s limiting it to CDLs.

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

Just now, Nomad99 said:

The ability to read & write English has been a DOT regulation for many many years. I'm not sure how people are getting around it...but yes ANYONE not satisfying those requirements shouldn't be driving. 

Thanks, I agree. Wouldn’t the employer know this too, or the guy’s boss at least?

[Nomad99 813]

56 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Most of them are much more qualified at trucking than you are at political opinions. Just saying

Once again, speaking of that which you know not.. . 

[Nomad99 813]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thanks, I agree. Wouldn’t the employer know this too, or the guy’s boss at least?

They should.....but let's not forget cheap labor often pushes doing the right thing to the side.

[Strike 6,017]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thanks, I agree. Wouldn’t the employer know this too, or the guy’s boss at least?

All the employer cares about is if you have the proper documentation.   States like CA are ignoring the laws/regs and issuing DL's they shouldn't but because of state reciprocation those DL's are valid nationwide.  Florida is suing CA for this practice.

[Meglamaniac 792]

13 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m really trying to agree with Megla, I just don’t understand why he’s limiting it to CDLs.

Really? Did you forget the topic of the thread did you forget your response to this post by MO

 

The Indian immigrant truck driver accused of killing three people in a crash when he made an illegal U-turn across a Florida highway badly flunked English fluency and road sign tests following the smash-up, the US Department of Transportation revealed.

Harjinder Singh answered just two of 12 questions correctly when being tested for English language proficiency by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration after the April 12 crash.

And when asked to read highway signs and their meanings, Singh could only identify one out of four signs shown to him, the US Department of Transportation (DOT) announced Tuesday.

 

 

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

4 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Really? Did you forget the topic of the thread did you forget your response to this post by MO
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The Indian immigrant truck driver accused of killing three people in a crash when he made an illegal U-turn across a Florida highway badly flunked English fluency and road sign tests following the smash-up, the US Department of Transportation revealed.

Harjinder Singh answered just two of 12 questions correctly when being tested for English language proficiency by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration after the April 12 crash.

And when asked to read highway signs and their meanings, Singh could only identify one out of four signs shown to him, the US Department of Transportation (DOT) announced Tuesday.

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Things are a little screwed up. I merely tried to agree with you & suggested it should apply to all licenses & all Americans (or others). I just think it’s odd to focus on this guy being an Indian or Indian-American when at least in my city in a red state there are loads of incompetent drivers many of whom I’d guess are certainly illiterate.

[Meglamaniac 792]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Things are a little screwed up. I merely tried to agree with you & suggested it should apply to all licenses & all Americans (or others). I just think it’s odd to focus on this guy being an Indian or Indian-American when at least in my city in a red state there are loads of incompetent drivers many of whom I’d guess are certainly illiterate.

Then why say this in response to MO

"This could also describe the Second Lady & the Vice President’s in laws."

Doesn't seem to follow the logic you just posted, but again, you already knew this

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

Just now, Meglamaniac said:

Then why say this in response to MO

"This could also describe the Second Lady & the Vice President’s in laws."

Doesn't seem to follow the logic you just posted, but again, you already knew this

Well it does IMO. I’m saying the man’s ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Also (forgive me for not checking) but is he an American? 

[Meglamaniac 792]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well it does IMO. I’m saying the man’s ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Also (forgive me for not checking) but is he an American? 

OK

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well it does IMO. I’m saying the man’s ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Also (forgive me for not checking) but is he an American? 

If only there was a way to look things up if a person is ignorant about them.  I think I'll invent something and put it on the Internet.   I think I'll call it "Fool gle".

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

If only there was a way to look things up if a person is ignorant about them.  I think I'll invent something and put it on the Internet.   I think I'll call it "Fool gle".

It would help if the gentleman in the OP would provide a link with his post. But I don’t mind checking.

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It would help if the gentleman in the OP would provide a link with his post. But I don’t mind checking.

While you're at it look up the guy who barreled down I70 in Denver a couple years ago and killed a number of people.   While you and Tim play political games people are needlessly dying.

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

While you're at it look up the guy who barreled down I70 in Denver a couple years ago and killed a number of people.  

So Singh was here on a work permit, so he was legal but not a citizen.

It is truly sad what you mention in Denver. I have a family friend whose daughter knew 4 college aged girls killed on US 90 a couple years ago. Tragic, awful stuff.

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

So Singh was here on a work permit, so he was legal but not a citizen.

It is truly sad what you mention in Denver. I have a family friend whose daughter knew 4 college aged girls killed on US 90 a couple years ago. Tragic, awful stuff.

Tragic, awful stuff happens.   And we can't always prevent that.  But THIS is preventable.  But keep looking for ways to justify these incompetent people driving on licenses that don't meet the regs.  That's what people like you and Tim do.

[Meglamaniac 792]

9 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It would help if the gentleman in the OP would provide a link with his post. But I don’t mind checking.

While you're at it type in CDL

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Tragic, awful stuff happens.   And we can't always prevent that.  But THIS is preventable.  But keep looking for ways to justify these incompetent people driving on licenses that don't meet the regs.  

Eh like I said if someone can’t pass a driving test because they can’t read then they should fail the test & be denied a DL of any kind. I’m thinking this probably happens.

Did his inability to read actually cause the wreck?

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

While you're at it type in CDL

Ha ok thanks, it’s in the lexicon now.

[Strike 6,017]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

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Did his inability to read actually cause tge wreck?

Like clockwork. 

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Like clockwork

Whew ok I’ll look it up again.

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

On 8/21/2025 at 5:36 PM, Maximum Overkill said:

when he made an illegal U-turn across a Florida highway

Strike - or anyone - does this require actual literacy to know not to do this?

[Meglamaniac 792]

7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Strike - or anyone - does this require actual literacy to know not to do this?

Really?

I'm out

[HellToupee 2,214]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Strike - or anyone - does this require actual literacy to know not to do this?

He attempted a U-turn from the right lane on the Florida turnpike using a cut through for emergency vehicles in moving traffic. He had to be full blown retarded to attempt it . Showed zero remorse after on the side of the road. I don’t think you grasp what this guy did

[HellToupee 2,214]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

Really?

I'm out

You can’t make it up. 

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

7 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

He attempted a U-turn from the right lane on the Florida turnpike using a cut through for emergency vehicles in moving traffic. He had to be full blown retarded to attempt it . Showed zero remorse after on the side of the road. I don’t think you grasp what this guy did

I actually agree with everything you just said, & all of that is 100% retarded, wrong, criminally negligent in Lahore, Goa & Calcutta, & every other place in the world, & has absolute nothing to do with his inability to read.

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34 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I actually agree with everything you just said, & all of that is 100% retarded, wrong, criminally negligent in Lahore, Goa & Calcutta, & every other place in the world, & has absolute nothing to do with his inability to read.

His inability to read should have prevented him from getting a license.  If he doesn't have a license he isn't driving the truck and therefore doesn't attempt a boneheaded move.  And the result is no accident and Americans aren't dead.  Do you not understand chain of events and WHY we have laws and regulations?  Never mind.  I'm out too 

[Nomad99 813]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

All the employer cares about is if you have the proper documentation.   States like CA are ignoring the laws/regs and issuing DL's they shouldn't but because of state reciprocation those DL's are valid nationwide.  Florida is suing CA for this practice.

This is why CDL's should be a federal license....it's already governed by the feds.....they shouldn't be issued or managed by the state. 

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

40 minutes ago, Strike said:

His inability to read should have prevented him from getting a license.  If he doesn't have a license he isn't driving the truck and therefore doesn't attempt a boneheaded move.  And the result is no accident and Americans aren't dead.  Do you not understand chain of events and WHY we have laws and regulations?  Never mind.  I'm out too 

I do, but again this would affect many Americans too & it didn’t directly cause the accident. It’s not butterfly effect stuff but it’s somewhere in between.

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6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I do, but again this would affect many Americans too & it didn’t directly cause the accident. It’s not butterfly effect stuff but it’s somewhere in between.

No.  People are dead and you're defending the indefensible.  Disgusting.

[Nomad99 813]

11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I do, but again this would affect many Americans too & it didn’t directly cause the accident. It’s not butterfly effect stuff but it’s somewhere in between.

How did it not directly cause the accident? It was an illegal u-turn.

[dogcows 1,065]

3 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

This is how braindead liberals are.

Look an awful white guy did something! Therefore we need to allow illegal immigrants to come in and do the same things! 

I didn’t say anything of the sort. I just posted a fact. You just told on yourself…

[jonnyutah 541]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Strike - or anyone - does this require actual literacy to know not to do this?

"For official or emergency vehicles only" is what the sign said.

So yes. You need to be able to read that the little turnaround isnt for you to use. If he could read that, he wouldnt have tried to use the turnaround in the median. 

But regardless, how is a CDL driver that cant speak or read english supposed to verify his cargo? What if the load has 5 pallets of hazmat and he isnt authorized to haul hazmat?

What if he is hauling ORMd packaging and he gets in an accident and those cans get ruptured? What will he tell the spill crew?