My Thoughts

[Gypsybrat 131]

Sitting here drinking my coffee and have some time before I need to prepare for my day, so thought I would let you all know where I stand.

 

Couple years ago, I enforced the draft timer rule with Vudu, and skipped his pick.  Mayhem followed.   Long story short, he quit the league because of that.

fast forward to the next year, and Taco Breath doesn't show on time for the draft.   Based on the previous year, I put on the kid gloves and and gave Taco time to get here and make his pick.  Dream Wreckers quit because I didn't enforce the league rules.

  damned if I do.....damned if I don't.

 

Now this year, we have Mmmm...Beer not happy with the rule of having to cut down to 25 before the draft.  He wants to cut down from 30 minus total draft picks.  We have a discussion, and after threatening to quit the league, he makes the cuts with the knowledge we will have a discussion/vote on the rule for next year.

Now MtSkiBum does the exact same thing, but does not make the cuts prior to the draft and threatens to quit.

 

I can call for punitive action to be taken towards MtSkiBum, and more than likely lose him as an owner, which I would hate because I like him as a person and owner.  

I can let it slide, and piss the hell out of Mmmm...Beer (which is a totally justified reaction) and jeopardize losing him as an owner, which I would hate because I like him as a person and owner too.

  damned if I do.....damned if I don't.

 

Honestly, I am not sure what to do.  But what I am sure of, is this kind of  happening every year is seriously wearing thin with me. 

So WHAT am I gonna do?   I am doing nothing.  I am not making another decision/determination about this league.  You all need to have a discussion on how you want this league run.  Either by the books with set penalties for infractions or by the seat of our pants and deal with anything as it happens.

Once you all figure that out, you can tell me.  What you all decide will be how I run this league.......if there is a league to run after this.

 

 

 

[Bier Meister 1,749]

thank you. that was well stated.

 

i think we need to stay as close to the rules as possible. exceptions for more serious life events. maybe a warning or two before anything punitive? 

[Bigtraine 32]

Man, Gypsybrat, I feel you.  I tried to send you a message last week just saying thanks and that I appreciate the work you do (your inbox here is full FYI I believe).  I quit commissioning my home dynasty league of 10+ years this season because people can just be exhausting, and this league is worse than that one was.  I don't know what it is about this league but there is more unnecessary drama over the years from theoretically mostly grown, adult people than I have seen in any other leagues.  

I love this league, I am an OG member, I want this league to keep going.  I wonder if the random drama that keeps coming up is because people are in it that don't want to be.  Man, if that is the case, then just leave.  I dont want anyone to leave but I dont want grumpy people mailing it in either because they think they need to.  

Specific to the dropping players, as long as I can remember its always been drop to 25 (or less if you had more than 5 draft picks).  Is this a big deal either way?  This is the hill to die on?  Focking just drop the players and then pick them back up in FA because nobody else is going to want them.  Or let him leave it and not have a fit either way.  These players are not important to fantasy football and the outcomes this year.  IMO.  So personally I dont care which way it is resolved, I will back whatever Gypsy wants to do, and if someone wants to freak out about it, I just dont give any sh!ts about that personally.

My suggestion for next year.  Have a roster cut down date in place.  Explicitly make sure everyone knows what the roster number expectation is.  And have the commish drop players off the teams that dont meet it (based on KTC or some other neutral valuation site).  But all that can be figured out in the offseason  (if people actually show up during the offseason, which is getting more and more rare).

 

[Bigtraine 32]

And also, probably better to get ahead of this now and have Gypsy be explicit about what the expectations and penalties (if any) there will be for not setting a valid lineup (IE having someone starting that doesn't play that week).  I've done it before, it happens - could be laziness/negligence, thinking you hit submit and didn't, setting a lineup on Friday before heading out of town/cell range and an injury happens, even a guy that gets ruled out during warmups or something.  

When that happens, because it will, lets set expectations now about what the penalties will be.  Is the first time a warning, etc...  

[Bier Meister 1,749]

28 minutes ago, Bigtraine said:

Man, Gypsybrat, I feel you.  I tried to send you a message last week just saying thanks and that I appreciate the work you do (your inbox here is full FYI I believe).  I quit commissioning my home dynasty league of 10+ years this season because people can just be exhausting, and this league is worse than that one was.  I don't know what it is about this league but there is more unnecessary drama over the years from theoretically mostly grown, adult people than I have seen in any other leagues.  

I love this league, I am an OG member, I want this league to keep going.  I wonder if the random drama that keeps coming up is because people are in it that don't want to be.  Man, if that is the case, then just leave.  I dont want anyone to leave but I dont want grumpy people mailing it in either because they think they need to.  

Specific to the dropping players, as long as I can remember its always been drop to 25 (or less if you had more than 5 draft picks).  Is this a big deal either way?  This is the hill to die on?  Focking just drop the players and then pick them back up in FA because nobody else is going to want them.  Or let him leave it and not have a fit either way.  These players are not important to fantasy football and the outcomes this year.  IMO.  So personally I dont care which way it is resolved, I will back whatever Gypsy wants to do, and if someone wants to freak out about it, I just dont give any sh!ts about that personally.

My suggestion for next year.  Have a roster cut down date in place.  Explicitly make sure everyone knows what the roster number expectation is.  And have the commish drop players off the teams that dont meet it (based on KTC or some other neutral valuation site).  But all that can be figured out in the offseason  (if people actually show up during the offseason, which is getting more and more rare).

 

[kutulu 1,702]

On 8/27/2025 at 9:49 AM, Gypsybrat said:

Sitting here drinking my coffee and have some time before I need to prepare for my day, so thought I would let you all know where I stand.

 

Couple years ago, I enforced the draft timer rule with Vudu, and skipped his pick.  Mayhem followed.   Long story short, he quit the league because of that.

fast forward to the next year, and Taco Breath doesn't show on time for the draft.   Based on the previous year, I put on the kid gloves and and gave Taco time to get here and make his pick.  Dream Wreckers quit because I didn't enforce the league rules.

  damned if I do.....damned if I don't.

 

Now this year, we have Mmmm...Beer not happy with the rule of having to cut down to 25 before the draft.  He wants to cut down from 30 minus total draft picks.  We have a discussion, and after threatening to quit the league, he makes the cuts with the knowledge we will have a discussion/vote on the rule for next year.

Now MtSkiBum does the exact same thing, but does not make the cuts prior to the draft and threatens to quit.

 

I can call for punitive action to be taken towards MtSkiBum, and more than likely lose him as an owner, which I would hate because I like him as a person and owner.  

I can let it slide, and piss the hell out of Mmmm...Beer (which is a totally justified reaction) and jeopardize losing him as an owner, which I would hate because I like him as a person and owner too.

  damned if I do.....damned if I don't.

 

Honestly, I am not sure what to do.  But what I am sure of, is this kind of  happening every year is seriously wearing thin with me. 

So WHAT am I gonna do?   I am doing nothing.  I am not making another decision/determination about this league.  You all need to have a discussion on how you want this league run.  Either by the books with set penalties for infractions or by the seat of our pants and deal with anything as it happens.

Once you all figure that out, you can tell me.  What you all decide will be how I run this league.......if there is a league to run after this.

 

 

 

Sucks that people are getting upset, quitting, threatening to quit, throwing static on the commish, which I think is the 3rd of 4th one we've cycled through. Anyways I always felt like this was a chill league. We had rules but we're always able to give a little extra time and things always seemed to work out, for the most part. We're pushing an almost 20 year dynasty league. Maybe it's just time to call it a league after this season. The dam keeps springing leaks. I'd love to continue just not sure it's in the cards. jmo

[kutulu 1,702]

I didn't refresh and missed a few posts but I agree with most of what was said above

[kutulu 1,702]

And also thanks GB, I think you've done an excellent job considering

[kutulu 1,702]

Deep down though I think you're all scared of me winning another championship to get to  nasty bowls. Which actually doesn't sound that great when you put pen to paper.

[mmmmm...beer 815]

Meh... its fine.  We just need to clarify a few things.  Its not easy keeping 12 people happy all the time.  

I'm one of the original guys...  I'm fine sticking around.

[Bier Meister 1,749]

10 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Meh... its fine.  We just need to clarify a few things.  Its not easy keeping 12 people happy all the time.  

I'm one of the original guys...  I'm fine sticking around.

[Gypsybrat 131]

Thanks everyone who posted.  I appreciate the gratitude shown 

Sounds like we just need to tighten up the rules a bit with events having set dates and repurcussions for not meeting those dates.

 

The events I think should have a set date: 

Paying of League Fees (this one doesn;t really bother me as I know everyone is good for the money when they get around to it)

Roster reduced to agreed upon size which we will decide on.  (This is one I think needs to be enforced with an appropriate "punishment" if not in compliance)

Draft Date (we set this each year depending on everyones schedule which is fine, but we need to discuss "punishments" if you let your draft timer expire)

Anyone have any other events you think we should nail down to a particular date?

 

 

[SUXBNME 1,594]

On 10/6/2025 at 6:00 AM, Gypsybrat said:

Thanks everyone who posted.  I appreciate the gratitude shown 

Sounds like we just need to tighten up the rules a bit with events having set dates and repurcussions for not meeting those dates.

 

The events I think should have a set date: 

Paying of League Fees (this one doesn;t really bother me as I know everyone is good for the money when they get around to it)

Roster reduced to agreed upon size which we will decide on.  (This is one I think needs to be enforced with an appropriate "punishment" if not in compliance)

Draft Date (we set this each year depending on everyones schedule which is fine, but we need to discuss "punishments" if you let your draft timer expire)

Anyone have any other events you think we should nail down to a particular date?

 

 

Well said, sir. 
If it wasn't for your dumb ass, we wouldn't even have a league this year.  I thank you for that. (even though I'm 0-5)

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

1. If rules are worded poorly worded and go against the spirit of the rule, the rule should be reworded rather than enforced. 

 

 

[Gypsybrat 131]

On 10/10/2025 at 1:19 PM, MTSkiBum said:

1. If rules are worded poorly worded and go against the spirit of the rule, the rule should be reworded rather than enforced. 

 

 

I agree. 

I am also struggling on how to put our Roster Cutdown vote into words.  The following is what I have come up with so far. 

Everyone, feel free to suggest any changes or point out any loopholes that may arise.

 

Example:

Vote for one of the following for roster cutdowns:

A.  Roster cutdown to 25

B. Roster cut down to "X" ("X" being the roster limit of 30 minus your total draft picks)

 

[Bigtraine 32]

On 10/27/2025 at 7:37 AM, Gypsybrat said:

mple:

Vote for one of the following for roster cutdowns:

A.  Roster cutdown to 25

B. Roster cut down to "X" ("X" being the roster limit of 30 minus your total draft picks)

 

Just a suggestion on one way to write it out a little more detailed:

A.  Roster cutdown to 25:  each team must cut players until their roster is size is 25 or less, regardless of whether they have fewer than 5 draft picks in the upcoming rookie draft.  If a team has more rookie draft picks than 5, they must further reduce their roster size until it is the roster limit of 30 minus their total number of upcoming rookie draft picks.  Example:  a team has 3 rookie draft picks, they must still reduce their roster to 25 players or less, even though they have less than 5 draft picks.  Example 2:  a team has 7 rookie draft picks, they must reduce their roster to 23 players or less (30 roster size limit minus their 7 draft picks).  

B. Roster cut down to "X" ("X" being the roster limit of 30 minus your total draft picks)

 

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

You have to think about why the rules are in place. 

 

The reason that cutdowns happen in dynasty leagues before the draft is because every year there is someone that is cut that someone else picks up. If cutdowns happened during the draft then there may be an owner, would draft a player at beginning of 4th round for example, however the team who cut them was mid 4th and cut just prior to their pick. Then someone in late 4th could draft that player without that first owner getting a shot at the player even though they had the earlier pick to draft them.

This is why cutdowns is always roster size minus number of picks. The team's that have the largest number of picks are the teams that will most likely cut a player that someone else will draft because they have to make steeper cuts to their team.