Air Force Academy cancels lecture after discovering speaker disparaged Trump

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https://gazette.com/military/air-force-academy-cancels-lecture-after-discovering-speaker-disparaged-trump/article_212641a6-5f65-45df-889f-a79eef99ac44.html

Air Force Academy cancels lecture after discovering speaker disparaged Trump

Air Force Academy officials have canceled an upcoming annual lecture after discovering the speaker's online history of disparaging President Donald Trump, prompting serious concern from the donor who supports the series.

Academy alumnus David Jannetta started funding the series in 2008 to bring in writers and artists that have contributed to the understanding of war and encourage critical thinking among cadets.

When Superintendent Lt. Gen. Tony Bauernfeind called Jannetta on Friday to tell him that the school had decided it was not appropriate for University of Utah professor Paisley Rekdal to speak as scheduled in September because she had made disparaging remarks about Trump, Jannetta said he was disappointed and taken aback. Jannetta said the superintendent told him that while Rekdal had a right to express her opinions, it was not appropriate for her to appear at a military academy. [...]

https://x.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1964463658718859678

Canceling civilian speakers at a military academy because they have been critical of the president is not democracy, it's banana republic nonsense and shows an administration that is fearful, rather than confident.

[Fnord 2,452]

But MAGA cares about free speech!!!!!

[Meglamaniac 746]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

But MAGA cares about free speech!!!!!

Free speech isn't free, it has consequences.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

Who said she can’t exercise her free speech? She has to get paid for it? 

[Fnord 2,452]

4 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Free speech isn't free, it has consequences.

 

Yup. Like if you speak out against POTUS, you don't get to present useful information to our military.

Seems... kinda anti-free speech, no?

I don't recall any other Presidents ever doing this. Do you?

[Fnord 2,452]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Who said she can’t exercise her free speech? She has to get paid for it? 

She said something mean about dear leader.

Obviously she's no longer qualified to present information that would lead to cadets having critical thinking skills. The guy who pays for it WENT to the academy. 

But keep bitching about the important free speech issues, like pronouns.

[Meglamaniac 746]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Yup. Like if you speak out against POTUS, you don't get to present useful information to our military.

Seems... kinda anti-free speech, no?

I don't recall any other Presidents ever doing this. Do you?

Pretty sure they were able to speek thier mind so no, not anti free speach, the useful information is still available to our military if they want to find it

What relevance does what other POTUS have done in the past have? And I'm not seeeing where this was Trump's doing.  

[Strike 5,924]

He's the head of the military.  Why would we want a speaker who talks badly about the head of our organization speaking?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

She said something mean about dear leader.

Obviously she's no longer qualified to present information that would lead to cadets having critical thinking skills. The guy who pays for it WENT to the academy. 

But keep bitching about the important free speech issues, like pronouns.

What’s the information? She’s a poet.  

[squistion 2,411]

5 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Pretty sure they were able to speek thier mind so no, not anti free speach, the useful information is still available to our military if they want to find it

What relevance does what other POTUS have done in the past have? And I'm not seeeing where this was Trump's doing.  

Not his doing but obviously a reaction to other things he has been doing, like pressuring West Point to cancel Tom Hanks appearance.

[Fnord 2,452]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

He's the head of the military.  Why would we want a speaker who talks badly about the head of our organization speaking?

Because they might have some useful knowledge that would help prepare our soldiers?

We brought in focking Nazis to help us build atomic bombs, but someone complaining about Trump is a bridge too far!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

Just now, Fnord said:

Because they might have some useful knowledge that would help prepare our soldiers?

We brought in focking Nazis to help us build atomic bombs, but someone complaining about Trump is a bridge too far!

Poetry? 

[BrahmaBulls 893]

Some of you don't understand what free speech means.   LadySquis doesn't surprise me she's just a troll.  Others of you should be more intelligent though.

[Fnord 2,452]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What’s the information? She’s a poet.  

TL;DR?

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Academy alumnus David Jannetta started funding the series in 2008 to bring in writers and artists that have contributed to the understanding of war and encourage critical thinking among cadets.

 

[BrahmaBulls 893]

Angel Reese got suspended for disparaging comments about her employer too.   She's black and a woman too.  Perfect fodder for your libs to lose your .  Can't believe you missed that one.

[Meglamaniac 746]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not his doing but obviously a reaction to other things he has been doing, like pressuring West Point to cancel Tom Hanks appearance.

So not his doing but still his fault, got it

[Meglamaniac 746]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Because they might have some useful knowledge that would help prepare our soldiers?

We brought in focking Nazis to help us build atomic bombs, but someone complaining about Trump is a bridge too far!

Again, the information is still available

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

TL;DR?

 

Her expertise is poetry. Was she going to speak about something else? 

[Fnord 2,452]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Angel Reese got suspended for disparaging comments about her employer too.   She's black and a woman too.  Perfect fodder for your libs to lose your .  Can't believe you missed that one.

The US Government isn't a private corporation. With few exceptions based on the type of work a federal employee is doing, they all still have the right to free speech. Also, she wasn't an employee, she was being paid by a former Cadet. HTH.

[BrahmaBulls 893]

Just now, Fnord said:

The US Government isn't a private corporation. With few exceptions based on the type of work a federal employee is doing, they all still have the right to free speech. Also, she wasn't an employee, she was being paid by a former Cadet. HTH.

Let me know when Jannetta gets locked up for speaking.  HTH

[Meglamaniac 746]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

The US Government isn't a private corporation. With few exceptions based on the type of work a federal employee is doing, they all still have the right to free speech. Also, she wasn't an employee, she was being paid by a former Cadet. HTH.

She spoke her mind and The Airforce Acadamy spoke thiers, free speach all around

[Fnord 2,452]

2 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Again, the information is still available

Maybe, I don't know. You and HT don't either.

Is that our philosophy for education in this country now? 

"Well kids, no need to go over reading, writing or arithmetic in class today, the information is available online! Go check it out when you get home, but til then, smoke em if ya got em, and fock off!"

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

Liberals hysterical about the education now. lol. NYC spends 42k a year per student. How’s that working out? 

[Meglamaniac 746]

Just now, Fnord said:

Maybe, I don't know. You and HT don't either.

Is that our philosophy for education in this country now? 

"Well kids, no need to go over reading, writing or arithmetic in class today, the information is available online! Go check it out when you get home, but til then, smoke em if ya got em, and fock off!"

Such a bad take, she was going to be a guest speaker, not a teacher, she may have had 2 hours with the cadets and what she was going to talk about is still readily avaiable to anyone that wants it.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

2 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Such a bad take, she was going to be a guest speaker, not a teacher, she may have had 2 hours with the cadets and what she was going to talk about is still readily avaiable to anyone that wants it.

 

Nice days pay that the cadets will forget as soon as it’s over. A complete waste of time.  

[Fnord 2,452]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Such a bad take, she was going to be a guest speaker, not a teacher, she may have had 2 hours with the cadets and what she was going to talk about is still readily avaiable to anyone that wants it.

 

I'm old enough to remember when righties were pissed when Milo Yioanopowhateverthefuck wasn't allowed to speak at Berkley, and he's a bigoted agitator POS. Now it's okay for a poet with "knowledge of war" to be ousted from a speaking engagement because she said mean things about Trump.

You seem like a good dude and I have nothing against you. But at what point will the decent folks that voted for Trump stop justifying everything he does?

 

[Fnord 2,452]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nice days pay that the cadets will forget as soon as it’s over. A complete waste of time.  

Wow, Donald sure is missing an opportunity by not hiring you for his admin. You have ALL the answers. It's remarkable, given how little you like to read or comprehend what you're reading. You're just like Donald! A stable genius!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Wow, Donald sure is missing an opportunity by not hiring you for his admin. You have ALL the answers. It's remarkable, given how little you like to read or comprehend what you're reading. You're just like Donald! A stable genius!

Teach them how to kill our enemies and stay alive. That’s what I want. You want some soyboy version of the military. Well, you can’t have it anymore. Tough 

[Ron_Artest 2,026]

If you go into what she said, she had one post where she objected to Trump's unconstitutional EO targeting student protests.

https://www.westword.com/news/air-force-academy-canceled-lecturer-for-critical-trump-posts-25424941

Seems pretty benign.

We're turning into North Korea.

[Ron_Artest 2,026]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm old enough to remember when righties were pissed when Milo Yioanopowhateverthefuck wasn't allowed to speak at Berkley, and he's a bigoted agitator POS. Now it's okay for a poet with "knowledge of war" to be ousted from a speaking engagement because she said mean things about Trump.

You seem like a good dude and I have nothing against you. But at what point will the decent folks that voted for Trump stop justifying everything he does?

 

Only when it affects them personally, which will happen as the economy continues to crumble,

[Meglamaniac 746]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm old enough to remember when righties were pissed when Milo Yioanopowhateverthefuck wasn't allowed to speak at Berkley, and he's a bigoted agitator POS. Now it's okay for a poet with "knowledge of war" to be ousted from a speaking engagement because she said mean things about Trump.

You seem like a good dude and I have nothing against you. But at what point will the decent folks that voted for Trump stop justifying everything he does?

 

Trump didn't do anything, like I said free speach isn't free and the Acaday was under no obligation to have her speak.  This is a HUGE nothingburger that people are trying to make issue over.

It's not a free speach issue no matter how bad you want it to be, sorry, it's just not, free speach was never limited

[Ron_Artest 2,026]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

Trump didn't do anything, like I said free speach isn't free and the Acaday was under no obligation to have her speak.  This is a HUGE nothingburger that people are trying to make issue over.

It's not a free speach issue no matter ow bad you want it to be, sorry, it's just not, free speach was never limited

You are correct that it's not a free speech issue, but you have no problem with the govt eliminating dissent and only promoting people who support everything the president does?  You don't think this is creepy?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

If you go into what she said, she had one post where she objected to Trump's unconstitutional EO targeting student protests.

https://www.westword.com/news/air-force-academy-canceled-lecturer-for-critical-trump-posts-25424941

Seems pretty benign.

We're turning into North Korea.

Wow. That’s a huge threat to everything we hold dear. What are you planning on doing about it, before it’s too late? 

[Fnord 2,452]

8 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Trump didn't do anything, like I said free speach isn't free and the Acaday was under no obligation to have her speak.  This is a HUGE nothingburger that people are trying to make issue over.

It's not a free speach issue no matter how bad you want it to be, sorry, it's just not, free speach was never limited

Agree to disagree then. Thanks.

[Fnord 2,452]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Teach them how to kill our enemies and stay alive. That’s what I want. You want some soyboy version of the military. Well, you can’t have it anymore. Tough 

Genius!

[Ron_Artest 2,026]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow. That’s a huge threat to everything we hold dear. What are you planning on doing about it, before it’s too late? 

There isn't anything I can do except vote and protest.

[HellToupee 2,098]

Hey @edjr   time for a bump

[Hardcore troubadour 15,901]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

There isn't anything I can do except vote and protest.

Thats it? You would have let the Nazis come into your town and round people up? 

[Ron_Artest 2,026]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Thats it? You would have let the Nazis come into your town and round people up? 

What would you do?

[TBayXXXVII 2,647]

35 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm old enough to remember when righties were pissed when Milo Yioanopowhateverthefuck wasn't allowed to speak at Berkley, and he's a bigoted agitator POS. Now it's okay for a poet with "knowledge of war" to be ousted from a speaking engagement because she said mean things about Trump.

You seem like a good dude and I have nothing against you. But at what point will the decent folks that voted for Trump stop justifying everything he does?

 

That's a parallel to you?