Heritage Foundation backs Tucker after backlash for Nick Fuentes interview

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He reiterates that criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism, I know some here seem to disagree with that.

 

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I don't know who any of these people are. 

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anyone care? 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

anyone care? 

@TimHauck does.

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24 minutes ago, Strike said:

@TimHauck does.

Republicans know they need the votes of Fuentes’s followers.  They tried canceling him, but he’s uncancelable.  Seems like they’re now trying to see if they can turn him into slightly less of a POS.

I do think this statement from the Heritage Foundation is yet another realization from influential Republicans that more and more voters on the right, especially younger ones, are not fans of the Israeli government, and especially the US funding them.

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From what I’m seeing (N=1), the popularity of Fuentes is growing. 

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so basically, no one cares. Got it. 

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23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Republicans know they need the votes of Fuentes’s followers.  They tried canceling him, but he’s uncancelable.  Seems like they’re now trying to see if they can turn him into slightly less of a POS.

I do think this statement from the Heritage Foundation is yet another realization from influential Republicans that more and more voters on the right, especially younger ones, are not fans of the Israeli government, and especially the US funding them.

That lefty Looney tried to cancel him permanently. You know, like they do when they dont like somebody's opinions. 

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13 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

That lefty Looney tried to cancel him permanently. You know, like they do when they dont like somebody's opinions. 

Link to that person being a leftist?  As you can see there are many on the right that don’t like Fuentes as well (rightfully so of course).

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to that person being a leftist?  As you can see there are many on the right that don’t like Fuentes as well (rightfully so of course).

cool story. 

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to that person being a leftist?  As you can see there are many on the right that don’t like Fuentes as well (rightfully so of course).

Recent history shows that right leaning people don't try to murder those with whom they disagree ideologically. 

That seems to be a predominantly leftist tactic these days. That isn't disputable. 

 

 

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Thanks for confirming the OP is a useless troll

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9 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Recent history shows that right leaning people don't try to murder those with whom they disagree ideologically. 

That seems to be a predominantly leftist tactic these days. That isn't disputable. 

 

 

Yes it is disputable.  I’m not saying they were righties but there is less evidence that Tyler Robinson, Thomas Crooks and Joshua Jahn for example were “leftists” than there is evidence that Vance Boelter was a righty.  And of course the fact that Boelter, and the MAGA dude that attacked a Mormon church just to name a couple recent examples,  exist, are counter to your whole argument.

Also, kinda the entire reason that Tucker was getting backlash is that many on the right don’t want to accept Fuentes as “one of them” (again, rightfully so).  If there is one guy that “agrees politically” with a lot of stuff on the right that mentally ill righties might want to kill, it’s Fuentes.

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24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes it is disputable.  I’m not saying they were righties but there is less evidence that Tyler Robinson, Thomas Crooks and Joshua Jahn for example were “leftists” than there is evidence that Vance Boelter was a righty.  And of course the fact that Boelter, and the MAGA dude that attacked a Mormon church just to name a couple recent examples,  exist, are counter to your whole argument.

Also, kinda the entire reason that Tucker was getting backlash is that many on the right don’t want to accept Fuentes as “one of them” (again, rightfully so).  If there is one guy that “agrees politically” with a lot of stuff on the right that mentally ill righties might want to kill, it’s Fuentes.

The fact that you had to dismiss three examples for what you perceive to be "lack of evidence" to support your one "example", and another nutjob, suggests I'm completely right. 

Especially given the fact that the resurgence in politically motivated assassination attempts was begun by people opposed to right leaning ideology. 

Political violence is a tool of the left. If that has resulted in outliers on the right participating in the same despicable behavior, you can chalk it up to a "play by their rules" attitude by those who have had enough of the buIIshit. 

 

ETA: Plenty of Conservatives despised Obama, I dont remember any attempts on his life. 

Plenty of Liberals despised W. Short of one goat focker throwing a couple of sandals at him, I dont remember his life being threatened. 

Political violence is a renewed phenomenon in this country. And it was renewed by the left. 

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12 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

The fact that you had to dismiss three examples for what you perceive to be "lack of evidence" to support your one "example", and another nutjob, suggests I'm completely right. 

Especially given the fact that the resurgence in politically motivated assassination attempts was begun by people opposed to right leaning ideology. 

Political violence is a tool of the left. If that has resulted in outliers on the right participating in the same despicable behavior, you can chalk it up to a "play by their rules" attitude by those who have had enough of the buIIshit. 

Why do you put “example” in parentheses?  Please tell me you’re not an “aPpOiNtEd By WaLz” guy.

So when a righty commits a crime for what can be considered a political reason (IMO, attacking Mormons is just as “political” as allegedly attacking someone for being anti-trans), they’re written off as a “nutjob,” but if a lefty (or at least, someone that the right claims is a lefty) does it, they are representative of the entire left. The hypocrisy is stunning.  Then the blaming the left for a righty committing a politically motivated assassination is a nice touch.  Right out of the @TBayXXXVII playbook.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Why do you put “example” in parentheses?  Please tell me you’re not an “aPpOiNtEd By WaLz” guy.

So when a righty commits a crime for what can be considered a political reason (IMO, attacking Mormons is just as “political” as allegedly attacking someone for being anti-trans), they’re written off as a “nutjob,” but if a lefty (or at least, someone that the right claims is a lefty) does it, they are representative of the entire left. The hypocrisy is stunning.  Then the blaming the left for a righty committing a politically motivated assassination is a nice touch.  Right out of the @TBayXXXVII playbook.

Let me be clear on this, I think anybody who kills, or tries to kill, anybody, for any reason other than self defense, is a focking nutjob. They're mentally focked up and deserve to be removed from society, permanently. 

I never said these nutjobs were representative of the entire American left. I merely stated that they are responsible for the resurgence in politically motivated violence. 

I don't see how you can credibly argue against that, although I know you'll try. 

Recent history will prove you wrong, however. 

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Just now, 5-Points said:

Let me be clear on this, I think anybody who kills, or tries to kill, anybody, for any reason other than self defense, is a focking nutjob. They're mentally focked up and deserve to be removed from society, permanently. 

I never said these nutjobs were representative of the entire American left. I merely stated that they are responsible for the resurgence in politically motivated violence. 

I don't see how you can credibly argue against that, although I know you'll try. 

Recent history will prove you wrong, however. 

When are you claiming that this “resurgence” started?

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3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

When are you claiming that this “resurgence” started?

2017. When James Hodgkinson shot up Steve Scalise and the Republicans while they were practicing for a Congressional baseball game. 

It had been a few decades since the U.S. had seen a politically motivated assassination attempt up to that point. At least as far as I remember. 

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7 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

2017. When James Hodgkinson shot up Steve Scalise and the Republicans while they were practicing for a Congressional baseball game. 

It had been a few decades since the U.S. had seen a politically motivated assassination attempt up to that point. At least as far as I remember. 

And what other leftist assassination attempts were made in 2018-2023?

I just tried searching in general and I see:

2018 MAGA dude mails pipe bombs which targeted multiple Democrats

2019 white supremacist Christopher Paul Hasson plotted to kill Democrats 

2020 pro-Trump, anti-Obama self-described “antifeminist” attempts to kill Obama-appointed judge, killing her son

2022 assassination attempt on Dem Louisville mayor, but by a BLM dude (so a point for you here)

2024 Trump x2 - I’ll give you Routh, but even he was mostly just crazy on one issue and was a previous Trump voter.  Crooks is really still TBD (well probably never will be determined at this point)

So yeah, I disagree that “the left is responsible for the resusurge in politically motivated violence.” Seems like you have both a selective memory and a bias in declaring that if someone tries to kill a conservative they must be a leftist (but seemingly not the same attitude when someone tries to kill a Democrat).  It’s also interesting you start in 2017 even though there were multiple plots to kill Obama as well as the assassination attempt on Gabby Giffords prior to that, although similar to Crooks, the guy who shot Giffords may not have been really either left or right.

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Hack triggered again!  

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Hack triggered again!  

Just proving @5-Points wrong, but what else is new