Week 13 Power Rankings

[Voltaire 5,505]

Not doing it this week. I'm on vacation and didn't watch any games yesterday as I spent the entire day driving.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone from the Smoky Mountains in western North Carolina.

[Voltaire 5,505]

One team from the Bears, Lions, Packers, Seahawks, and 49ers isn't making the playoffs and that team is Chicago. Meanwhile, the entire AFC should be praying the Jags and/or Houston make the playoffs and KC is locked out. Chargers could collapse. The AFC North is only getting one team: Baltimore.

[supermike80 2,112]

22 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

One team from the Bears, Lions, Packers, Seahawks, and 49ers isn't making the playoffs and that team is Chicago. Meanwhile, the entire AFC should be praying the Jags and/or Houston make the playoffs and KC is locked out. Chargers could collapse. The AFC North is only getting one team: Baltimore.

Not sure I agree with that.  Yeah the Bears are winning ugly, but they are winning.  The Lions looked terrible Sunday and needed a 59 yard field goal to even force OT.   This against the hapless Giants.  Now, if the Lions play well and win Thursday, my opinion will change.  But right now,, they don't look good at all

[Voltaire 5,505]

12 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Not sure I agree with that.  Yeah the Bears are winning ugly, but they are winning.  The Lions looked terrible Sunday and needed a 59 yard field goal to even force OT.   This against the hapless Giants.  Now, if the Lions play well and win Thursday, my opinion will change.  But right now,, they don't look good at all

The Bears season is finally getting real. They've barely beaten up on crap teams all year and have Eagles, Packers, Browns, Packers, 49ers, Lions left on the schedule. That's one win left in the tank and maybe another to get to ten.

The Lions are likely too banged up again this year to make a full playoff run.

[listen2me 23 1,958]

20 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Not sure I agree with that.  Yeah the Bears are winning ugly, but they are winning.  The Lions looked terrible Sunday and needed a 59 yard field goal to even force OT.   This against the hapless Giants.  Now, if the Lions play well and win Thursday, my opinion will change.  But right now,, they don't look good at all

So if the Lions win ugly its big trouble.  But if Bears win ugly each week vs bad teams (pitt at homr with rudolph isnt a bad team but meh)...its "well thry are winning".  

Not understanding the logic.  

By all means teams dont change week to week that much.  Yet everyone overreacts to everything.  Bills were back when they beat the Chiefs, then lost to Phins so sucked again, thrn were back again handling the Bucs, then all of a sudden suck again because they lost on road to Texans.  Its hilarious.   

People also overreact if a supposed good team wins but struggles vs a "bad team".  Everyone acts like upsets are unheard of in the NFL.  Yet they see it each week.  But cant imagine certain matchups being close games.  

[edjr 6,982]

Who cares about your sh1t biased opinion? 

[edjr 6,982]

Need the bears to make the playoffs. 

[supermike80 2,112]

9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

So if the Lions win ugly its big trouble.  But if Bears win ugly each week vs bad teams (pitt at homr with rudolph isnt a bad team but meh)...its "well thry are winning".  

Not understanding the logic.  

By all means teams dont change week to week that much.  Yet everyone overreacts to everything.  Bills were back when they beat the Chiefs, then lost to Phins so sucked again, thrn were back again handling the Bucs, then all of a sudden suck again because they lost on road to Texans.  Its hilarious.   

People also overreact if a supposed good team wins but struggles vs a "bad team".  Everyone acts like upsets are unheard of in the NFL.  Yet they see it each week.  But cant imagine certain matchups being close games.  

Wow....You OK?   Just my opinion.   I don't think the Lions are very good right now.  They play GB Thursday and still have the best team in the NFL right now, the Rams upcoming.  It ain't easy.  So yeah, based on how they are playing, I can't see them getting in the layoffs.  Again, if they show up against GB my opinion will change

Take it easy big fela.

[edjr 6,982]

They are the Lions and their head coach is retarded. 0 shot of winning it all

[cmh6476 1,146]

38 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Not sure I agree with that.  Yeah the Bears are winning ugly, but they are winning.  The Lions looked terrible Sunday and needed a 59 yard field goal to even force OT.   This against the hapless Giants.  Now, if the Lions play well and win Thursday, my opinion will change.  But right now,, they don't look good at all

The Lions are doing a new partnership with Feeding America on Thursday, so I'm looking forward to that

[Mike Honcho 5,518]

8 minutes ago, edjr said:

They are the Lions and their head coach is retarded. 0 shot of winning it all

 

18 minutes ago, edjr said:

Who cares about your sh1t biased opinion? 

[edjr 6,982]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

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[cmh6476 1,146]

If you go by current odds to win the super bowl, you're looking at:

1. Rams

2. Eagles

3. Chiefs

4. Seahawks

5. Colts

6. Lions

7. Ravens

8. Broncos

9. Bills

10. Patriots

11. Packers

12. 49ers

13. Chargers

14. Texans

15. Bears

16. Jaguars

17. Buccaneers

18. Cowboys

19. Steelers

20. Panthers

21. Bengals

22. Browns

23. Commanders

24. Dolphins

25. Vikings

26. Titans

27. Cardinals

28. Raiders

29. Falcons

30. Saints

31. Jets

Not listed: Giants

 

[edjr 6,982]

Just now, cmh6476 said:

If you go by current odds to win the super bowl, you're looking at:

 

9. Bills

10. Patriots

 

 

[cmh6476 1,146]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

 

Bills are currently +1300, while the Patriots are +1500 per fanduel

[supermike80 2,112]

5 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

If you go by current odds to win the super bowl, you're looking at:

1. Rams

2. Eagles

3. Chiefs

4. Seahawks

5. Colts

6. Lions

7. Ravens

8. Broncos

9. Bills

10. Patriots

11. Packers

12. 49ers

13. Chargers

14. Texans

15. Bears

16. Jaguars

17. Buccaneers

18. Cowboys

19. Steelers

20. Panthers

21. Bengals

22. Browns

23. Commanders

24. Dolphins

25. Vikings

26. Titans

27. Cardinals

28. Raiders

29. Falcons

30. Saints

31. Jets

Not listed: Giants

 

Lots of parody this year.  But man the Rams sure look good

[edjr 6,982]

6 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Bills are currently +1300, while the Patriots are +1500 per fanduel

  The odds are always right!  Do you have eyes son?

[cmh6476 1,146]

9 minutes ago, edjr said:

  The odds are always right!  Do you have eyes son?

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just listing what the oddsmakers are saying.  

But there is some outliers you must consider when looking at odds, such as teams like Cowboys and Raiders having such widespread fanbases, they are typically bet on more than bet against, I would assume

I could see the Bills and Pats difference this year being your mainstream fans would typically assume the Bills are better.  Doesn't mean they're right.

 

[Voltaire 5,505]

1) Los Angeles Rams 9-2  1

2) Green Bay Packers 7-3-1 4

3) Seattle Seahawks 8-3   5

4) Philadelphia Eagles 8-3   2

5) Denver Broncos 9-2  9

6) Detroit Lions 7-4 6

7) Kansas City Chiefs 6-5 11

8 ) New England Patriots 10-2  8

9) San Francisco 49ers 8-4  10

10) Indianapolis Colts 8-3  3

11) Baltimore Ravens 6-5 13

12) Buffalo Bills 7-4  7

13) Los Angeles Chargers 7-4 12

14) Chicago Bears 8-3 14

15) Jacksonville Jaguars 7-4 16

16) Dallas Cowboys 5-5-1 22

17) Houston Texans 6-5  19

18) Pittsburgh Steelers 6-5 15

19) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6-5 17

20) Carolina Panthers 6-6 18

21) Minnesota Vikings 4-7 20

22) New York Giants 2-10 25

23) Miami Dolphins 4-7 21

24) Atlanta Falcons 4-7 24

25) Cincinnati Bengals 3-8 31

26) Arizona Cardinals 3-8 23

27) Cleveland Browns 3-8 29

28) Washington 3-8 26

29) New Orleans Saints 2-9 27

30) New York Jets 2-9 28

31) Las Vegas Raiders 2-9 30

32) Tennessee Titans 1-10 32

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,576]

until the teams lose

S- Tier Pats, Rams

A- Tier Broncos, Eagles, Packers, Seahawks, 49ers

B- Tier Chargers, Jags, Chiefs, Bills, Bears, Lions, Ravens, Colts

C- Tier Steelers, Cowboys, Texans, Buccs, Panthers

D- Tier The Rest

[cmh6476 1,146]

On 11/24/2025 at 9:07 AM, edjr said:

They are the Lions and their head coach is retarded. 0 shot of winning it all

Looks accurate. 

[cmh6476 1,146]

just going through the ESPN playoff simulator, picking the Chiefs to win out (probably wishful thinking, but it could happen) and taking the AFC matchup that I feel is likely to win (giving due credit to teams like the Donkeys, Bills, Pats, etc) and I have the Chiefs coming out as the #6 seed at 11-6.

Not saying that's what I necessarily think is going to happen, but more of an acknowledgement that most of these AFC teams face pretty brutal schedules heading down the stretch and there is a lot of good football to be played.

I am a little disappointed in our whiny (at the moment) fan base acting like it's our God given right to win Super Bowls.  I think the days of continually drafting last are catching up to us, there are a lot of good football teams at the playing very solid football.  This is just another stretch of adversity that I'm excited to watch how the team and Mahomes responds.

 

[listen2me 23 1,958]

On 11/25/2025 at 12:09 AM, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

until the teams lose

S- Tier Pats, Rams

A- Tier Broncos, Eagles, Packers, Seahawks, 49ers

B- Tier Chargers, Jags, Chiefs, Bills, Bears, Lions, Ravens, Colts

C- Tier Steelers, Cowboys, Texans, Buccs, Panthers

D- Tier The Rest

Steelers are 6-6 so its not like they arent in that convo based on record.  But I have a hard time putting Steelers anywhere decent.  Their defense isnt good.  Their offense is short passes with an old hurt qb.  I honestly dont know what they have going for them.  Usually they play small ball with a good defense.  They are playing small ball with a bad defense.  

Id take any of the teams they are grouped with over them.   Steelers wouldnt score a pt vs the Texans.  Sort of amazed by some of their scores this year, the version I have seen maybe 3 or 4 times this year has just no juice at all.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,573]

On 11/24/2025 at 10:22 AM, cmh6476 said:

If you go by current odds to win the super bowl, you're looking at:

1. Rams

2. Eagles

3. Chiefs

4. Seahawks

5. Colts

6. Lions

7. Ravens

8. Broncos

9. Bills

10. Patriots

11. Packers

12. 49ers

13. Chargers

14. Texans

15. Bears

16. Jaguars

17. Buccaneers

18. Cowboys

19. Steelers

20. Panthers

21. Bengals

22. Browns

23. Commanders

24. Dolphins

25. Vikings

26. Titans

27. Cardinals

28. Raiders

29. Falcons

30. Saints

31. Jets

Not listed: Giants

 

You can put the Chiefs in with the Giants. 

[listen2me 23 1,958]

Now I know what Cowboys fans meant when they used to say Parsons gets held all the time.  Its literally every other pass rush snap.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,573]

34 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Now I know what Cowboys fans meant when they used to say Parsons gets held all the time.  Its literally every other pass rush snap.  

Yeah, that was bad 

[listen2me 23 1,958]

27 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Yeah, that was bad 

And im not even complaining about the refs its just like at some point have to call 1 or 2.   Annoying to then see a ticky tack hold call elsewhere on the field.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,573]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

And im not even complaining about the refs its just like at some point have to call 1 or 2.   Annoying to then see a ticky tack hold call elsewhere on the field.  

Agree 100%

[edjr 6,982]

2 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Now I know what Cowboys fans meant when they used to say Parsons gets held all the time.  Its literally every other pass rush snap.  

 

[listen2me 23 1,958]

13 minutes ago, edjr said:

 

Not crying, they won.  Just watch a Packers game and watch him get held each play.  Its actually quite astonishing.  Getting double teamed and then also held for 3 hours has to be exhausting.   Sounds kinky actually.   

[edjr 6,982]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Not crying, they won.  Just watch a Packers game and watch him get held each play.  Its actually quite astonishing.  Getting double teamed and then also held for 3 hours has to be exhausting.   Sounds kinky actually.   

Just busting eggs. The inconsistencies of the referees has become almost unwatchable. It is the NFL though. They can pee on us and tell us it's raining and we will still watch