Another shady sentence commutation for a rich guy

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33 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

The most irrational and illogical mind is that of the liberal who believes he is the most logical in the room.

Believes in its own logic.  Fool. 

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44 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Believes in its own logic.  Fool. 

It beats being a fake Christian.

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7 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Again, what evidence?

Before we discuss the evidence it's important that you understand why presidents have the pardon power.

Presidents have the power to pardon for cases where was a legal error/issue.  Also where the person has earned mercy or for when there is a large public demand for justice.

In the David gentile case, none of this is true.  His case was solid.  He ran a ponzi scheme.  He took investments and paid out returns from future investments while misrepresenting performance.

His case is outlined here: https://www.lincolnsquare.media/p/trump-justice-executive-in-16-billion

Gpb capital defrauded thousands of investors for $1.6B.  People like you and I lost their savings, retirement.

Both Gentile and his partner Jeffrey Schneider were found guilty and convicted to 7 years jail, required to pay back millions in fines.  27 days into his sentence Gentile was pardoned, Schneider was not.

The reason the WH gave was they disagreed with the verdict, which is not why presidents have the pardon power, but still he pardoned Gentile and not Schneider.  There were no legal issues stated.  The reason was "Biden"

Without a valid reason for pardon and pardoning gentile and not Schneider raises the spectre of corruption certainly.

So why Gentile?  There is some evidence of his ties to Russian oligarchs.  The Trump family also has long ties to Russian oligarchs as well.

https://jacquelinesweet.substack.com/p/trump-commuted-the-prison-sentence

When someone like Trump who has a long history of corruption pardons someone for no valid reason, common sense dictates that there is a corrupt reason this happened.

Feel free to dispute any of this.

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Liberals trust Jeffery Epstein's brother over Trump. Another one of those things that lets you know exactly how wrong their minds work.

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14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Before we discuss the evidence it's important that you understand why presidents have the pardon power.

Presidents have the power to pardon for cases where was a legal error/issue.  Also where the person has earned mercy or for when there is a large public demand for justice.

In the David gentile case, none of this is true.  His case was solid.  He ran a ponzi scheme.  He took investments and paid out returns from future investments while misrepresenting performance.

His case is outlined here: https://www.lincolnsquare.media/p/trump-justice-executive-in-16-billion

Gpb capital defrauded thousands of investors for $1.6B.  People like you and I lost their savings, retirement.

Both Gentile and his partner Jeffrey Schneider were found guilty and convicted to 7 years jail, required to pay back millions in fines.  27 days into his sentence Gentile was pardoned, Schneider was not.

The reason the WH gave was they disagreed with the verdict, which is not why presidents have the pardon power, but still he pardoned Gentile and not Schneider.  There were no legal issues stated.  The reason was "Biden"

Without a valid reason for pardon and pardoning gentile and not Schneider raises the spectre of corruption certainly.

So why Gentile?  There is some evidence of his ties to Russian oligarchs.  The Trump family also has long ties to Russian oligarchs as well.

https://jacquelinesweet.substack.com/p/trump-commuted-the-prison-sentence

When someone like Trump who has a long history of corruption pardons someone for no valid reason, common sense dictates that there is a corrupt reason this happened.

Feel free to dispute any of this.

Yeah I know Leavitt stated Gentile’s case was “a case of weaponization of the DOJ.”  So did they think it wasn’t weaponization for the other dude convicted?

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23 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Liberals trust Jeffery Epstein's brother over Trump. Another one of those things that lets you know exactly how wrong their minds work.

Not sure about this but seriously how can anyone trust trump?  He constantly lies about everything, all the time.  He's gotta be the least trustworthy person ever right?

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18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Not sure about this but seriously how can anyone trust trump?  He constantly lies about everything, all the time.  He's gotta be the least trustworthy person ever right?

Your liberal Gods have done far worse than Trump. Because CNN didn't report it, you are unaware.

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18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah I know Leavitt stated Gentile’s case was “a case of weaponization of the DOJ.”  So did they think it wasn’t weaponization for the other dude convicted?

Yup.

The first charge against gbp was a compliance officer in 2019 when Trump was president.

Here is another good outline for the timeline of events.

https://open.substack.com/pub/brendonbeebe/p/what-crime-was-david-gentile-guilty

They got one of the gpb partners to flip and was a key witness.  A jury found him guilty.

On the "weaponization of DOJ' cases, like what we've seen under Trump's DOJ, the charges don't stick.

The evidence in this case is clear and the reason for the pardon is questionable.

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2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Your liberal Gods have done far worse than Trump. Because CNN didn't report it, you are unaware.

I don't have any liberal gods, and yes many others have lied before him but that doesn't excuse any of his behavior.  Trump is the least trustworthy president I have seen in my lifetime and most of the country agrees with me.

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1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Yup.

The first charge against gbp was a compliance officer in 2019 when Trump was president.

Here is another good outline for the timeline of events.

https://open.substack.com/pub/brendonbeebe/p/what-crime-was-david-gentile-guilty

They got one of the gpb partners to flip and was a key witness.  A jury found him guilty.

On the "weaponization of DOJ' cases, like what we've seen under Trump's DOJ, the charges don't stick.

The evidence in this case is clear and the reason for the pardon is questionable.

Well I had never heard of this case until this week but interestingly it looks like Gentile was originally sentenced to 7 years and Schneider 6, which would imply Gentile was found to be even more guilty than Schneider

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Also I haven't watched any msdnc in the past few days so if my posts reflect what they are saying it's pure coincidence.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Well I had never heard of this case until this week but interestingly it looks like Gentile was originally sentenced to 7 years and Schneider 6, which would imply Gentile was found to be even more guilty than Schneider

I had not either despite my interest in th se types of cases.  There are just so many.  One of my favorite podcasts is called "swindled" where the guy tells stories of corruption, fraud, theft.  

Anyway this case looks rock solid with no reason for a pardon, but if Jerry or anyone else can provide evidence that the DOJ was corrupt I would love to see it.

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9 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Again, what evidence?

I don’t think there’s any evidence yet that this one was due to corruption (except Occam’s razor).

In terms of pardons, the best evidence of corruption might be his pardon of CZ, whose company directly helped the Trump family crypto project.   And Binance is accused of doing business with Hamas among others.  Did you complain about that one? Since you seem to like complaining about funds given to a club Mamdani started as a college student and all. 

Another example is the ending of the investigation into Justin Sun, who also helped with the Trump family crypto project, in his case by spending about $75 million on it.

There is also Paul Walzcak, whose mother attended a $1 million per person Trump fundraising event at Mar a Lago shortly before he was pardoned.

And Joseph Schwartz, who paid almost $1 million to conservative lobbying groups shortly before his pardon.

No, we might not get direct evidence that people are paying for pardons/commutations/ending investigations, but per my OP, there sure does seem to be a trend of it happening for rich guys, often who happen to support Trump family businesses and/or conservative causes. 

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I was just gonna make this point.  When you look at this pardon in a vacuum, it doesn't make sense.  When you look at all the pardons, and all the corruption, it's just another brick in the wall of corruption that Trump has built