ICE shooting (murder?) in Minnesota of Alex Pretti

[TimHauck 3,572]

11 hours ago, Strike said:

Yes it happened.  Because this guy brought a gun.  And then all you lefties screamed "2nd Amendment!!!!"

 

11 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not sure what your gotcha attempt is here.  Are you in favor of that law in California?  

Regardless, guns are not currently banned at protests in Minnesota.  If they were then it would be fair to criticize Pretti for bringing one.  But they’re not, so it’s not fair to criticize him for bringing one.  And if you do you should acknowledge that Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn’t have brought one either (I’m fine with both).  Edit: actually I retract my earlier statement about it probably not being a bad idea, I think they should be allowed because then it’s just the bad guys who have guns.

 

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[Frozenbeernuts 2,556]

What purpose do the whistles and horns serve in protesting Ice other than making it more likely Ice agents make a mistake?

Many Ice protesters, especially the ones at the top organizing, want to see someone get killed.

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4 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

You keep believing what Daddy tells you to believe when the video clearly shows him leaving the street for the sidewalk.

Not backing up to the agents' liking does not justify deadly force, and God help us if Trump and his MAGA bootlickers drive our society to a place where this kind of murder and fascist oppression is acceptable, like it was in Nazi Germany.

The problem for MAGAs is that they underestimate the rest of America's intolerance and power to keep it from getting there.

MAGA's days are numbered, and when it is reduced to being toothless and powerless, you'll spend the rest of your days crying in your pillow over the injustice of it all and die as a bitter old man.

Dude…

that a55hole is already a bitter old man.

[Voltaire 5,573]

These aren't peaceful protests happening in Minnesota. Both dingdongs up there that got themselves killed thus far showed up intending to interfere with enforcement activities, escalated tensions, and put themselves in bad situations. 

By way of contrast, both the left wing anti-Ice protests here in downtown Pensacola recently are peaceful as were the right wing Pensacola protestors outside the Christmas themed drag show a few weeks back.  Democrat politicians in Minnesota along with left wing media, egg on people to escalate the situation until this happens.

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20 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

These aren't peaceful protests happening in Minnesota. Both dingdongs up there that got themselves killed thus far showed up intending to interfere with enforcement activities, escalated tensions, and put themselves in bad situations. 

By way of contrast, both the left wing anti-Ice protests here in downtown Pensacola recently are peaceful as were the right wing Pensacola protestors outside the Christmas themed drag show a few weeks back.  Democrat politicians in Minnesota along with left wing media, egg on people to escalate the situation until this happens.

Ah, pretty obvious that MAGAs are playing up this whole "they were interfering" and "protecting pedophiles" baloney.

Even if the terrified mom in the vehicle and they guy with the cell phone were really, really "interfering," this so-called "interfering" did not justify deadly force.

Not even focking close, bro. 

Neither of these people were there to interfere with nor were trying to hurt ICE goons.

This is not going sell, man.

And these ICE agents using these incidents to tell people, "See, this is what will happen to you" in their daily work is Gestapo crap.

Fock ICE. Fock this administration.

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38 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

These aren't peaceful protests happening in Minnesota. Both dingdongs up there that got themselves killed thus far showed up intending to interfere with enforcement activities, escalated tensions, and put themselves in bad situations. 

By way of contrast, both the left wing anti-Ice protests here in downtown Pensacola recently are peaceful as were the right wing Pensacola protestors outside the Christmas themed drag show a few weeks back.  Democrat politicians in Minnesota along with left wing media, egg on people to escalate the situation until this happens.

The right wing hate machine eggs on you focking MAGAts.

[TimHauck 3,572]

44 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

right wing Pensacola protestors outside the Christmas themed drag show a few weeks back.  

You were a participant, weren’t you?

[dogcows 1,519]

54 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

These aren't peaceful protests happening in Minnesota. Both dingdongs up there that got themselves killed thus far showed up intending to interfere with enforcement activities, escalated tensions, and put themselves in bad situations. 

By way of contrast, both the left wing anti-Ice protests here in downtown Pensacola recently are peaceful as were the right wing Pensacola protestors outside the Christmas themed drag show a few weeks back.  Democrat politicians in Minnesota along with left wing media, egg on people to escalate the situation until this happens.

Funny, pretty much everybody in America disagrees with you… even your hero Trump.

[Voltaire 5,573]

8 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Ah, pretty obvious that MAGAs are playing up this whole "they were interfering" and "protecting pedophiles" baloney.

Even if the terrified mom in the vehicle and they guy with the cell phone were really, really "interfering," this so-called "interfering" did not justify deadly force.

Not even focking close, bro. 

Neither of these people were there to interfere with nor were trying to hurt ICE goons.

This is not going sell, man.

And these ICE agents using these incidents to tell people, "See, this is what will happen to you" in their daily work is Gestapo crap.

Fock ICE. Fock this administration.

They were both actively interfering and escalated the situation. Denying that loses any credibility your argument has.

Now, neither should have been killed for interfering, but both instances are gray zones as to whether they were indeed a threat to the officers involved and the snap decisions made to fire on them.

It looked to me like Good had zero intention of moving her car since she'd positioned it perfectly to impede traffic and had not moved for three minutes, It was only when the office walked in front of it that she decided to go. I think that officer is innocent. With Pritti, its hard to see but we fo know he had a phone in his hand, not the gun. We also know that he been successfully disarmed a moment before he got shot. Its unclear to me that he had a hand free and if he was reaching for where the gun had been. If these guys had body cams, there'd be 4-5 filming the encounter, hopefully one of them shows clearly his hand. If so, we will see for ourselves if it was both free and moving or not moving to where the gun had been and that will determine my opinion of the matter.  

From a broader level, I see officers that are just trying to do their jobs under highly stressful situations with focktards all around making the situation worse.

[dogcows 1,519]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

They were both actively interfering and escalated the situation. Denying that loses any credibility your argument has.

Now, neither should have been killed for interfering, but both instances are gray zones as to whether they were indeed a threat to the officers involved and the snap decisions made to fire on them.

It looked to me like Good had zero intention of moving her car since she'd positioned it perfectly to impede traffic and had not moved for three minutes, It was only when the office walked in front of it that she decided to go. I think that officer is innocent. With Pritti, its hard to see but we fo know he had a phone in his hand, not the gun. We also know that he been successfully disarmed a moment before he got shot. Its unclear to me that he had a hand free and if he was reaching for where the gun had been. If these guys had body cams, there'd be 4-5 filming the encounter, hopefully one of them shows clearly his hand. If so, we will see for ourselves if it was both free and moving or not moving to where the gun had been and that will determine my opinion of the matter.  

From a broader level, I see officers that are just trying to do their jobs under highly stressful situations with focktards all around making the situation worse.

Still blaming the victims after most of MAGA is finally admitting ICE and CBP are out of control. At least you’re sticking to your guns while other MAGA fans are renaming and deleting posts in their threads to cover up their support of the DHS failures.

[Voltaire 5,573]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You were a participant, weren’t you?

No. I just followed the story in local news. Efforts to block the performance had the side effect of free advertisement and the show got sold out. Its true I did sympathize with the protestors though. That trannies chose to stage a performance like this in a community like ours three days before Christmas time seems intentionally designed to provoke a response.

 

[Voltaire 5,573]

19 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Still blaming the victims after most of MAGA is finally admitting ICE and CBP are out of control. At least you’re sticking to your guns while other MAGA fans are renaming and deleting posts in their threads to cover up their support of the DHS failures.

I found the Good shooting to be justified because the moment she decided to move the car was the moment the officer walked in front of it. 

 As for the Pritti one, I'm hoping to see body cam footage to clarify things. Dude had been resisting arrest but looked pretty much contained at the time the shots went off. It was also clear he had a phone in his hand not a gun. I'm wanting to see if he had a hand break free because they knew he was armed or, more correctly, he had been armed a second earlier. 

[dogcows 1,519]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I found the Good shooting to be justified because the moment she chose to move the car was the moment the officer walked in front of it.

 As for the Pritti one, I'm hoping to see body cam footage to clarify things. Dude had been resisting arrest but looked pretty much contained at the time the shots went off. It was also clear he had a phone in his hand not a gun. I'm wanting to see if he had a hand break free because they knew he was armed or, more correctly, he had been armed a second earlier. 

Hopefully the investigation will be carried out by serious adults and not MAGA internet jagoffs.

[Voltaire 5,573]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Hopefully the investigation will be carried out by serious adults and not MAGA internet jagoffs.

Unfortunately, the only options to perform the investigation are the feds and Minnesota and neither are inclined to do so in an unbiased way. The best we can do as a population is look at the evidence for ourselves and make a determination, which it seems like a Rorschach test for everybody.

[FrancieFootball 439]

44 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

They were both actively interfering and escalated the situation. Denying that loses any credibility your argument has.

Now, neither should have been killed for interfering, but both instances are gray zones as to whether they were indeed a threat to the officers involved and the snap decisions made to fire on them.

It looked to me like Good had zero intention of moving her car since she'd positioned it perfectly to impede traffic and had not moved for three minutes, It was only when the office walked in front of it that she decided to go. I think that officer is innocent. With Pritti, its hard to see but we fo know he had a phone in his hand, not the gun. We also know that he been successfully disarmed a moment before he got shot. Its unclear to me that he had a hand free and if he was reaching for where the gun had been. If these guys had body cams, there'd be 4-5 filming the encounter, hopefully one of them shows clearly his hand. If so, we will see for ourselves if it was both free and moving or not moving to where the gun had been and that will determine my opinion of the matter.  

From a broader level, I see officers that are just trying to do their jobs under highly stressful situations with focktards all around making the situation worse.

They weren't interfering. 

The mom just wanted to leave, and the idiot Goon didn't follow basic law-enforcement protocol by not getting what is referred to as "the kill zone" in front of a running vehicle. She didn't know he was there because of the Goon clawing at her and the door. Nothing she did justified deadly force.

Pretti was just standing there with a cell phone.

You're polluted, and MAGAs soon will reap what they sow.

America is rising up.

But keep jerking off to the new MAGA buzzword "interfering."

MAGAs have earned getting interfered with bigly.

[Strike 6,203]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

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I'm not sure if you stalk @Meglamaniac or me more but it's pretty pathetic either way.