mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 So... been thinking on this one for a bit. Instead of QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, FLEX, TE We do: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, FLEX, FLEX, TE I was talking with another owner in the league about this. He thinks it would help alleviate some of those times when we're getting hammered with injuries at WR, which admittedly we all go through. It's at times hard to put up 3 healthy WR's consistantly. This gives us a bit more flexability when those injuries hit. I agree and throw this out on the floor for discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 Also.. we need to come up with a quitters rule. You make mention you're ~sticking for reals, we need some sort of oversite to all further trades and roster moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 Add 2 more IR spots. add 5 pts to home playoff teams #1 seed gets to choose they want to face in the semi-finals, (not the #2 seed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 Add 2 more IR spot YES, but may be only 1 more for a total of 3 add 5 pts to home playoff teams NO, THAT'S DUM #1 seed gets to choose they want to face in the semi-finals, (not the #2 seed) NO, DUM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,514 Posted December 5, 2017 So... been thinking on this one for a bit. Instead of QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, FLEX, TE We do: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, FLEX, FLEX, TE i might even suggest: qb, rb, wr, wr, te, flex, flex, pk, d/st or qb, rb, wr, wr, te, flex, flex, flex, pk, d/st can cap rb at 2 or 3 depending on preference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,514 Posted December 5, 2017 have you guys played with a taxi squad? the basic idea is that that teams hold their younger (rookie, 2nd, and 3rd year) players on a taxi or developmental squad. it allows teams to evaluate prospects for a few years. before the season begins, owners designate players for this squad (ie: 5 players). owners are allowed to promote these players at any time, but must have the space on the roster to do so. once promoted the player is either permanently on the main roster or only for the season (based on preference of the league). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 Add 2 more IR spot YES, but may be only 1 more for a total of 3 add 5 pts to home playoff teams NO, THAT'S DUM #1 seed gets to choose they want to face in the semi-finals, (not the #2 seed) NO, DUM What's dum is allowing a team in the playoffs, (based on points) and making the #1 seed face them in the semi finals., Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 Also.. we need to come up with a quitters rule. You make mention you're ~sticking for reals, we need some sort of oversite to all further trades and roster moves. This is the only one I agree with. The others are dumb. Especially all of Ed's, as one would expect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 have you guys played with a taxi squad? the basic idea is that that teams hold their younger (rookie, 2nd, and 3rd year) players on a taxi or developmental squad. it allows teams to evaluate prospects for a few years. before the season begins, owners designate players for this squad (ie: 5 players). owners are allowed to promote these players at any time, but must have the space on the roster to do so. once promoted the player is either permanently on the main roster or only for the season (based on preference of the league). Your new league may be a smidgen too low brow for this concept? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 have you guys played with a taxi squad? the basic idea is that that teams hold their younger The Roy Moore rule? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted December 5, 2017 Instead of QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, FLEX, TE We do: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, FLEX, FLEX, TE I'm not announcing my full support for this lineup idea, but I'm also not announcing my opposition to it. I'd be willing to discuss it further. Add 2 more IR spots. I'd be fine with more IR spots. add 5 pts to home playoff teams This is a dumb idea on the surface, but I get what it is going after. So I'm willing to discuss it, with the following caveat. Regular season games need a home team advantage as well. What's dum is allowing a team in the playoffs, (based on points) and making the #1 seed face them in the semi finals., I read somewhere recently (may have been a Matt Berry article)....every week you play two games (or 3 in our double header week). Game 1 is against your opponent. Game 2: If you are top 6 in scoring you get a win, bottom 6 in scoring you get a loss. Downside: It'll mess up our career records, which are one of my favorite features on MFL. (Maybe there is a way to not count the points games in career records) Upside: It would mostly eliminate the need for the 6th spot going to a points team. Keeps the head to head aspect. I'm not sure if I totally support the concept, but I did find it very interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 This is a dumb idea on the surface, but I get what it is going after. So I'm willing to discuss it, with the following caveat. Regular season games need a home team advantage as well. I was going to suggest regular season as well. Wasn't sure if that was too much of a stretch. Home games matter in the NFL, a lot. As a top seed in the playoffs, you get no advantage. 3 points is said to be the typical home field advantage in the NFL,. what do they average? 25 points. Fock we average 120+ and I am talking only 5 points. I have not seen this anywhere before, I just thought of it this morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,514 Posted December 5, 2017 I read somewhere recently (may have been a Matt Berry article)....every week you play two games (or 3 in our double header week). Game 1 is against your opponent. Game 2: If you are top 6 in scoring you get a win, bottom 6 in scoring you get a loss. Downside: It'll mess up our career records, which are one of my favorite features on MFL. (Maybe there is a way to not count the points games in career records) Upside: It would mostly eliminate the need for the 6th spot going to a points team. Keeps the head to head aspect. I'm not sure if I totally support the concept, but I did find it very interesting. a couple of ideas: -playoff games are a combination of avg weekly score for regular season + the playoff game. -play head to head. top 4 scorers get an extra win (does not count towards div record). or -play head to head. top 4 get extra win, middle nothing, bottom 4 get an extra loss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted December 5, 2017 - bonus points for home.... NO - taxi squads..... NO (played in a few of these leagues and ultimately the taxi squad is just a convoluted way to expand roster size and our rosters are big enough. Taxi squads can be helpful in dynasties with an expiring contract element to keep those players "clocks from ticking". - Quitting owners..... you state you are intending to leave, your roster is locked from all moves. Shouldn't be allowed to make moves YOU think might be best for the NEW owner. - Matthew Berry idea is a silly combination of head to head and "all play" leagues. Leagues where you play every team every week and that's your record for the week. Essentially it's close to just being a total points league and takes a lot away from the head to head smack talk / bragging rights aspects. -No choosing who you play. 6th seed should be record, not total points. Total points should only be a tie breaker. After round 1, the bracket should be re-seeded (if not already) so that the #1 seed plays lowest remaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 I propose TD passes go from 6 to 4 and we add bonuses for performance (ie... 3 points for over 100 yard rush or receive, 300 for TD pass) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 Blah blah blah You forgot one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted December 5, 2017 You forgot one! blah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 - bonus points for home.... NO - taxi squads..... NO (played in a few of these leagues and ultimately the taxi squad is just a convoluted way to expand roster size and our rosters are big enough. Taxi squads can be helpful in dynasties with an expiring contract element to keep those players "clocks from ticking". - Quitting owners..... you state you are intending to leave, your roster is locked from all moves. Shouldn't be allowed to make moves YOU think might be best for the NEW owner. - Matthew Berry idea is a silly combination of head to head and "all play" leagues. Leagues where you play every team every week and that's your record for the week. Essentially it's close to just being a total points league and takes a lot away from the head to head smack talk / bragging rights aspects. -No choosing who you play. 6th seed should be record, not total points. Total points should only be a tie breaker. After round 1, the bracket should be re-seeded (if not already) so that the #1 seed plays lowest remaining. get out of my leage. focking negative nancy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted December 5, 2017 You forgot one! Oh yeah, your idea sucks too. Just not as bad as the others. You want to make it more of a super flex league which takes less stratergy and roster management, in my opinion. Having bye week or injury issues? Less incentive to trade or work the waiver if yiu can just plug in any other position. 4 RBs? Good lord. I know it's a thun position but it could keep an owner from having to, you know, manage their squad with any effort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted December 5, 2017 get out of my leage. focking negative nancy Honestly not meant to be negative, meant to be helpful and keep you from adding rules that hurt the league and increase turnover. 5 new owners in the last 2 years? My tone is just my whiner moniker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted December 5, 2017 Honestly not meant to be negative, meant to be helpful and keep you from adding rules that hurt the league and increase turnover. 5 new owners in the last 2 years? My tone is just my whiner moniker Holy cow that is a lot of turnover, I am in 2 long running dynasties and then i took over a rebuild last year and now this rebuild this year. The one dynasty team i am in lost 1 owner in the last 5 years(and maybe 3-4 total in 12 years) and my dad has been on a waiting list to get in for the last 3 years, the other league has lost 3 owners in the last 7 years (and maybe 4-5 since it was formed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted December 5, 2017 Holy cow that is a lot of turnover, I am in 2 long running dynasties and then i took over a rebuild last year and now this rebuild this year. The one dynasty team i am in lost 1 owner in the last 5 years and my dad has been on a waiting list to get in for the last 3 years, the other league has lost 3 owners in the last 7 years. I could be mistaken but since I joined we had Frozen (dixoffs) join and now leave. Raider Haters, Bier and yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 If I'm correct, the only original members left are myself, ed, cb, traine and kunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted December 5, 2017 If I'm correct, the only original members left are myself, ed, cb, traine and kunt. The Narc was an original, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 The Narc was an original, no? Don't think so. Think he replaced yostevo? Or maybe that was SUX/Gypsy? Don't remember who the BATTLING COCKELBURRS were. ~stick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 yostevo BATTLING COCKELBURRS (stick?) IAMWOOD kunts myself BLS Vanderlay Industries (usurpers26) Traine you ed gary The Dirty Mexican Rats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted December 5, 2017 I think ~stick was the first to quit.....so maybe that's when the Narc took over. Our league didn't really settle into normalcy until the 2012 season, so everything prior to that was like the wild west. Lawless and hard to trace via modern records. I remember past owners during that era as having names like ~stick, titans and bears, BLS, Yostevo, Iamwood, etc...but odds are nobody knows for sure what really happened back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 Was TBBOM is the league? I don't even remember that. Haha. Either way. I think this is the strongest group we've had since inception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 Was TBBOM is the league? I don't even remember that. Haha. Either way. I think this is the strongest group we've had since inception. Was he? there was a period from 2011 through 2016 I barely paid any attention my team was so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 The Narc was an original, no? Yes I'm OG. I was the Cockalburrs. Me and kunt been in there the whole time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 Yes I'm OG. I was the Cockalburrs Rhymes with Puny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 Titans was never in our league fockers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 5, 2017 Yes I'm OG. So I guess ~stick was the DIRTY MEXICAN RATS (which is fitting given his political views/career) yostevo mmmm...beer IAMWOOD kunts myself BLS Vanderlay Industries (usurpers26) Traine cbfalcon ed gocolts The Dirty Mexican Rats (~stick) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted December 5, 2017 Titans was never in our league fockers. You sure? How else would I have ever even heard of him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 You sure? How else would I have ever even heard of him? he was a pretty solid member of the closet. didn't he also type up that big long post about why fft sucked and the closet was better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted December 5, 2017 he was a pretty solid member of the closet. didn't he also type up that big long post about why fft sucked and the closet was better? Rings bells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 Rings bells. I believe it was called the constitution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted December 5, 2017 I like doubleheaders all the time, it gives 2 games against all non division and 3 games against division Week 1 you play a single game = 25 game schedule also a balanced schedule where you play your division during non-bye weeks I think is good too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 5, 2017 I like doubleheaders all the time, it gives 2 games against all non division and 3 games against division Week 1 you play a single game = 25 game schedule also a balanced schedule where you play your division during non-bye weeks I think is good too should be no schedule at all 12 teams Points based system. Schedules are and will always be unfair and luck based. highest scoring team 13 pts 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 I'd have finished around 3rd or 4th, not 1st Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted December 5, 2017 Alright fock it! No rule changes except the new quitters rule! You fockers are going off rail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites