FenixTx972 2 Posted November 11, 2008 what happened to him this weekend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston Three Party 6 Posted November 11, 2008 He played Baltimore. Nuff said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doobious 0 Posted November 11, 2008 They made the mistake of not going with him enough. He had a 58 yd TD called back for a holding penalty on Owen Daniels. They also did a play action pass with Slaton on or about the 5 yard line that ended up being a INT. I guarantee that don't make the mistake of not utilizing Slaton more next week against Indy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 11, 2008 Rotonews just had a blurb about him being "worn-down" and whatever. Looks like the Texans will be using the 3-headed attack from here on out with Ryan Moats getting in the mix. Too bad. He has been the steal of the draft but now looks to be falling in value very quickly. He will no longer start for me. Oh well, glad I got 5-6 good games out of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holamolla 0 Posted November 11, 2008 Rotonews just had a blurb about him being "worn-down" and whatever. Looks like the Texans will be using the 3-headed attack from here on out with Ryan Moats getting in the mix. Too bad. He has been the steal of the draft but now looks to be falling in value very quickly. He will no longer start for me. Oh well, glad I got 5-6 good games out of him. From Rotoworld: Texans coach Gary Kubiak said Steve Slaton was given fewer carries in Week 10 because the running back was "worn down." "I would hope that him not playing as many reps this week gets him back to full speed, but the kid needed a break," Kubiak said. "He’s played a lot of football in a short period of time. I expect him to bounce right back." Slaton may share more carries with Ahman Green and Ryan Moats as he becomes accustomed to the grind of the NFL season. yea because rotoworld is totally speculating it might happen it must be true have you watched green and moats play? they are terrible.... slaton should be fine against indy, although they are playing better now with sanders back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 11, 2008 yea because rotoworld is totally speculating it might happen it must be true have you watched green and moats play? they are terrible.... slaton should be fine against indy, although they are playing better now with sanders back. Dude - It came from Gary Kubiaks mouth and also: I saw some of the game and there was a THREE WAY SPLIT with the carries. This is fact. They activated Moats from the practice squad for the very reason of adding another RB to the mix and to lessen Slatons workload. Go ahead, start him all you want, I dont give a crap. Enjoy your 8 carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted November 11, 2008 Dude - It came from Gary Kubiaks mouth and also: I saw some of the game and there was a THREE WAY SPLIT with the carries. This is fact. They activated Moats from the practice squad for the very reason of adding another RB to the mix and to lessen Slatons workload. Go ahead, start him all you want, I dont give a crap. Enjoy your 8 carries. Yeah - you should really just go ahead an drop him!! Hell drop Steve Smith and Chris Johnson too.. They also had off weeks an that 'l teach em. Slaton has been a stud all season - He played Baltimore - NOONE excels against Baltimore. Moats got carries at the very end of the game when it was a blow out. From here on out it will be a Slaton / Green - RBBC with Slaton getting 60% - Just like most of the season. Moats won't see the field unless the game is out of hand either way.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 11, 2008 Yeah - you should really just go ahead an drop him!! Hell drop Steve Smith and Chris Johnson too.. They also had off weeks an that 'l teach em. Slaton has been a stud all season - He played Baltimore - NOONE excels against Baltimore. Moats got carries at the very end of the game when it was a blow out. From here on out it will be a Slaton / Green - RBBC with Slaton getting 60% - Just like most of the season. Moats won't see the field unless the game is out of hand either way.. Moz - I didnt say to drop the guy.... I just said that regardless of opponent, Slaton lost carries to not one but TWO other backs. Go ahead and spin it anyway you want. The point is that as long as Green and Moats are there, he becomes a shaky RB2 play instead of a solid RB1 play. Period. Like I said: Do as ya'll wish. There are better options for me and some other Slaton owners, thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted November 11, 2008 I guess if you have 3 other top 10 RB choices you would be right. Most people in 12 team leagues or even 10 teamers don't have that option. Slaton is a top 12 RB option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted November 11, 2008 Dude - It came from Gary Kubiaks mouth and also: I saw some of the game and there was a THREE WAY SPLIT with the carries. This is fact. They activated Moats from the practice squad for the very reason of adding another RB to the mix and to lessen Slatons workload. Go ahead, start him all you want, I dont give a crap. Enjoy your 8 carries. Yes Kubiak said he was worn down and that led to the lessened workload. He also says he expects him to bounce back. Sounds like Slaton hit the rookie wall following a heavy workload last week against the punishing Vikes D with Green out. When Green has been healthy it's been about an even split with Slaton anyways. I think you're overestimating Moats' chances at getting the ball a lot. 5 of his carries came at the end of the game when they were just trying to end the blowout. Slaton will still be getting 15-20 touches a game, although this week might be a little light again depending on how he feels. But he is easily the best RB they have. He is kinda small and looks like he can't take a full workload (atleast right now) but still think he'll have plenty of value going forward. Kubiak would be smart to limit him a bit in practice Wed, Thurs going forward to help him recover some too. Rookies usually hit the wall for a few games but doesn't mean they won't get it back together after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 11, 2008 I guess if you have 3 other top 10 RB choices you would be right. Most people in 12 team leagues or even 10 teamers don't have that option. Slaton is a top 12 RB option Well, I was lucky enough to get some other decent options at RB so I might be OK. Everyones situation will be different. Slaton is NOT a bad player or even a bad fantasy player. My point was that you must worry a bit when they activate Moats from the practice squad because Slaton was getting "beat up". Thats cause for concern, IMO. Sure, hes better than several other RBs...but that doesnt mean you can expect games like he had against the Colts last time when he went off for 2 scores and like 80 yards on 20+ carries. The production will be cut down with Green and Moats in the mix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted November 11, 2008 I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a trade for Slaton. Is now the week to buy him? I was going to offer Cutler since I've already got Brees. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joefry 0 Posted November 11, 2008 I am also looking to unload Cutler...I have Warner, my two targets are LT and tbrook as both owners are desperate for qb help. I probably would do Cutler for Slaton though. There is really nothing to lose at this point, unless you are a playoff lock. If you are a playoff lock, I would keep Cutler for insurance, otherwise you have to let it ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cstriker 2 Posted November 12, 2008 Cutler could fetch you a westbrook or an addai if they are healthy. Why settle for slaton? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted November 12, 2008 Cutler could fetch you a westbrook or an addai if they are healthy. Why settle for slaton? Not necessarily. Some teams are set at QB and won't trade their best RB. Also, in case you haven't been paying attention, Slaton has been a helluva lot better than Addai this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 132 Posted November 12, 2008 Moats??? IMO Moats is there as a last resort like this past weekends blow out or if Slaton or Green (mostly Green) goes down. I would not expect much from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullog 12 Posted November 12, 2008 I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a trade for Slaton. Is now the week to buy him? I was going to offer Cutler since I've already got Brees. Thoughts? I am looking to sell Slaton this week (in a PPR league) and I would take Cutler for him...it is a good deal for you since you have Brees. Who else do you think I could expect in return since I happen to already own Jay? I am okay at RB (start 2: Gore, Jacobs, Slaton, D.Ward) and weak at TE so someone offered Earnest Graham and Scaife for Slaton and Carlson...I don't think that is nearly good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Cutler could fetch you a westbrook or an addai if they are healthy. Why settle for slaton? You can't use Addai and Westbrook interchangably. They're on completely different levels, and Cutler wouldn't get you Westbrook in any league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted November 12, 2008 I traded FWP for Slaton this past Sunday, I'm sick of FWP and the person I traded him to had Moore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted November 12, 2008 Two words: Rookie wall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 426 Posted November 12, 2008 Not necessarily. Some teams are set at QB and won't trade their best RB. Also, in case you haven't been paying attention, Slaton has been a helluva lot better than Addai this year. Cutler's value isn't as high as a Westbrook per se, but he could get you more than Slaton, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted November 12, 2008 Cutler's value isn't as high as a Westbrook per se, but he could get you more than Slaton, I think. Well, since I've already made the deal it's too late but... It's not as easy to just say "X" player is worth "X" player. Could I have done better? Probably but that's not really looking at the league as a whole. People make trades based on need and depth. I'm weak at RB and was deep at QB. I've had 2 days to make any deal, thus not giving me a ton of leverage. Plus add the dynamic that I'm also competing with many of these teams for playoff position, I'm not trying to make these teams better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joefry 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Cutler for Westbrook was denied. I'm going to try for Slaton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holamolla 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Moz - I didnt say to drop the guy.... I just said that regardless of opponent, Slaton lost carries to not one but TWO other backs. Go ahead and spin it anyway you want. The point is that as long as Green and Moats are there, he becomes a shaky RB2 play instead of a solid RB1 play. Period. Like I said: Do as ya'll wish. There are better options for me and some other Slaton owners, thats all. you obviously didn't watch the game, moats got carries when the game was way out of hand to give slaton a break and to keep green from getting hurt for the 10th time this year. Green had a whole 4 carries in the game, slaton had 4 and moats had 7 in garbage time, the only one spinning here is you. pretty much every game green and slaton have split carries slaton still got it done, nothing has changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted November 12, 2008 I predict Moats wont even see the field and Slaton will have a nice day vs Colts. JMO. I expect 80-120 total yards at least one TD. I am starting him with confidence. And sitting Barber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey71 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Would you guys give up Santana Moss for him? I'm having RB troubles..and I already have Boldin, Wayne, Avery and Mush for WR's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAL321 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Would you guys give up Santana Moss for him? I'm having RB troubles..and I already have Boldin, Wayne, Avery and Mush for WR's. I've got almost the same dilema . My starting three WRs would be Wayne , Marshall and Moss......He wants Wayne and I get Slaton and DeSean Jackson . Given the same situation would you pull the trigger if it were Wayne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey71 0 Posted November 13, 2008 No. I'd keep Wayne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WON 0 Posted November 14, 2008 What do you all think of Slaton as a keeper?? I recently traded for him in my two player keeper league by giving up Thomas Jones and actually got some flack for making a "not so great" trade... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aportanenko 0 Posted November 15, 2008 What do you all think of Slaton as a keeper?? I recently traded for him in my two player keeper league by giving up Thomas Jones and actually got some flack for making a "not so great" trade... just gave up essentially a 8th rounder for slaton (1st round in a 7 keeper 12 team league). It's a PPR league, I'm concerned he's too small to be an every down back but couldn't pass up the value of that trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WON 0 Posted November 15, 2008 just gave up essentially a 8th rounder for slaton (1st round in a 7 keeper 12 team league). It's a PPR league, I'm concerned he's too small to be an every down back but couldn't pass up the value of that trade. Yeah, he doesn't have the look of an every down back but Kubiak has not hesitated to give him the rock on the goal line and he is heavily involved in all passing situations...moreover, he has been a decent play in ppr leagues even when the matchup is tough (excluding the Ravens game of course)... They said the same things about Westbrook, i.e. he's too small, just a third down or "change of pace" back, etc...but then Reid realized Westbrook was by far his best player at the position....I believe this has/will happen in Houston and he will get even more of the workload going forward...what's even more positive to me is that he has not gotten the nicks and bruises that Westbrook always seemed to get....hitting the rookie wall is different then not being durable in my opinion.... Anyway, I guess we'll see what happens in the offseason in terms of them getting another back to complement him....that will ultimately determine his value going forward... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted November 15, 2008 Rookie running back Steve Slaton "has his legs back" coach Gary Kubiak said, and figures to contribute significantly more against the Colts than he did against the Ravens, when he carried only four times for 7 yards.Kubiak blamed it on "hitting the rookie wall." LINK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted November 15, 2008 Good News. But, Bob Sanders is back for the colts though. They are no longer the team that lets up huge #'s rushing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted November 15, 2008 When rookies hit the rookie wall, they don't usually get back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holamolla 0 Posted November 17, 2008 still a stud guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted November 17, 2008 Moz - I didnt say to drop the guy.... I just said that regardless of opponent, Slaton lost carries to not one but TWO other backs. Go ahead and spin it anyway you want. The point is that as long as Green and Moats are there, he becomes a shaky RB2 play instead of a solid RB1 play. Period. Like I said: Do as ya'll wish. There are better options for me and some other Slaton owners, thats all. Dude - this kid has all world skills - granted he is hurt by Ahman beign there but damn I would be hard pressed to think of a better #2 RB right now to have. Slaton has really helpe dme with Sjax going down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted November 17, 2008 Ahman Green vulturing those 2 TD's sucked hardcore, cost me the win. I only needed 1 of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted November 17, 2008 Ahman Green vulturing those 2 TD's sucked hardcore, cost me the win. I only needed 1 of them. Thing is he really didn't vulture them. Slaton on both occasions had run like 4-5 times straight and was outta breath. Houston doesn't pull Slaton typically at the GL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carmo911 2 Posted November 17, 2008 still a stud guys Would you trade him for Housh or TO? Another owner wants him bad... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dolphin-g 0 Posted November 17, 2008 Ahman Green vulturing those 2 TD's sucked hardcore, cost me the win. I only needed 1 of them. Slaton ran the ball twice from the 3 yard line with no luck. then green got his chance on 3rd down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
