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Great career. Very nice guy, except for the "stabbed me in the back" stuff. It was time for him to go.

 

I'm convinced Seattle is going to grab a RB in the first 3 rounds this week.

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Great career. Very nice guy, except for the "stabbed me in the back" stuff. It was time for him to go.

 

I'm convinced Seattle is going to grab a RB in the first 3 rounds this week.

Morris could very well be the next guy to go also.

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Hard to look past these career numbers no matter how he looked racking them up. I see it this way, Shaun's greatest attribute is his vision, and his ability to react and use his blocking. One of the best ever at this. He was basically a 225 pound scat back who could never break a tackle, but sure could get the most out of a well blocked play.

 

Seattle no longer has the line play to set up openings that would allow Shaun to utilize his best (only) asset. They are now in need of a more traditional NFL RB who can make something out of nothing, and create on his own extra yardage.

 

Not sure if Jules Jones is that guy though. In my opinion he is a smaller, faster version of Alexander himself, minus the tremendous vision.

 

Nice analysis... :pointstosky: I think your right on the money... MB

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Morris could very well be the next guy to go also.

 

I've never really been much of a Morris fan. Cut him or not, meh, whatever.

 

I'm still scratching my head over not giving Jesse Lumsden more of an opportunity a couple of years ago. Last year in the CFL, in between injuries, he averaged 9 yards a carry. NINE. The guy is a flat out RB stud. Reminds me of a poor man's Barry Sanders. Seriously.

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I've never really been much of a Morris fan. Cut him or not, meh, whatever.

 

I'm still scratching my head over not giving Jesse Lumsden more of an opportunity a couple of years ago. Last year in the CFL, in between injuries, he averaged 9 yards a carry. NINE. The guy is a flat out RB stud. Reminds me of a poor man's Barry Sanders. Seriously.

 

I was pimping him on this very board. Disappointed when we let him go. However he hasn't impressed in Washington either. And I'm not even sure if he's on a roster at all now. I think I might have just fallen in love with his youtube videos to be honest with you.

 

Morris-- I'm with you on this one. Take'm or leave'm. I just think he's gone because he's Holmgren' s backup, and not Morra's.

 

*I still think we draft a back in the first 3 rounds also. (I hope Stewart falls :pointstosky: :wub: )

 

I believe we keep 4 backs on the roster this year:

HB:

Jones

Rookie

 

FB:

Weaver

 

Tweener doing both HB/FB roles in Duckett.

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I was pimping him on this very board. Disappointed when we let him go. However he hasn't impressed in Washington either. And I'm not even sure if he's on a roster at all now. I think I might have just fallen in love with his youtube videos to be honest with you.

 

Morris-- I'm with you on this one. Take'm or leave'm. I just think he's gone because he's Holmgren' s backup, and not Morra's.

 

*I still think we draft a back in the first 3 rounds also. (I hope Stewart falls :pointstosky: :wub: )

 

I believe we keep 4 backs on the roster this year:

HB:

Jones

Rookie

 

FB:

Weaver

 

Tweener doing both HB/FB roles in Duckett.

 

I remember you talking about Lumsden. I think that is when I first became aware of him. I watch CFL games all the time, as I actually enjoy betting on that sport. Lumsden joined the worst team in the league, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, part way through the season. He instantly made the team credible, and they actually became a competitive team. He was an incredible difference maker. I wonder what it is that prevents him from making an NFL roster. There have been players that have transitioned between the NFL and CFL. Anyway...

 

I'm not sure if Stewart is all that much better than the next tier of RBs, just below the 1st round tier. Deep RB draft this year.

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I'm not sure if Stewart is all that much better than the next tier of RBs, just below the 1st round tier. Deep RB draft this year.

Don't think Stewart will be there at 25 anyway, but I agree with you in terms of talent that the Hawks might be able to get a solid RB in the next tier. I might be partial because this guy played here in CF, but I would love to see Ruskell take Kevin Smith of UCF. Heck when the Wildman sees a little Marcus Allen in the guy, that's good enough for me! :pointstosky:

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Also, don't forget that the reason this year's draft is so deep at RB is because of all the top juniors who came out. If it was just seniors, the overall RB class would be pretty meh. So if you don't address RB this year, unless there's a ton of precocious sophomores heading into their JR seasons who also choose to come out, next year's RB class is going to be thin.

 

I say the Hawks do the following:

 

Round 1: I would like them to trade down with the Falcons. The #25 pick is not good value for what is likely to be available at DT or DE, and certainly not TE. But it would be very good value to draft a QB not named Matt Ryan. If the Falcons don't take Ryan at #3, I see them working out a deal with Seattle where Seattle gives up #25 and #55 in exchange for #34 and #37 overall. It's almost exactly fair value per the draft value chart. Atlanta gets Brohm when he probably would not still be on the board at #34. And Seattle gets two high-quality picks.

 

Obviously if Atlanta goes for Ryan at #3, this whole thing is out the window, and I would think the Hawks go for either Balmer (DT) or Merling (DE). Although I've heard that Balmer is not really a high-motor guy which doesn't sound like a Ruskell-type player.

 

Hopefully, some sort of trade like this does go through, in which case I'm guessing they take:

 

Pick 2.34: Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame

Pick 2.37: Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue

 

This leaves RB for round 3.

Round 3: Either Kevin Smith, if he lasts that long (not sure where he's slotted), or Ray Rice (ditto), or Xavier Omon.

 

Thoughts?

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Certainly SA's best days are behind him. I find the outright "cut" to be interesting.

 

I think they might just be doing the right thing here in that they want to give him time to latch on with another team. They certainly could keep him around and not play him etc, but instead they are letting him get out early enough to perhaps make it on another team by ensuring he is known to be available before the draft.

 

Seems like a fair move by the organization. :thumbsup:

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Hard to look past these career numbers no matter how he looked racking them up. I see it this way, Shaun's greatest attribute is his vision, and his ability to react and use his blocking. One of the best ever at this. He was basically a 225 pound scat back who could never break a tackle, but sure could get the most out of a well blocked play.

 

Seattle no longer has the line play to set up openings that would allow Shaun to utilize his best (only) asset. They are now in need of a more traditional NFL RB who can make something out of nothing, and create on his own extra yardage.

 

Not sure if Jules Jones is that guy though. In my opinion he is a smaller, faster version of Alexander himself, minus the tremendous vision.

 

Dang, you've been here nearly 6 yrs, have only 80 posts, and throw out a gem like that. Nicely done. :thumbsup: I guess I should backtrack a bit, Shaun wasn't a bad back, obviously he's had an excellent career. But the guy will probably never shed the soft lable, despite his accomplishments. And it was crystal clear to everybody outside of Seattle that what little fire he ran with died before the ink on that fat contract of his even dried up.

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Dang, you've been here nearly 6 yrs, have only 80 posts, and throw out a gem like that. Nicely done. :cheers: I guess I should backtrack a bit, Shaun wasn't a bad back, obviously he's had an excellent career. But the guy will probably never shed the soft lable, despite his accomplishments. And it was crystal clear to everybody outside of Seattle that what little fire he ran with died before the ink on that fat contract of his even dried up.

 

 

Valid.....

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Also, don't forget that the reason this year's draft is so deep at RB is because of all the top juniors who came out. If it was just seniors, the overall RB class would be pretty meh. So if you don't address RB this year, unless there's a ton of precocious sophomores heading into their JR seasons who also choose to come out, next year's RB class is going to be thin.

 

I say the Hawks do the following:

 

Round 1: I would like them to trade down with the Falcons. The #25 pick is not good value for what is likely to be available at DT or DE, and certainly not TE. But it would be very good value to draft a QB not named Matt Ryan. If the Falcons don't take Ryan at #3, I see them working out a deal with Seattle where Seattle gives up #25 and #55 in exchange for #34 and #37 overall. It's almost exactly fair value per the draft value chart. Atlanta gets Brohm when he probably would not still be on the board at #34. And Seattle gets two high-quality picks.

 

Obviously if Atlanta goes for Ryan at #3, this whole thing is out the window, and I would think the Hawks go for either Balmer (DT) or Merling (DE). Although I've heard that Balmer is not really a high-motor guy which doesn't sound like a Ruskell-type player.

 

Hopefully, some sort of trade like this does go through, in which case I'm guessing they take:

 

Pick 2.34: Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame

Pick 2.37: Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue

 

This leaves RB for round 3.

Round 3: Either Kevin Smith, if he lasts that long (not sure where he's slotted), or Ray Rice (ditto), or Xavier Omon.

 

Thoughts?

 

I'd be very happy with this scenario. I like Laws alot and actually have him listed as my #3 DT moving ahead of Balmer, for the very reason you mentioned.

I'm huge on Keller because of his potential recieving the ball. We don't really need the total package TE. We have that in Heller and the kids (Newton and Alcorn). I want an athletic freak to throw up some serious offensive numbers, which I think Keller fits the mold. We need the TE position to help the WR position this year until

A: Branch gets healthy

B: the kids (Obamanu(who I still have my reservations for) and Taylor and Payne (who I both love) can become a factor.

 

And all 3 backs you mentioned I love. So I hope your some sort of swami.

:cheers:

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I'd be very happy with this scenario. I like Laws alot and actually have him listed as my #3 DT moving ahead of Balmer, for the very reason you mentioned.

I'm huge on Keller because of his potential recieving the ball. We don't really need the total package TE. We have that in Heller and the kids (Newton and Alcorn). I want an athletic freak to throw up some serious offensive numbers, which I think Keller fits the mold. We need the TE position to help the WR position this year until

A: Branch gets healthy

B: the kids (Obamanu(who I still have my reservations for) and Taylor and Payne (who I both love) can become a factor.

 

And all 3 backs you mentioned I love. So I hope your some sort of swami.

:music_guitarred:

 

I love Smith, Rice and Omon because all three of them have the ability to catch out of the backfield, which is something SA rarely did or did well. How much of an edge is it to a defense knowing that just on the basis of who is in the game, you have a good idea what the RB might be up to? In 2005, it didn't matter if everyone knew what the Hawks were going to do, because few teams could stop them.

 

I do like Obomanu, and I like Taylor a little more than Payne, but I think all three could make solid contributions this year.

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Dear Seahawks,

 

Good luck with Julius Jones, MMo, and TJ Duckett and without Shaun Alexander. Because Luck is what you're going to need with that group.

 

And good luck to America's team, hopefully you guys wont completely implode, being a full year removed from Parcells dragging your sad asses out of the abyss of 6-10 football. Jerry Jones is bringing in some high character players that should definitely put you over the top, so that should help. Good ol' Jerry, what an amazing football mind! And I'm still giving you guys moral credit for a playoff win this season, way to go fellas! :music_guitarred:

 

Back on topic, Alexander was a good guy. He made the best of his first big chance, that nationally televised game on ESPN against the Raiders, replacing an injured Ricky Watters he ran for over 200 yards. I remember being very excited. And from a statistical standpoint he Had probably the 2nd best year a running back has ever had in this league in 2005.

 

The sad reality is that he never played up to his full potential. For all the numbers he put up, watching him run you always had the feeling he could be doing better. Hell, he even admitted he ran soft, Saying his dad and his brother (or whoever) taught him how to fall and prevent injury. He never looked like a star when he didn't have a gaping hole in front of him. He owes a lot to Walter and Hutch.

 

He was running hard when he came back last year, he just doesnt seem to have it anymore. If he was to have any success on another team it would have to be in a RBBC situation.

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And good luck to America's team, hopefully you guys wont completely implode, being a full year removed from Parcells dragging your sad asses out of the abyss of 6-10 football. Jerry Jones is bringing in some high character players that should definitely put you over the top, so that should help. Good ol' Jerry, what an amazing football mind! And I'm still giving you guys moral credit for a playoff win this season, way to go fellas! :music_guitarred:

 

Back on topic, Alexander was a good guy. He made the best of his first big chance, that nationally televised game on ESPN against the Raiders, replacing an injured Ricky Watters he ran for over 200 yards. I remember being very excited. And from a statistical standpoint he Had probably the 2nd best year a running back has ever had in this league in 2005.

 

The sad reality is that he never played up to his full potential. For all the numbers he put up, watching him run you always had the feeling he could be doing better. Hell, he even admitted he ran soft, Saying his dad and his brother (or whoever) taught him how to fall and prevent injury. He never looked like a star when he didn't have a gaping hole in front of him. He owes a lot to Walter and Hutch.

 

He was running hard when he came back last year, he just doesnt seem to have it anymore. If he was to have any success on another team it would have to be in a RBBC situation.

 

Nicely put Joey. At least one of the Seattle homers seems to be well grounded.

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The sad reality is that he never played up to his full potential. For all the numbers he put up, watching him run you always had the feeling he could be doing better. Hell, he even admitted he ran soft, Saying his dad and his brother (or whoever) taught him how to fall and prevent injury. He never looked like a star when he didn't have a gaping hole in front of him. He owes a lot to Walter and Hutch.

And what was his potential that he didn't live up to? I don't understand how your "feeling" that he could do better translates into SA being soft or not reaching his full potential? I mean I look at Eli Manning and I always have the "feeling" he could be a better QB, but is just having a feeling about someone valid evidence? NO! Valid eveidence is the actual #s the guy put up and right now SA's #s are borderline HOF.

 

Only eight running backs have 100 career rushing touchdowns in NFL history. Five are in the Hall of Fame. Emmitt Smith (164) and Marshall Faulk (100) are not yet eligible. Both cracked 10,000 yards and both will surely be inducted. The third not in is Alexander.

 

This all means that right now Alexander is one of three running backs with both 10,000 yards and 100 rushing touchdowns not in the Hall of Fame and the other two are locks to get in.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2008/04/ale...n_the_hall.html

 

I think SA had a marvelous career, despite the "soft" tag, which is basically thrown around by people who have the same "feelings" as you. Not a criticism of you, just an unfair tag IMO. SA is a borderline HOF player with stats that put him in direct comparison with many of the all-time greats. You don't get to that level and you sure enough don't get those stats being "soft".

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And what was his potential that he didn't live up to? I don't understand how your "feeling" that he could do better translates into SA being soft or not reaching his full potential? I mean I look at Eli Manning and I always have the "feeling" he could be a better QB, but is just having a feeling about someone valid evidence? NO! Valid eveidence is the actual #s the guy put up and right now SA's #s are borderline HOF.

 

Only eight running backs have 100 career rushing touchdowns in NFL history. Five are in the Hall of Fame. Emmitt Smith (164) and Marshall Faulk (100) are not yet eligible. Both cracked 10,000 yards and both will surely be inducted. The third not in is Alexander.

 

This all means that right now Alexander is one of three running backs with both 10,000 yards and 100 rushing touchdowns not in the Hall of Fame and the other two are locks to get in.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2008/04/ale...n_the_hall.html

 

I think SA had a marvelous career, despite the "soft" tag, which is basically thrown around by people who have the same "feelings" as you. Not a criticism of you, just an unfair tag IMO. SA is a borderline HOF player with stats that put him in direct comparison with many of the all-time greats. You don't get to that level and you sure enough don't get those stats being "soft".

 

You answered your own question. Look at how loaded his stats are, then watch his highlights. He had a LOT of talent, and ran behind a great line with lots of talent on an offense with a very good, smart QB.

 

He snuck and danced around behind the line of scrimmage, always looking for the home run. The only time he broke tackles was in the open field. He did avoid injury for a long time so maybe it was beneficial to his career.

 

I can never bash his numbers, he was money in the bank for 1,200+ yards rushing and 15+ TD's every year. He was our biggest, most visible star during our most successful period as a franchise.

 

It really annoyed me that he never seemed to be interested in getting involved in the receiving game, which is crazy for a star running back in a West Coast Offense. It was quite a love/hate relationship for me with Alexander. There were games where I wanted to hug him and kill him several times, sometimes within minutes of each other. I guess it's a credit to how much talent he had that he put up such big numbers while never fully giving 100%.

 

Still, despite what I thought of him, I will never knock a fellow Hawks fan for having a higher opinion of him then me. He's a good guy who'll end his career after this upcoming season with his health and a fat bank account. No small accomplishment by any means.

 

Sorry about the rambling response, but Alexander has always drawn a lot of conflicting emotions out of me.

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This is funny. Almost every Seahag fan hates Shaun A and are rejoicing his release. Obviously you do not listen to the boos in the stadium....I live in the NW; I have seen a lot of hate for SA the last 2 years ... keep spinning though :first:

 

 

over 100 yards and 2 tds AT chicago with a cracked foot...you arent too smart, are you? this exposed the bears and they havent been the same since...

 

no one cares about the fans who hate...seattle is #1 in suicides..they are still p1ssed that cobain killed himself...

 

seattle messed this up by not signing hutch..no matter what the price would be...they shouldve signed himand appealed the poison pill to the league offices to stop it..instead, they responded by signing burleson..

 

if alexander goes to a team like cle..minny..gb..he will look like the SA of old...

 

if he doesnt..he will still be better than cedric benson...

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You answered your own question. Look at how loaded his stats are, then watch his highlights. He had a LOT of talent, and ran behind a great line with lots of talent on an offense with a very good, smart QB.

 

He snuck and danced around behind the line of scrimmage, always looking for the home run. The only time he broke tackles was in the open field. He did avoid injury for a long time so maybe it was beneficial to his career.

 

I can never bash his numbers, he was money in the bank for 1,200+ yards rushing and 15+ TD's every year. He was our biggest, most visible star during our most successful period as a franchise.

 

It really annoyed me that he never seemed to be interested in getting involved in the receiving game, which is crazy for a star running back in a West Coast Offense. It was quite a love/hate relationship for me with Alexander. There were games where I wanted to hug him and kill him several times, sometimes within minutes of each other. I guess it's a credit to how much talent he had that he put up such big numbers while never fully giving 100%.

 

Still, despite what I thought of him, I will never knock a fellow Hawks fan for having a higher opinion of him then me. He's a good guy who'll end his career after this upcoming season with his health and a fat bank account. No small accomplishment by any means.

 

Sorry about the rambling response, but Alexander has always drawn a lot of conflicting emotions out of me.

 

this response was longer than any of his carries last year :lol:

 

seriously though..i was more bent when they let curt warner go to plan b free agency..my all time fave player...

 

i said even at the time of the record...sign hutch...KEEP hutch...if they lost SA..u could bring in dillon...or ANYONE with that line..i dont care WHO u are at RB..u cant run behind a bad line and its no coincedence that with no more hutch, walter jones is now aging quickly and getting hurt...

 

 

u can get another sa..but u cant just scoop up another hutch...walter jones..joe thomas etc...

replacing sa with rbs isnt going to matter much...they killed the best left side of the line in the game...

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Also, don't forget that the reason this year's draft is so deep at RB is because of all the top juniors who came out. If it was just seniors, the overall RB class would be pretty meh. So if you don't address RB this year, unless there's a ton of precocious sophomores heading into their JR seasons who also choose to come out, next year's RB class is going to be thin.

 

I say the Hawks do the following:

 

Round 1: I would like them to trade down with the Falcons. The #25 pick is not good value for what is likely to be available at DT or DE, and certainly not TE. But it would be very good value to draft a QB not named Matt Ryan. If the Falcons don't take Ryan at #3, I see them working out a deal with Seattle where Seattle gives up #25 and #55 in exchange for #34 and #37 overall. It's almost exactly fair value per the draft value chart. Atlanta gets Brohm when he probably would not still be on the board at #34. And Seattle gets two high-quality picks.

 

Obviously if Atlanta goes for Ryan at #3, this whole thing is out the window, and I would think the Hawks go for either Balmer (DT) or Merling (DE). Although I've heard that Balmer is not really a high-motor guy which doesn't sound like a Ruskell-type player.

 

Hopefully, some sort of trade like this does go through, in which case I'm guessing they take:

 

Pick 2.34: Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame

Pick 2.37: Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue

 

This leaves RB for round 3.

Round 3: Either Kevin Smith, if he lasts that long (not sure where he's slotted), or Ray Rice (ditto), or Xavier Omon.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Its as if I wrote this myself. This dead on exactly what the Seahawks should do. Nice job.

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this response was longer than any of his carries last year :unsure:

 

seriously though..i was more bent when they let curt warner go to plan b free agency..my all time fave player...

 

i said even at the time of the record...sign hutch...KEEP hutch...if they lost SA..u could bring in dillon...or ANYONE with that line..i dont care WHO u are at RB..u cant run behind a bad line and its no coincedence that with no more hutch, walter jones is now aging quickly and getting hurt...

u can get another sa..but u cant just scoop up another hutch...walter jones..joe thomas etc...

replacing sa with rbs isnt going to matter much...they killed the best left side of the line in the game...

 

Yeah, it killed me watching Hutch get away, I still dont understand (nor would I want too understand) why they didn't just franchise him. They were kind of bent over with the fanbase with resigning Alexander, so I understood that he had to get paid. I watched The Big Unit, Griffey and A-Rod all leave Seattle in a 4 year (I think) stretch, so you just learn to roll with it.

 

And as overrated as I thought Alexander was, he's still better then all of the Bear's running backs since Walter Payton combined...and then multiplied by 10.

 

If my team had started Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis and Cedric Benson in the last 10 years, I would keep my mouth shut. But hey, at least they offset it with outstanding QB's like Grossman, Kordell, Brian Griese and Cade McNown! Way to go guys!! :overhead:

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Still, despite what I thought of him, I will never knock a fellow Hawks fan for having a higher opinion of him then me. He's a good guy who'll end his career after this upcoming season with his health and a fat bank account. No small accomplishment by any means.

 

Sorry about the rambling response, but Alexander has always drawn a lot of conflicting emotions out of me.

I dont understand why so many people have the same conflicting emotions that you do, mostly negative surrounding. Again, not criticizing your feelings or opinion, I just have never been rubbed the wrong way by SA. His numbers show that when healthy, he produced. As a fan, I want the players to be good guys, not in trouble all the time, and I want them to produce. I thought SA was all of the above. But again just one man's opinion. :nono:

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u can get another sa..but u cant just scoop up another hutch...walter jones..joe thomas etc...

replacing sa with rbs isnt going to matter much...they killed the best left side of the line in the game...

This is the beauty of being a fan. I think the opposite. I think it is easier to get a guard than a RB with SA abilities.

 

Look at these RB numbers:

 

RU-333-1545-9

REC-41-323=2

Total-1868-11

 

Pretty good numbers, right? Well, those numbers belong to Chris Warren from 1994. He put thozse numbers up with a decent OL. (Ray Roberts, Jeff Blackshear, Howard Ballard, Ray Donaldson, Joe Tofflemire, Kevin Mawae, Bill Hitchcock). No one wants to rehash the Hutch thing again, but above average RB numbers can be had with the right RB and a decent line. I think its fair to say the guards on that team were hardly in Hutch's class yet Warren put up great #s. The probelm is not every RB has the ability of SA, a Ricky Watters, a Chris Warren, a Curt Warner. Guards are much easier to replace IMO; therefore, I thought Ruskell made the right choice in letting Hutch and another team set the market. Unfortunately, no one knew Hutch would stab the Hawks in the back.

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Well I'm not going to sit here trying to convince retards of anything. The life of a rb is not about being 'hard' or running over people. WHether he shied away from hits, went head on, this that blahblahblah.

Did I ever say a life of a running back is about being "hard" or running over people? No I really didn't..... I never said shiat else about Alexander or his stats he put up... never knocked anything but his running style... he's focking Soft, that's all I said... no need for calling me a retard for calling out what the guy really is... kind of makes you look like an idiot for jumping the gun here

 

As for Marvin, yeah he's soft.... is he one of the best Wr's ever ? no doubt!!! not sure of your point on that one ? there's a lot of soft fockers in the NFL, doesn't change the fact that a lot of them are good and have produced great stats over the years.... All I said was Shaun ran soft, I never said he wasn't a great stat producer...

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-- Shaun Alexander Completes Visit with Bengals --

Mon May 5, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com

 

ESPN's John Clayton reports free-agent RB Shaun Alexander's two-day meeting with Cincinnati allowed each side to get to know each other, and it could lead to a signing down the road. The Bengals appear to be pretty well set at running back with RB Rudi Johnson, RB Chris Perry and RB Kenny Watson but injuries happen. Perry has been hurt most of his pro career. By visiting with Alexander, Cincinnati knows he could be one call away if they need him. Alexander will go to New Orleans for a visit Wednesday. There is 50-50 chance of a visit to the Denver Broncos later in the week.

 

-- Broncos Eyeing Veteran RBs --

Mon May 5, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com

 

ESPN's John Clayton reports because they didn't draft RB Jonathan Stewart in the first round, the Denver Broncos are sniffing around some of the available veteran running backs. They are discussing the possibility of bringing in RB Shaun Alexander and RB Dominic Rhodes. RB Travis Henry heads into camp as the starter, but there is plenty of competition for the backup job.

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What about Tampa Bay, with Williams's status up in the air an all. I know they signed Dunn and have Graham, but SA might fit in nicely there. Maybe? :blink:

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Nooooooooooooooooo...dont go the broncos :sleep:

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Did I ever say a life of a running back is about being "hard" or running over people? No I really didn't..... I never said shiat else about Alexander or his stats he put up... never knocked anything but his running style... he's focking Soft, that's all I said... no need for calling me a retard for calling out what the guy really is... kind of makes you look like an idiot for jumping the gun here

 

As for Marvin, yeah he's soft.... is he one of the best Wr's ever ? no doubt!!! not sure of your point on that one ? there's a lot of soft fockers in the NFL, doesn't change the fact that a lot of them are good and have produced great stats over the years.... All I said was Shaun ran soft, I never said he wasn't a great stat producer...

Marvin soft? Go ask the guy he capped if Marvin is soft :doublethumbsup:

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Pretty good numbers, right? Well, those numbers belong to Chris Warren from 1994. He put thozse numbers up with a decent OL. (Ray Roberts, Jeff Blackshear, Howard Ballard, Ray Donaldson, Joe Tofflemire, Kevin Mawae, Bill Hitchcock). No one wants to rehash the Hutch thing again, but above average RB numbers can be had with the right RB and a decent line. I think its fair to say the guards on that team were hardly in Hutch's class yet Warren put up great #s. The probelm is not every RB has the ability of SA, a Ricky Watters, a Chris Warren, a Curt Warner. Guards are much easier to replace IMO; therefore, I thought Ruskell made the right choice in letting Hutch and another team set the market. Unfortunately, no one knew Hutch would stab the Hawks in the back.

 

totally disagree. you just named 5 RB's who have "ability"...and those are only the hawks starters over the past 25 years (meaning, there are many)

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